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Celica22 Jan 8, 6:57pm - #78786 
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Celica GT GTS different?

I've been looking at a lot of pics recently of GT's and GTS's. And I don't know if it is just me, but stock for stock, the GTS looks different from the GT. I know the wheel sizes are different, (GTS being larger at 16" stock) but there seems to be a considerable difference between both at stock (I'm talking wtihout the TRD kits) and even between hooked up GTs and hooked up GTS's. The GT never quite looks the same even if lowered...larger wheels, kit etc...The GTS always seems to look better.

At stock, does the GTS already come with a lowered suspension? I can't put my finger on it but I know there is something different because I am able to tell from a pic if the car is a GT or a GTS (hooked up ones that is). What is the difference?

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trog2233 Jan 8, 7:03pm - #78787 

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dude they are exactly the same besides the motor and brakes confused spineyes crazy
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isaac Jan 8, 7:09pm - #78788 
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Another few differences...

is exhaust tip curved/oval or flat/round? (curved is GTS)

tach on a GTS is 9k RPM... GT is only 8k RPM

speedo on a GTS is 160mph... gt is only 140mph

rear brakes on GTS are disk... gt has drum

engine on gts displays metal vaulves... gt displays plastic covers

gts comes with leather seating... gt is cloth seating

gts has side air bags on the seats... gt does not

gts comes standard with sunroof and power windows

there are several other ways to tell the difference, but after just looking at the above listing of obvious visual features, you will have a pretty good idea of what is what thumbsup

more differences can be found at...
https://www.celicahobby.com/tech/2002celica.html

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BHayes____ZZT231 Jan 8, 7:18pm - #78789 

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Originally Posted by isaac
Another few differences...

is exhaust tip curved/oval or flat/round? (curved is GTS)

tach on a GTS is 9k RPM... GT is only 8k RPM

speedo on a GTS is 160mph... gt is only 140mph

rear brakes on GTS are disk... gt has drum

engine on gts displays metal vaulves... gt displays plastic covers

gts comes with leather seating... gt is cloth seating

gts has side air bags on the seats... gt does not

[color=red][/color] and power windows

there are several other ways to tell the difference, but after just looking at the above listing of obvious visual features, you will have a pretty good idea of what is what thumbsup

more differences can be found at...
https://www.celicahobby.com/tech/2002celica.html



You have to be kidding me about the sunroof thing, I've actually notice that too every GTS Celica I've seen it has a freakin sunroof!!!!!! frown frown frown frown frown

No offense, but I don't like sunroofs being on Celicas thumbsdown thumbsdown, to me there's not enough roof to have a sunroof. Thats just my two cents

Question? Do you think I can get a dealership to get a GTS without a sunroof like custom build one

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Celica22 Jan 8, 7:21pm - #78790 
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hmm thanks for the list of differences isaac, but i don't know what it is, from outside pics of the car, a hooked up GTS always seems to look nicer than a hooked up GT...well IMO at least. Maybe its me.

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trog2233 Jan 8, 7:21pm - #78791 

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Originally Posted by BHayes____ZZT231
Originally Posted by isaac
Another few differences...

is exhaust tip curved/oval or flat/round? (curved is GTS)

tach on a GTS is 9k RPM... GT is only 8k RPM

speedo on a GTS is 160mph... gt is only 140mph

rear brakes on GTS are disk... gt has drum

engine on gts displays metal vaulves... gt displays plastic covers

gts comes with leather seating... gt is cloth seating

gts has side air bags on the seats... gt does not

[color=red][/color] and power windows

there are several other ways to tell the difference, but after just looking at the above listing of obvious visual features, you will have a pretty good idea of what is what thumbsup

more differences can be found at...
https://www.celicahobby.com/tech/2002celica.html



You have to be kidding me about the sunroof thing, I've actually notice that too every GTS Celica I've seen it has a freakin sunroof!!!!!! frown frown frown frown frown

No offense, but I don't like sunroofs being on Celicas thumbsdown thumbsdown, to me there's not enough roof to have a sunroof. Thats just my two cents

Question? Do you think I can get a dealership to get a GTS without a sunroof like custom build one


Man i love my sunroof... thumbsup
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celikitten Jan 8, 7:28pm - #78792 

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i love my sunroof as well thumbsup i think it's one of the coolest features... but i'm also short...

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isaac Jan 8, 7:37pm - #78793 
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Originally Posted by Celica22

hmm thanks for the list of differences isaac, but i don't know what it is, from outside pics of the car, a hooked up GTS always seems to look nicer than a hooked up GT...well IMO at least. Maybe its me.

confused grin


are you are talk STOCK GT vs STOCK GTS ????

or

HOOKED-UP GT vs HOOKED-UP GTS ????

...

It's very rare that I ever see two "hooked up" ANYTHINGS that look the same - everyone has their own style...

and on that note - no matter if I had a GT or GTS, my Celica would look the exact same now - I'm sure that the majority of people would say the same about their Celica too...

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trog2233 Jan 8, 7:39pm - #78794 

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half the time you can't even tell if its a GT or GTS when they are done up confused confused i have no idea what you are talkin about
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isaac Jan 8, 7:42pm - #78795 
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Celica22, please name these car from left to right... if they are GT or GTS...

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trog2233 Jan 8, 7:56pm - #78796 

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hahaah this is gonna be funny...i bet you miss them
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Speed4TheNeed Jan 8, 8:17pm - #78797 

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Originally Posted by trog2233
Originally Posted by BHayes____ZZT231
Originally Posted by isaac
Another few differences...

is exhaust tip curved/oval or flat/round? (curved is GTS)

tach on a GTS is 9k RPM... GT is only 8k RPM

speedo on a GTS is 160mph... gt is only 140mph

rear brakes on GTS are disk... gt has drum

engine on gts displays metal vaulves... gt displays plastic covers

gts comes with leather seating... gt is cloth seating

gts has side air bags on the seats... gt does not

[color=red][/color] and power windows

there are several other ways to tell the difference, but after just looking at the above listing of obvious visual features, you will have a pretty good idea of what is what thumbsup

more differences can be found at...
https://www.celicahobby.com/tech/2002celica.html



You have to be kidding me about the sunroof thing, I've actually notice that too every GTS Celica I've seen it has a freakin sunroof!!!!!! frown frown frown frown frown

No offense, but I don't like sunroofs being on Celicas thumbsdown thumbsdown, to me there's not enough roof to have a sunroof. Thats just my two cents

Question? Do you think I can get a dealership to get a GTS without a sunroof like custom build one


Man i love my sunroof... thumbsup


officially, the sunroof on the gts is an "option", although it is very rare that you see a gts w/out a sunroof.

that said, there are gts' out there that do not have a sunroof.

a link to the official toyota celica site where they list options. notice that under "options" for the gts they list the sliding sunroof. http://www.toyota.com/vehicles/2004/celica/options.html

also, here is a link from an ecelica user who has said he had to order (to give you an idea of how rare they are) a gts w/out a sunroof because of his height: https://www.celicahobby.com/ubbthrea...#Post1869760468

though rare, the sunroof is, at least technically, an option. thumbsup
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Gen7fan Jan 8, 8:22pm - #78798 
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I want to try that (picking out the trim levels), but first let me say this is a little silly because (like has been said) there is very little difference stock to stock in looks.

OK I thing the first two on the left are GTSs, the last on the right is a GT, and...

...the middle red one is a GT and the middle silver is a GTS.


How did I do?
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Speed4TheNeed Jan 8, 8:24pm - #78799 

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Originally Posted by Gen7fan
I want to try that (picking out the trim levels), but first let me say this is a little silly because (like has been said) there is very little difference stock to stock in looks.

OK I thing the first two on the left are GTSs, the last on the right is a GT, and...


lol well the point was not to try...because there's really no way you can tell unless you knew beforehand which car was what.
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Gen7fan Jan 8, 8:26pm - #78800 
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Originally Posted by sPeEd4tHeNeEd
Originally Posted by Gen7fan
I want to try that (picking out the trim levels), but first let me say this is a little silly because (like has been said) there is very little difference stock to stock in looks.

OK I thing the first two on the left are GTSs, the last on the right is a GT, and...


lol well the point was not to try...because there's really no way you can tell unless you knew beforehand which car was what.



I know rofl, I thought it just makes even more recockulous to try. rofl
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trog2233 Jan 8, 8:26pm - #78801 

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Originally Posted by Gen7fan
I want to try that (picking out the trim levels), but first let me say this is a little silly because (like has been said) there is very little difference stock to stock in looks.

OK I thing the first two on the left are GTSs, the last on the right is a GT, and...

...the middle red one is a GT and the middle silver is a GTS.


How did I do?


Damn dude..u got it right on eek eek
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Gen7fan Jan 8, 8:27pm - #78802 
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Originally Posted by trog2233
Originally Posted by Gen7fan
I want to try that (picking out the trim levels), but first let me say this is a little silly because (like has been said) there is very little difference stock to stock in looks.

OK I thing the first two on the left are GTSs, the last on the right is a GT, and...

...the middle red one is a GT and the middle silver is a GTS.


How did I do?


Damn dude..u got it right on eek eek




wheels give them away.
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beans Jan 8, 8:34pm - #78803 
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Originally Posted by Gen7fan
Originally Posted by trog2233
Originally Posted by Gen7fan
I want to try that (picking out the trim levels), but first let me say this is a little silly because (like has been said) there is very little difference stock to stock in looks.

OK I thing the first two on the left are GTSs, the last on the right is a GT, and...

...the middle red one is a GT and the middle silver is a GTS.


How did I do?


Damn dude..u got it right on eek eek




wheels give them away.


Then explain the red and silver in the middle?

Cuz I want to know
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Speed4TheNeed Jan 8, 8:38pm - #78804 

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lol, calm down beans...and it's just as easy to put stock gts rims on a gt (check subarashi's profile).
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beans Jan 8, 8:40pm - #78805 
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Originally Posted by sPeEd4tHeNeEd
lol, calm down beans...and it's just as easy to put stock gts rims on a gt (check subarashi's profile).


Oh, um . . . I wasn't angry or anything, I guess I just wrote it wrong.

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xXMaGNuSXx Jan 8, 8:42pm - #78806 
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Originally Posted by beans
Originally Posted by Gen7fan
Originally Posted by trog2233
Originally Posted by Gen7fan
I want to try that (picking out the trim levels), but first let me say this is a little silly because (like has been said) there is very little difference stock to stock in looks.

OK I thing the first two on the left are GTSs, the last on the right is a GT, and...

...the middle red one is a GT and the middle silver is a GTS.


How did I do?


Damn dude..u got it right on eek eek




wheels give them away.


Then explain the red and silver in the middle?

Cuz I want to know


Some ppl put GTS rims on their GTs and vice versa so you never know .
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trog2233 Jan 8, 8:43pm - #78807 

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how did you get the silver and red in the middle?
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beans Jan 8, 8:44pm - #78808 
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The red and silver next to the red have aftermarket rims.
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Gen7fan Jan 8, 8:46pm - #78809 
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Originally Posted by beans
Originally Posted by Gen7fan
Originally Posted by trog2233
Originally Posted by Gen7fan
I want to try that (picking out the trim levels), but first let me say this is a little silly because (like has been said) there is very little difference stock to stock in looks.

OK I thing the first two on the left are GTSs, the last on the right is a GT, and...

...the middle red one is a GT and the middle silver is a GTS.


How did I do?


Damn dude..u got it right on eek eek




wheels give them away.


Then explain the red and silver in the middle?

Cuz I want to know




Educated guess, I felt that a GT owner is more apt to put on a raised Hood scoop than a GTS owner. Almost as way to make the car seem like more than it is to those who don't know, like neon owners or honda owners. I say that knowing that chances are that is not the case, and I say that being a GT owner.
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trog2233 Jan 8, 8:47pm - #78810 

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Originally Posted by Gen7fan
Originally Posted by beans
Originally Posted by Gen7fan
Originally Posted by trog2233
[quote=Gen7fan]I want to try that (picking out the trim levels), but first let me say this is a little silly because (like has been said) there is very little difference stock to stock in looks.

OK I thing the first two on the left are GTSs, the last on the right is a GT, and...

...the middle red one is a GT and the middle silver is a GTS.


How did I do?


Damn dude..u got it right on eek eek




wheels give them away.


Then explain the red and silver in the middle?

Cuz I want to know




Educated guess, I felt that a GT owner is more apt to put on a raised Hood scoop than a GTS owner. Almost as way to make the car seem like more than it is to those who don't know, like neon owners or honda owners. I say that knowing that chances are that is not the case, and I say that being a GT owner. [/quote]

HAHA ok ...the red one is mine rofl
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Gen7fan Jan 8, 8:49pm - #78811 
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Originally Posted by xXMaGNuSXx
Originally Posted by beans
Originally Posted by Gen7fan
Originally Posted by trog2233
[quote=Gen7fan]I want to try that (picking out the trim levels), but first let me say this is a little silly because (like has been said) there is very little difference stock to stock in looks.

OK I thing the first two on the left are GTSs, the last on the right is a GT, and...

...the middle red one is a GT and the middle silver is a GTS.


How did I do?


Damn dude..u got it right on eek eek




wheels give them away.


Then explain the red and silver in the middle?

Cuz I want to know


Some ppl put GTS rims on their GTs and vice versa so you never know . [/quote]


yes but what are the chances, it happens but not much. If your showing your GTS would you put GT rims on for the photo. Isaac was proving a point, he didn't set up this photo for the thread to throw us off.
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Gen7fan Jan 8, 8:51pm - #78812 
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Oh Shit! Please don't take that the wrong way Trog. I didn't know that was you.
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Speed4TheNeed Jan 8, 8:53pm - #78813 

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haha nate...you ricer! tryna be cool w/your scoop, huh?

no, just pickin
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trog2233 Jan 8, 8:54pm - #78814 

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Originally Posted by Gen7fan
Oh Shit! Please don't take that the wrong way Trog. I didn't know that was you.

HHAHAH i don't care...i like my scoop grin
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Gen7fan Jan 8, 8:56pm - #78815 
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Originally Posted by trog2233
Originally Posted by Gen7fan
Oh Shit! Please don't take that the wrong way Trog. I didn't know that was you.

HHAHAH i don't care...i like my scoop grin



So do I, wanted one since the first time I saw them. I was just trying to break it down to put the odds in my favor.
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Speed4TheNeed Jan 8, 8:57pm - #78816 

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Originally Posted by trog2233
Originally Posted by Gen7fan
Oh Shit! Please don't take that the wrong way Trog. I didn't know that was you.

HHAHAH i don't care...i like my scoop grin


i like it too. but you know what? i'll do you a favor and i'll ship my factory scoop to you and you send me your raised hoodscoop and we call it even. thataway you won't look like a gt poser trying to be gts rofl rofl rofl

don't take me seriously.
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trog2233 Jan 8, 8:58pm - #78817 

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Originally Posted by sPeEd4tHeNeEd
Originally Posted by trog2233
Originally Posted by Gen7fan
Oh Shit! Please don't take that the wrong way Trog. I didn't know that was you.

HHAHAH i don't care...i like my scoop grin


i like it too. but you know what? i'll do you a favor and i'll ship my factory scoop to you and you send me your raised hoodscoop and we call it even. thataway you won't look like a gt poser trying to be gts rofl rofl rofl

don't take me seriously.


Yea sure sounds like a plan...u want anything else? my kit, rims? stereo? rofl rofl
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Speed4TheNeed Jan 8, 9:02pm - #78818 

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nah, i'll be straight. i just didn't want you to look like a poser, thats all. we'll leave it at hoodscoops. thumbsup
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trog2233 Jan 8, 9:03pm - #78819 

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Originally Posted by sPeEd4tHeNeEd
nah, i'll be straight. i just didn't want you to look like a poser, thats all. we'll leave it at hoodscoops. thumbsup


HAHAHA aight spineyes spineyes spineyes
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Originally Posted by celikitten
i love my sunroof as well thumbsup i think it's one of the coolest features... but i'm also short...


Trog2233 and Celikitten can you tell me what you like about them try to convince me why I shouldn't mind having it, How do they operateone button, two? just curious

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trog2233 Jan 8, 9:25pm - #78821 

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Originally Posted by BHayes____ZZT231
Originally Posted by celikitten
i love my sunroof as well thumbsup i think it's one of the coolest features... but i'm also short...


Trog2233 and Celikitten can you tell me what you like about them try to convince me why I shouldn't mind having it, How do they operateone button, two? just curious



On a nice day...open that up and all the windows and you got sun and air...and it looks better with it open i think thumbsup
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beans Jan 8, 9:30pm - #78822 
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Educated guess, I felt that a GT owner is more apt to put on a raised Hood scoop than a GTS owner. Almost as way to make the car seem like more than it is to those who don't know, like neon owners or honda owners. I say that knowing that chances are that is not the case, and I say that being a GT owner. [/quote]

Ohhhhh I see, brilliant, just bloody brilliant

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Gen7fan Jan 8, 9:54pm - #78823 
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Originally Posted by beans


Educated guess, I felt that a GT owner is more apt to put on a raised hood scoop than a GTS owner. Almost as way to make the car seem like more than it is to those who don't know, like neon owners or honda owners. I say that knowing that chances are that is not the case, and I say that being a GT owner.


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beans Jan 8, 10:41pm - #78824 
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who's bob? confused
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RevMonster
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RevMonster Jan 8, 10:47pm - #78825 

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Quote:

You have to be kidding me about the sunroof thing, I've actually notice that too every GTS Celica I've seen it has a freakin sunroof!!!!!! frown frown frown frown frown

No offense, but I don't like sunroofs being on Celicas thumbsdown thumbsdown, to me there's not enough roof to have a sunroof. Thats just my two cents

Question? Do you think I can get a dealership to get a GTS without a sunroof like custom build one


How can you NOT love sunroofs? After going to a hardtop after having a convertable for so long, I would have never been able to make the switch without having the sunroof for some consolation.

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stefanoc Jan 8, 10:49pm - #78826 

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a gts doesnt have to have a sunroof, neither leather interior...
when you get the gts action package, sunroof and leather are still options. they arent a part of the action package (according to few salesman at the dealership). thats messed up, but i think a sunroof is a plus on a celica especially when you have it open sticking out. i still think celica is overpriced though.
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beans Jan 8, 10:51pm - #78827 
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I like to drive with my head sticking out the sunroof
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Gen7fan Jan 8, 11:15pm - #78828 
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Originally Posted by beans
who's bob? confused


using enlish terms but you don't know them...hmmmmm...


Bobs your uncle = no problem, there ya go, werd, and so on
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Celica22 Jan 9, 1:23am - #78829 
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Originally posted by isaac
Celica22, please name these car from left to right... if they are GT or GTS...


Sorry I didn't get to reply sooner before someone else did. But my honest answer (not dependent on what was already said)

left to right, GTS, GTS, GT, GTS, GT

And I was referring to hooked up GTs vs hooked up GTS as well as stock vs stock (meaning i looked at pics where a GT had GTS rims and I was still able to tell it was a GT) I'll post pics if I can remember where I saw them.

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slidr Jan 9, 1:24am - #78830 

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Quote:
Originally posted by isaac Celica22, please name these car from left to right... if they are GT or GTS...


Sorry I didn't get to reply sooner before someone else did. But my honest answer (not dependent on what was already said)

left to right, GTS, GTS, GT, GTS, GT

And I was referring to hooked up GTs vs hooked up GTS as well as stock vs stock (meaning i looked at pics where a GT had GTS rims and it looked different.)

[/quote]It's gotta be in your head or something. All of the dimensions are the same. I think it's like how some people take out their butterfly valve and say, "Holy shit! It sounds so much differently!"

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Celica22 Jan 9, 1:32am - #78831 
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I think Gen7Fan totally hit the nail on the head in that some GT owners (NOT ALL) are more apt to put on certain things than GTS owners. That is probably the thing I seem to notice then.

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Speed4TheNeed Jan 9, 3:03am - #78832 

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Originally Posted by stefanoc
a gts doesnt have to have a sunroof, neither leather interior...
when you get the gts action package, sunroof and leather are still options. they arent a part of the action package (according to few salesman at the dealership). thats messed up, but i think a sunroof is a plus on a celica especially when you have it open sticking out. i still think celica is overpriced though.


this is true, but was noted on the first page. thumbsup
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PBCelica02 Jan 9, 12:18pm - #78833 

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sunroofs own. what's not to like?
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Speed4TheNeed Jan 9, 12:31pm - #78834 

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Originally Posted by PBCelica02
sunroofs own. what's not to like?


the sunroof top drops the roof about a 1/2" - 1" in that area...for tall people with concerns about headroom, sunroofs may not be best.

personally, i love mine.
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Death Jan 9, 12:41pm - #78835 

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Originally Posted by sPeEd4tHeNeEd
lol, calm down beans...and it's just as easy to put stock gts rims on a gt (check subarashi's profile).





ROFL, Subarashi's celi is a GTS! Hahaha I've seen it in person.

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