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Posted By: BlackCeli Increase low end torque - Apr 7, 2005 1:54pm
ok i didnt know what exactly to name the thread ... but what i wanted to ask was is it possible to increase the pull of the car at low rpms ?? especially while starting ... coz i found that the start is really really bad ... almost anycar is faster than mine (i've got an auto 00 GTS)

and in the thread about the CAI you guys are referring to CEL .. what does CEL mean ???
Posted By: celicagts05 Re: Increase low end torque - Apr 7, 2005 1:57pm
CEL means Check Engine Light
Posted By: GTSHYPR Re: Increase low end torque - Apr 7, 2005 4:25pm
I would say first off get a SRI(Short Ram Intake) They are better for low end torque and the CAI(Cool Air Intakes) are better for the high end torque.
Posted By: drivethru1986 Re: Increase low end torque - Apr 7, 2005 4:27pm
^^ dude i heard the injen SRI loses down low power...some 1 tell me the truth
Posted By: drivethru1986 Re: Increase low end torque - Apr 7, 2005 4:27pm
^^ dude i heard the injen SRI loses down low power...some 1 tell me the truth
Posted By: LightningRod Re: Increase low end torque - Apr 7, 2005 5:11pm
i thought it was the other way around? shortrams are good for high end (injen) and CAI's for low end (AEM). i can't remember where it is but there's a link somewhere in e-celica that compares the two intakes. injen showed significant loss of power low-end, but only outdid AEM by 1hp at high end. AEM produced more hp/torque throughout the entire rev range.

btw i have an AEM CAI and it's great grin
Posted By: Chelica815 Re: Increase low end torque - Apr 7, 2005 5:52pm
I think SRI is down low and CAI is higher RPM. But the TPR CAI does both low and high and that is why people are drooling all over it.
Posted By: SLVCELI Re: Increase low end torque - Apr 7, 2005 5:59pm
Do NOT get the short ram. You lose an incredible amount of power down low. I dont even suggest the aem (aem has better low end than injen) cold air intake because you will still lose a little low end. Especially when its hot out. The trd exhaust doesnt cause you to lose low end or you could also go with the tpr exhaust. If your wanting an intake, go with tpr. I hear it doesnt hurt your low end. Sorry but there is not much you can do to help. That why I got a supercharger but unless you have over 4000 bucks lying around thats out.
Posted By: Virgilson Re: Increase low end torque - Apr 7, 2005 6:30pm
[b] I've always hear that CAI is better for LowEnd...

there is a big difference between SRI and CAI ...you can say about 2 cars lengths.
Posted By: hombredelassrtas Re: Increase low end torque - Apr 7, 2005 9:33pm
yea i am sorry but SRI looses allot of low end. Ther is a dyno of RMM intake that i ahve. It lost 9 hp below liek 4000 and gained 9hp over stok over 4000. let me look for it thumbsup
Posted By: drivethru1986 Re: Increase low end torque - Apr 7, 2005 9:51pm
ya thats what i throught...so my first paycheck at my new job if i get it friday...(tpr intake, and gunna get my car checked out...its idleing at almost 2000 when not warmed up and making this weird ass sound...not a clue...but thats where $$ is going)
Posted By: BlackCeli Re: Increase low end torque - Apr 7, 2005 10:25pm
Originally Posted by drivethru1986
ya thats what i throught...so my first paycheck at my new job if i get it friday...(tpr intake, and gunna get my car checked out...its idleing at almost 2000 when not warmed up and making this weird ass sound...not a clue...but thats where $$ is going)

I think it is normal for it to idle at 2000 rpm when you just start the car ... it happens to me as well .. and it was the same even on my last car(rav4). And the sound, you get that sound coz ur idling at a higher than normal rpm.
Posted By: WhiteCeli Re: Increase low end torque - Apr 8, 2005 1:42am
Hey go with the aem intake. It seems to have a pretty good gain.

On another note I see you are from Dubai. UAE? United Arab Emerates? Well if so, in our economics class, we were doing the cost of big macs. We learned your guys country had the cheapest place to buy big macs from mcdonalds. It was something like 63 cents a big mac! Lucky tongue
Posted By: BlackCeli Re: Increase low end torque - Apr 8, 2005 10:23am
Originally Posted by WhiteCeli
Hey go with the aem intake. It seems to have a pretty good gain.

On another note I see you are from Dubai. UAE? United Arab Emerates? Well if so, in our economics class, we were doing the cost of big macs. We learned your guys country had the cheapest place to buy big macs from mcdonalds. It was something like 63 cents a big mac! Lucky tongue

haha ... well yea this place is really really weird ... in a good way though .. im telling you guys you should check this place out ... and yes this country is TAX FREE grin

and now after this whole discussion im even more confused on which one to get ... and the problem is i wont get any of these parts here ... whatever i need will have to be ordered from the US and i should be careful not to make a mistake..
Posted By: CelicaCrazy Re: Increase low end torque - Apr 9, 2005 3:27am
so if you have a 00 auto gt would the injen cai or the aem cai be the best?
Posted By: RyCeCuBe Re: Increase low end torque - Apr 9, 2005 4:21am
swap engines
Posted By: ghostingcelica Re: Increase low end torque - Apr 9, 2005 10:30am
supercharge
Posted By: barefoott4 Re: Increase low end torque - Apr 11, 2005 2:39am
Originally Posted by BlackCeli
ok i didnt know what exactly to name the thread ... but what i wanted to ask was is it possible to increase the pull of the car at low rpms ?? especially while starting ... coz i found that the start is really really bad ... almost anycar is faster than mine (i've got an auto 00 GTS)

and in the thread about the CAI you guys are referring to CEL .. what does CEL mean ???
Your best bet for gaining low end power would be a turbo. A good turbocharger would nearly double the torque that your car produces and therefore give you good pull once you hit boost (depends on the turbo lag). A less expensive option would be a 6-speed swap. The auto-gts has less pull in the low end than an auto-gt, making it the slowest celica you can buy. A 6-speed swap would give you more power and gear control of where the power is. Add a CAI and exhaust to gain some more torque on the low end.
Originally Posted by ghostingcelica
supercharge
The 2zz? right...dumbass
Originally Posted by BlackCeli
Originally Posted by drivethru1986
ya thats what i throught...so my first paycheck at my new job if i get it friday...(tpr intake, and gunna get my car checked out...its idleing at almost 2000 when not warmed up and making this weird ass sound...not a clue...but thats where $$ is going)

I think it is normal for it to idle at 2000 rpm when you just start the car ... it happens to me as well .. and it was the same even on my last car(rav4). And the sound, you get that sound coz ur idling at a higher than normal rpm.
Yes it is normal for you to idle at around 2k when you first start the car. Once it warms up it should idle around 900-1k.
Posted By: BlackCeli Re: Increase low end torque - Apr 11, 2005 2:55pm
the swap sounds like a good idea ... but how the hell can i get one ??
This place does not have ANY celica's in the market ... so i will have to import one if i need one ... and another thing i wanted to ask is .. will the gt tranny do ?? or will i need a GTS tranny ?? im assuming both use the same tranny.

And about the turbo .. that is a complete no-no coz i will not be able to register my car in this country ... the car will not be registered with almost any mod on it ... even a cat back exhaust that is slightly loud will not be allowed ... its pretty strict out here ...

Another thing ... how hard is it to do the swap ?? i myself was considering it .. coz im not really a fan of Auto's but i dint have much of a choice when i bought it ... it was the only one in my city. And is it specific to the celica ?? coz that will be an issue ... i doubt any of the garages over here know the 00+ celica.

btw ... does the celica run off camry parts ??? i know for sure that the older ones had quite a few camry parts .. which made getting spares pretty easy.
Posted By: BlackCeli Re: Increase low end torque - Apr 11, 2005 3:07pm
ok my bad ... i just read the GT comes with a 5 - speed manual
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