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If you could change the 7th Gen... #85968 Jan 18, 9:13pm Jan 18, 9:13pm
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If you could change the 7th Gen...
I know that all of us love our cars, but nothing is perfect. If you could change the way your car came from the factory, what exactly would you do? Don't say "factory turbo" or "300HP", because we're talking changes that would keep it in the same price range.

Me? I think that they should have increased the displacement by .2 or .4 liters in the GTS for a little more torque, and I know that I'd want the automatic to have five gears instead of four. Also I'd want the tiptronic shifter to be on the shift lever like most cars, because it's way too hard to shift when you're turning with where they are now.


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Re: If you could change the 7th Gen... [Re: RevMonster] #85969 Jan 18, 9:15pm Jan 18, 9:15pm
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Re: If you could change the 7th Gen... [Re: RevMonster] #85970 Jan 18, 9:24pm Jan 18, 9:24pm
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factory 4wd upgrade. 2.0liters which would make the car have more torque and hp. fixed belt tensioner problem. nicer stock rims and better aftermarket/TRD support. thats all i can remember now

Re: If you could change the 7th Gen... [Re: RevMonster] #85971 Jan 18, 9:30pm Jan 18, 9:30pm
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Re: If you could change the 7th Gen... [Re: RevMonster] #85972 Jan 18, 9:34pm Jan 18, 9:34pm
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Re: If you could change the 7th Gen... [Re: aznsaiyan509] #85973 Jan 18, 9:39pm Jan 18, 9:39pm
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I always thought that torque could be altered by the gear ratios? Anyways, I'd change the design of the back of the car. Only part of the car that I had to learn to love. It just looks like they painted themselves into a corner and just said "fuck it" with the back.

With the engine I'd add a little more displacement if not drop in the same straight six engine that the Supra used to have.

Or give the car an extreme weight reduction like the new Lotus. It's got the same engine in it but can go 0-60 under five because it weighs under 2k.


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Re: If you could change the 7th Gen... [Re: carbon_blue_gt] #85974 Jan 18, 9:41pm Jan 18, 9:41pm
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1. more power (i don't care how)
2. voltmeter gauge
3. oil pressure gauge
4. solid 'thud' when you close the door (i dont like to hear metal banging)
5. better stereo unit (the factory sucks)
6. a steering wheel that actually has grips (sorry, but my leather wheel is slippery..especially in summer when my hands are wet from sweat)
7. put the little cargo holder on the back of the passenger seat behind the drivers seat also.
8. put the cupholders in the front seat somewhere else (although personally i can't think of a better place..but its very difficult to shift comfortably with a cup there..and 2 cups just makes it worse)

Re: If you could change the 7th Gen... [Re: RevMonster] #85975 Jan 18, 9:46pm Jan 18, 9:46pm

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Re: If you could change the 7th Gen... #85976 Jan 18, 9:49pm Jan 18, 9:49pm
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Originally Posted by Shinobi
Factory JL Audio system...Im talkin JL W7s with box and amp.


LMAO, I think warranty claims from broken windows would be a big problem spineyes


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Re: If you could change the 7th Gen... [Re: RevMonster] #85977 Jan 18, 10:53pm Jan 18, 10:53pm
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that GTS only comes in a 6spd i depresses me seeing a GTS as an auto, they should have done what acura did with the RSX-S, otherwise i wouldnt' change a thing!!


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Re: If you could change the 7th Gen... [Re: stefanoc] #85978 Jan 18, 11:09pm Jan 18, 11:09pm
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Originally Posted by stefanoc
factory 4wd upgrade. 2.0liters which would make the car have more torque and hp. fixed belt tensioner problem. nicer stock rims and better aftermarket/trd support. thats all i can remember now


more choices of stock rims
AWD with a beefier 4 cylinder(not 6) like a vvtl version of the new scion tc motor

Re: If you could change the 7th Gen... [Re: RevMonster] #85979 Jan 19, 2:22am Jan 19, 2:22am
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same color gauges and lights (00-02 problem)
TRD sus. package (springs/strut/shocks) and rims from dealer, as well as TRD exhaust/ new TRD CAI

2.0 liter engine

No AWD, because AWD top end sucks ASS and you really don't need it in a 2500lbs car if you have some driving skill, however a LSD would be nice.

10K rpm redline tasty

Better fit and finish, not so many little annoying rattles. GTS with a stereo system you didn't have to bypass to upgrade, as well as regular screw style speakers, making it easier to upgrade.

I'd like to see a turbo/sc option, but that's not really possible.


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Re: If you could change the 7th Gen... #85980 Jan 19, 4:24am Jan 19, 4:24am
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Originally Posted by Shinobi
Factory JL Audio system...Im talkin JL W7s with box and amp.



hahaha, i'm with Shinobi! smile


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Re: If you could change the 7th Gen... #85981 Jan 19, 7:28am Jan 19, 7:28am
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Originally Posted by Shinobi
Factory JL Audio system...Im talkin JL W7s with box and amp.


that would be crazy spineyes spineyes

but realistically speaking...hav all the lights inside all blue including the gauges...
also more horses dont care how jus want it...
more aftermarket support...
RWD or AWD...

Re: If you could change the 7th Gen... [Re: kimchiman201] #85982 Jan 19, 10:14am Jan 19, 10:14am
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better antenna (that doesnt look like an rc antenna)
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a front windshield that doesnt curve outward
minimize the space between the Hood and the windshield (aka longer looking Hood)

Re: If you could change the 7th Gen... [Re: RevMonster] #85983 Jan 19, 12:05pm Jan 19, 12:05pm
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awd & more power


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Re: If you could change the 7th Gen... [Re: Speed4TheNeed] #85984 Jan 19, 1:04pm Jan 19, 1:04pm
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Originally Posted by sPeEd4tHeNeEd
1. more power (i don't care how)
2. voltmeter gauge
3. oil pressure gauge
4. solid 'thud' when you close the door (i dont like to hear metal banging)
5. better stereo unit (the factory sucks)
6. a steering wheel that actually has grips (sorry, but my leather wheel is slippery..especially in summer when my hands are wet from sweat)
7. put the little cargo holder on the back of the passenger seat behind the drivers seat also.
8. put the cupholders in the front seat somewhere else (although personally i can't think of a better place..but its very difficult to shift comfortably with a cup there..and 2 cups just makes it worse)

Re: If you could change the 7th Gen... [Re: RevMonster] #85985 Jan 19, 1:17pm Jan 19, 1:17pm
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well, you could have a slightly larger engine for the same price...
That's kinda all i would want.


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Re: If you could change the 7th Gen... [Re: RevMonster] #85986 Jan 19, 1:21pm Jan 19, 1:21pm
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RWD or AWD

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Re: If you could change the 7th Gen... [Re: RevMonster] #85987 Jan 19, 1:21pm Jan 19, 1:21pm
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Re: If you could change the 7th Gen... [Re: VSGTS14] #85988 Jan 19, 1:22pm Jan 19, 1:22pm
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more torque, say 180

Re: If you could change the 7th Gen... [Re: RevMonster] #85989 Jan 19, 3:01pm Jan 19, 3:01pm
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Re: If you could change the 7th Gen... [Re: VVTi03] #85990 Jan 19, 3:02pm Jan 19, 3:02pm
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Originally Posted by VVTi03
LSD, leather in GT, abs standard, bigger rims


yea, definately lsd


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Re: If you could change the 7th Gen... [Re: RevMonster] #85991 Jan 19, 3:22pm Jan 19, 3:22pm
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They should've made the gearing in the Auto GTS a little bit shorter. that way, you could time the shifts in M mode to keep it in lift better, only in gears 1, 2 and 3. 4th gear should stay as it is pretty much (as it's the overdrive gear, and the odds of hitting lift in 4th on the auto GTS is pretty much a pipe dream) but being able to rip through 1st, 2nd and 3rd in lift would give a huge boost in performance, by the time you hit 4th gear the tall gearing would bring you up to top speed fairly quick at that point.

On top of that, they should've kept the 2000 model year's redline & fuel cut where it was for ALL model years, the ECU swap is a bitch, and the lower limits did nothing but hurt the performance of the automatics out there.

I think toyota should've shot for a nice round HP number, hell, 200 HP isn't too much to ask, why stop at 180 HP when 200 was easily acheivable under US specs? (Lotus did it with a domestic 2ZZ, why couldn't toyota?) The GTS could've come from the factory with a TRD header, exhaust, performance filter, and matching tuned ECU to do this.

Thicker sheetmetal in the door skins would've been nice, they're about as dent resistant as a soda can!

How about making the rear strut tower brace a factory item guys? the 350Z has a brace from the factory and WOW! not only does it stiffen the car, but it looks cool too (all wrapped in leater... Awesome!)

At the very least, they could've stich welded the unibody more to increase ridgidity.

Lastly, The GTS has a 4-wheel ABS disc brake setup, but it still retains RUBBER brake lines!!! What were they thinking?!? high performance braking needs stainless braided brake lines, or at the very least, steel hard lines. Such an awesome brake system, but with those rubber lines, the brake pedal is mushy and feels cheap, brake performance also suffers.

As with any car, there is room for improvement, however, if there were no room for improvement, there would be no aftermarket for our cars...


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Re: If you could change the 7th Gen... [Re: RevMonster] #85992 Jan 19, 3:22pm Jan 19, 3:22pm
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everyone wants AWD, but that robs top end power like Uma Thurman in a Gucci store


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Re: If you could change the 7th Gen... [Re: DiabloGTS] #85993 Jan 19, 3:26pm Jan 19, 3:26pm
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Even RWD robs the top end but I'd love it.

Originally Posted by DiabloGTS
everyone wants AWD, but that robs top end power like Uma Thurman in a Gucci store

Re: If you could change the 7th Gen... [Re: Steven] #85994 Jan 19, 3:29pm Jan 19, 3:29pm
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Originally Posted by Steven
Even RWD robs the top end but I'd love it.

Originally Posted by DiabloGTS
everyone wants AWD, but that robs top end power like Uma Thurman in a Gucci store


well, not many people I know like to drive over 100 mph anyhow, most of them get scared at 90


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Re: If you could change the 7th Gen... [Re: DiabloGTS] #85995 Jan 19, 3:35pm Jan 19, 3:35pm
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Originally Posted by DiabloGTS
Originally Posted by Steven
Even RWD robs the top end but I'd love it.

Originally Posted by DiabloGTS
everyone wants AWD, but that robs top end power like Uma Thurman in a Gucci store


well, not many people I know like to drive over 100 mph anyhow, most of them get scared at 90


yeah... people get scared or worried or something... for me its not the going fast part, its the accelerating and taking turns that fun.

Re: If you could change the 7th Gen... [Re: RevMonster] #85996 Jan 19, 3:41pm Jan 19, 3:41pm
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Hell yeah, I got my GTS going 110 on I-55 with little effort, and the needle was still going up!!! I didn't even realise I was going that fast until I checked the speedo. The guy in the Grand Prix GTP didn't know what hit him, he just dissappeared in my rearview like it was nothing.

that's the fastest I've gotten in my celica to date, needless to say, I let off the gas and slowed down at that point, the scary part was that I knew for a fact the car could keep going faster beyond that. Even scarier was the fact that my celi didn't even feel like it was going that fast, to me, it felt like it was going about 70 (my last car was an escort though, feels way sketchier, topp speed in that was about 100, and that was after a bunch of engine & suspension mods! When that car was going 100, it was a truly scary feeling!)

The celica handles so nice, and runs so smooth, it's not nearly as scary to drive at speed thumbsup At least toyota did that part right!


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Re: If you could change the 7th Gen... [Re: RevMonster] #85997 Jan 19, 4:03pm Jan 19, 4:03pm
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RWD and bigger rims, the stock stero does suck, they should have put the stero from like the avalon or camry in it (my moms got the av, my dads got the cam) Also some better struts and springs would have helped out, and engineered the rear basket area so that it was flat, so sub boxes would be a lot easier! and Rear Hatch shocks that are good in all seasons, the stocks ones suck every morning when its cold

Re: If you could change the 7th Gen... [Re: RevMonster] #85998 Jan 19, 6:40pm Jan 19, 6:40pm
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I'd also like to see stock front/rear strut braces rolleyes


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Re: If you could change the 7th Gen... [Re: RevMonster] #86000 Jan 19, 7:32pm Jan 19, 7:32pm
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rwd so i can drift! and a bit more power and torque


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Re: If you could change the 7th Gen... [Re: RevMonster] #86001 Jan 19, 11:39pm Jan 19, 11:39pm
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Change engine to a 2.0L, and up the torque a bit. Put in a Sportshift auto in the GT. Make the car come with 16" rims on the GT and 17" on the GTS.

Re: If you could change the 7th Gen... [Re: mikalous] #86002 Jan 19, 11:47pm Jan 19, 11:47pm
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Thought of two more things...

1) Make the graphite exterior color available, same as on the Lexus IS

2) Offer a TRD performance and weight-reduction package. Carbon Fiber Hood and spoiler, lightweight Racing Hart wheels, TRD springs, shifter and exhaust.



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