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I wonder why #89981 Jan 24, 7:59pm Jan 24, 7:59pm
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I wonder why
I wonder why the new MR2 spyder isnt getting as much attention as the celica or supra. I never hear anyone talking about the MR2. Must be because its weak, it looks good but 138hp isnt good enough. they should put a turbo as an option. then I'll probally hear more bout it. Comman Toyota you dont want Honda to beat you!!


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I believe the MR2's speed is somewhat in between the Celica GT and GTS...Not a lot of people I know like the MR2, a lot of people associate it as a 'girls car' much like the Miata. I think its pretty cool...kinda reminds ya of a porshe at some angles.

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because of the weight a stock manual mr2 is faster than a stock manual celica gt (just so you dont think its slow)

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Originally Posted by IcEd blUe
because of the weight a stock manual mr2 is faster than a stock manual celica gt (just so you dont think its slow)

what is the weight of stock MR2?


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Re: I wonder why [Re: IcEd blUe] #89985 Jan 24, 8:19pm Jan 24, 8:19pm
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Originally Posted by IcEd blUe
because of the weight a stock manual mr2 is faster than a stock manual celica gt (just so you dont think its slow)

Exactly, doesnt the mr2 have vvt-i engine in it? The same as the Celica GT?

Re: I wonder why [Re: NorwayGT] #89986 Jan 24, 8:22pm Jan 24, 8:22pm
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Originally Posted by NorwayGT
Originally Posted by IcEd blUe
because of the weight a stock manual mr2 is faster than a stock manual celica gt (just so you dont think its slow)

what is the weight of stock MR2?


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was curious too.

2k mr2 weight

Curb Weight: 2195 lbs.

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its got the same engine as the GT, and i think it weighs around 2100-2200lbs. and RWD of course. ...ok you just beat me to it, never mind

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Yeah, I've got a 2001 mr2, that thing is a kick, i love that car, not that i don't love the celi, but rear wheel drive mid engine is a whole new world.


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what does mr2 run in the 1/4 stock?


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Re: I wonder why [Re: eddie_725] #89991 Jan 24, 9:04pm Jan 24, 9:04pm
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i dunno, never timed it. i do know it can run 0-60 in like 7 or a bit under if you drive it well.


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According to most of the major mags it runs low-mid 15s

Not to put too much stock in their results, but that should give some idea.

I'd take one thumbsup... except the trunk is the size of a briefcase


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we used to have a turbo V8 lotus eclipse. it was a mid engine car, like the mr2 is. for the lotuse the trunk was in the Hood (lol). is that how it is in the mr2?


was....5speed with i/h/e
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is....04 srt4 stock
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the MR2 is discontinued now.


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I like the 90-95 MR2's better than the new ones.


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Originally Posted by RacerX225
I like the 90-95 MR2's better than the new ones.


yea, the turbo ones OW3nd


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Re: I wonder why [Re: NorwayGT] #89998 Jan 24, 9:25pm Jan 24, 9:25pm
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Originally Posted by NorwayGT
Originally Posted by RacerX225
I like the 90-95 MR2's better than the new ones.


yea, the turbo ones OW3nd


The old ones were fugly, the new design is way better. Too bad they never just dropped a 2zz engine into it.


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Have you ever tried sitting in one with the top UP?

A convertible isn't as popular in states that have rain or snow for more than 4 months out of the year - look around at the other cars in your state, how many of them are convertibles?

The MR2 is a great car, but the MRS has a very select market - and not much of that market is anyone over 6 foot who requires the car as a daily driver outside of the Southern California and surrounding areas...

Retail Price (MSRP) $24,645 for a 1.8L 138hp I4 2195lbs vehicle with a max seating of 2... you're going to be hitting an EXTREMELY select market

What about engine power upgrades? is there a VVT-i forced induction system available to shoot this puppy past 200hp?


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Originally Posted by isaac


What about engine power upgrades? is there a VVT-i forced induction system available to shoot this puppy past 200hp?


Umm actually Isaac there is...

http://www.i-m-racing.com/topsecmrstur.html


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Originally Posted by RacerX225
Originally Posted by isaac


What about engine power upgrades? is there a VVT-i forced induction system available to shoot this puppy past 200hp?


Umm actually Isaac there is...

http://www.i-m-racing.com/topsecmrstur.html


it was a question i had when looking to buy one instead of the celica back in 2000.. thanks for answering it thumbsup


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Originally Posted by isaac
Originally Posted by RacerX225
Originally Posted by isaac


What about engine power upgrades? is there a VVT-i forced induction system available to shoot this puppy past 200hp?


Umm actually Isaac there is...

http://www.i-m-racing.com/topsecmrstur.html


it was a question i had when looking to buy one instead of the celica back in 2000.. thanks for answering it thumbsup


Wow... so Ecelica.com was almost EMR2.com?

Just doesn't have the same ring to it.


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I think one of the main reasons is because the site is everythingcelica.com not everythingmr2.com lol

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hmmm...emr2 sounds like a medical term...or pc term...or a radio station...Welcome To EMR2 the best hits of the 80's and 90's!

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i liked the gen before that latest one...turbo...oooohhhhhhhhh

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for 05 they should put the 1zz toyota S.C. on the mr2, and celica GT while there at it


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is....04 srt4 stock
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Originally Posted by NorwayGT
for 05 they should put the 1zz toyota S.C. on the mr2, and celica GT while there at it


they discontinued it... good thing we've got one already thumbsup 2k1 MR-S, spec blue thumbsup

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Originally Posted by spaztikid
Originally Posted by NorwayGT
for 05 they should put the 1zz toyota S.C. on the mr2, and celica GT while there at it


they discontinued it... good thing we've got one already thumbsup 2k1 MR-S, spec blue thumbsup


u have an mr-S??? how much was it to import?


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Import? they sell them at most the Toyota dealerships here in SoCal...


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Originally Posted by isaac

Import? they sell them at most the Toyota dealerships here in SoCal...


they sell mr-2 spyders, not mr-s. mr-s is the car only available in japan i belive. it has the GTS engine unlike the US MR2 with the GT engine.

EDIT: i could be totally wrong


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have you guys checked our featured MR-S ???
http://www.everything350z.com/feature/index.shtml

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MR2s are designed for turns not drag racing although many have been successful at building fast drag mr2s.

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Originally Posted by Steven
MR2s are designed for turns not drag racing although many have been successful at building fast drag mr2s.


Yeah, those damn things are TRUE sports cars. Lighter and smaller than even the Miata, no backseat, no roof... you're hardcore if that's your only car tongue


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Many people judge a car by what it can do on the 1/4 mile which isn't really fair.

The MR2's are amazing cars and have an unbelievable amount of aftermarket support. I am considering purchasing a MKII MR2 Turbo for my dedicated autox car later.

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The MR2 is a much less forgiving car in the turns than the celica. Celica's are verry forgiving where in most cases you'll just get a bad case of understeer with improper cornering where as having your back end come out sideways because you went too hot into a turn in a MR2.

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It's too small

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mr2 is like the g rated version of lotus elise.
heres why mr2 didnt succeed IMO
1. two seater only, so its for only for a minor group of ppl
2. almost no promotions for it at all
3. not enough power as stock for racers.
4. bad interior especially the shiftknob area.
5. overpriced for being what it is
mr2 should be a frickin 350z s2000 killer and all the other cars in the category. it looks like a cheap boxster from outside, and inside is a diss.

speaking of weight, anyone knows how much does a gts weight without a sunroof? 100lbs less?

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i'm not a big fan of convertibles

i like to have a roof when i roll over in my car

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Originally Posted by NorwayGT
Originally Posted by isaac
Import? they sell them at most the Toyota dealerships here in SoCal...


they sell mr-2 spyders, not mr-s. mr-s is the car only available in japan i belive. it has the GTS engine unlike the US MR2 with the GT engine.

EDIT: i could be totally wrong


in US, it's called MR-S or MR2S...it's either one...because it's an MR-Spyder


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Highly unlikely, A Sunroof-less GTS would probably weigh just 10s of pounds less than a sunroofed GTS.

Originally Posted by stefanoc
speaking of weight, anyone knows how much does a gts weight without a sunroof? 100lbs less?

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i'm diggin the hard top on that mrs.

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Originally Posted by beans
i'm diggin the hard top on that mrs.


i think the hardtop is only jdm--you have to get it shipped from japan if i remember properly.

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Originally Posted by Steven
Highly unlikely, A Sunroof-less GTS would probably weigh just 10s of pounds less than a sunroofed GTS.

Originally Posted by stefanoc
speaking of weight, anyone knows how much does a gts weight without a sunroof? 100lbs less?


i heard when having a sunroof a heavy block of metal is added on the top on each side of the sunroof. its not just a sunrood replacing the metal, but the top is made differently. anyone with a clue?

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Originally Posted by stefanoc
Originally Posted by Steven
Highly unlikely, A Sunroof-less GTS would probably weigh just 10s of pounds less than a sunroofed GTS.

Originally Posted by stefanoc
speaking of weight, anyone knows how much does a gts weight without a sunroof? 100lbs less?


i heard when having a sunroof a heavy block of metal is added on the top on each side of the sunroof. its not just a sunrood replacing the metal, but the top is made differently. anyone with a clue?


i would venture to guess around $100 pounds. the sunroof also drops your roof down about an extra 1/2".

gts model celicas without sunroofs DO exist.

Re: I wonder why [Re: eddie_725] #90025 Jan 25, 4:39pm Jan 25, 4:39pm
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Lots of guys are swapping 2ZZ's into the MR-2 spyder, that makes for one hell of a fast car.

BTW the sunroof doesn't make much of a weight difference on the celica, unless you have the glass sunroof. they come with a polycarbonate sunroof to keep the weight down, and my sunroof hasn't peeled or anything yet.

If it does peel down the road, I intend to replace it with a Carbon Fiber sunroof panel instead. lots of companies make these to fit a given application.


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i guess they okay but i like the old ones better
stock turbo and shit yeahhhhh thats wat i like the new one looks weird i dont know thats just me

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