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Toyota Celica Lives on in 2005 #77594 Jan 6, 6:02am Jan 6, 6:02am
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Toyota Celica Lives on in 2005
Toyota to keep new product coming strong

By Mark Rechtin
Automotive News / January 04, 2004

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DETROIT -- Although the Big 3 are rediscovering that product is king and launching waves of new vehicles, Toyota won't be a stationary target.

By spring 2005, Toyota, Lexus and Scion will launch 11 new or redesigned products into the North American market. It is part of a product plan that will push Toyota's U.S. presence past 2 million units in 2005, if not this year. Toyota sold an estimated 1.85 million units in America in 2003.

While many of the products are redesigns of existing vehicles, Toyota is venturing into a new segment with the Scion tC entry-level performance coupe. It also is taking on the Honda Civic Si's long dominance of the sport compact market with the 180-horsepower Corolla XRS. Hybrid versions of the Toyota Highlander and Lexus RX 330 are also part of the count.

The six existing vehicles slated to be redesigned currently are not major contributors to the Toyota and Lexus lineups, but they have been in the past and could be more so in the future. Through November 2003, the six vehicles accounted for about 253,000 units sold. However, in 2001, those same vehicles accounted for 368,000 units.

The Toyota Avalon has routinely threatened the 100,000-unit mark, but through November had sold only 47,000 units. The Lexus IS 300 has been a sales disappointment, but Lexus executives have said the next-generation will have coupe and convertible variants in addition to the sedan, likely to sharply increase volume.

The Scion tC is expected to account for about 30,000 sales. The two SUV hybrids could add as much as 50,000 additional units.

Because of the launches, there will be dips in production output as the new models come on line. That is the main reason Toyota, Lexus and Scion will likely stay below a combined 2 million units this year, said Yuki Funo, CEO of Toyota Motor Sales U.S.A.

Said Funo: "Volume-wise, we will grow step-by-step."

http://www.autonews.com/news.cms?newsId=7422


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Re: Toyota Celica Lives on in 2005 [Re: DiabloGTS] #77595 Jan 6, 6:05am Jan 6, 6:05am
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sweet. we get a redesign thumbsup hopefully something w/more horses, too..wouldnt hurt.

Re: Toyota Celica Lives on in 2005 [Re: DiabloGTS] #77596 Jan 6, 6:07am Jan 6, 6:07am
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The Corrola XRS is a 2zz-ge powered Corrola...

Nice! Talk about a Honda Civic stomper

:edit: Doh, not Accord, Civic


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^^ bout time. but the new accords have the option of a 6speed v6 vtech.

Re: Toyota Celica Lives on in 2005 [Re: DiabloGTS] #77598 Jan 6, 6:10am Jan 6, 6:10am
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Re: Toyota Celica Lives on in 2005 [Re: DiabloGTS] #77599 Jan 6, 6:13am Jan 6, 6:13am
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Originally Posted by DiabloGTS
Toyota to keep new product coming strong

The Lexus IS 300 has been a sales disappointment, but Lexus executives have said the next-generation will have coupe and convertible variants in addition to the sedan, likely to sharply increase volume.


If they put it under the toyota badge as the Altezza it would have no problem selling, the prize is jacked up under the lexas brand.


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Originally Posted by Death
Originally Posted by DiabloGTS
Toyota to keep new product coming strong

The Lexus IS 300 has been a sales disappointment, but Lexus executives have said the next-generation will have coupe and convertible variants in addition to the sedan, likely to sharply increase volume.


If they put it under the toyota badge as the altezza it would have no problem selling, the prize is jacked up under the lexas brand.


Why would they want to bite into Camry/Solara sales? The Camry is the most successful platform Toyota sells, and the IS300 would definately cut into that market segment.


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Re: Toyota Celica Lives on in 2005 [Re: DiabloGTS] #77601 Jan 6, 7:32am Jan 6, 7:32am
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Re: Toyota Celica Lives on in 2005 [Re: DiabloGTS] #77602 Jan 6, 7:36am Jan 6, 7:36am
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Re: Toyota Celica Lives on in 2005 [Re: DiabloGTS] #77603 Jan 6, 7:48am Jan 6, 7:48am
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Originally Posted by DiabloGTS
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Re: Toyota Celica Lives on in 2005 [Re: DiabloGTS] #77604 Jan 6, 11:59am Jan 6, 11:59am
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the Celica lives! woot woot!


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Re: Toyota Celica Lives on in 2005 [Re: DiabloGTS] #77605 Jan 6, 12:10pm Jan 6, 12:10pm
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i dunno, it kinda makes me happy and it kinda makes me sad.

happy: i know there will be a newly redesigned celica and it will be awesome.

sad: i thought if they discontinued the celica if i ever wanted to sell mine off it'd be more 'rare' and people would want it more.


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I'm very happy to hear this, I really wanted a new celica, and was rather upset that I may not get a celica if they discontinued one. I cant wait to see the redesign.

Re: Toyota Celica Lives on in 2005 [Re: ilovemyGT] #77607 Jan 6, 12:18pm Jan 6, 12:18pm
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Re: Toyota Celica Lives on in 2005 [Re: DiabloGTS] #77609 Jan 6, 12:49pm Jan 6, 12:49pm
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smile smile smilenice to hear the celica lives on~

to add more...the new Lancer got 16x horses, the Mazda 3 also has 16x horses...this doesnt get the corolla XRS anywhere on being 1st place of performance in its class...and i think it only got 170 horses doesnt it?
Toyota should atleast put 4 disk brakes on the Corolla XRS (or did they already??)


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oh shit...

Automotive News is the best information about this stuff..i read it every week and forgot to read the one from last night grin


Don't believe anything, but the facts... grin

plus, my dad never heard anything about any car being discontinued here...


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Re: Toyota Celica Lives on in 2005 [Re: DiabloGTS] #77612 Jan 6, 4:08pm Jan 6, 4:08pm
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Originally Posted by DiabloGTS
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newcelca? grin rofl

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it says that the celica is just getting a redisine, do you think that is the new action package? or do you think that the actual car will be changed alot?


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Re: Toyota Celica Lives on in 2005 [Re: NorwayGT] #77614 Jan 6, 4:19pm Jan 6, 4:19pm
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Originally Posted by NorwayGT
it says that the celica is just getting a redisine, do you think that is the new action package? or do you think that the actual car will be changed alot?


uh, its a FULL redesign..

meaning a new generation..8th...

new look, new everything.


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so when is the new action package that people were talking about coming?


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thats kinda good news to hear if the new celicas are faster and same weight.
wait til detroit auto show (april 04).
so the mr2 is discontinued cz its not listed there and they have their design for over 4 years. btw they are bringing back echo? i thought they stopped making echos.

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Originally Posted by stefanoc
thats kinda good news to hear if the new celicas are faster and same weight.
wait til detroit auto show (april 04).
so the mr2 is discontinued cz its not listed there and they have their design for over 4 years. btw they are bringing back echo? i thought they stopped making echos.


MR2 was discontinued and I am 100% sure on that...i read it a while back



Echo was never discontinued, but needs a refreshening.


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I sorta hope there isnt A LOT of changes visually then the 7th gen. IMO, the 7th gen is great looking, and the performance is what needs upgraded. I dont really know if I care for the 'concept' gen-8 thats floating on the net..looks funny.

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Originally Posted by LostAngel
I sorta hope there isnt A LOT of changes visually then the 7th gen. IMO, the 7th gen is great looking, and the performance is what needs upgraded. I dont really know if I care for the 'concept' gen-8 thats floating on the net..looks funny.


too bad that's only a CONCEPT...
it's going to look nothing like that
and I bet Toyota has great designers behind it.


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Originally Posted by DiabloGTS
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Originally Posted by DiabloGTS
Toyota to keep new product coming strong

The Lexus IS 300 has been a sales disappointment, but Lexus executives have said the next-generation will have coupe and convertible variants in addition to the sedan, likely to sharply increase volume.


If they put it under the toyota badge as the altezza it would have no problem selling, the prize is jacked up under the lexas brand.


Why would they want to bite into Camry/Solara sales? The Camry is the most successful platform Toyota sells, and the IS300 would definately cut into that market segment.


Bah their not even in the same class IMO. The Altezza/IS300 is badass platform, inline six... rear wheel drive.. simply perfect.


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Supposedly there will be a new action package for 2004, not sure though.

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I can't believe that the article calls the IS300 a "sales disapointment". I see as many of those floating around out there as I do BMW 325i's.

On one hand I hope the new Celica has a kickass engine (200+ HP), but on the other hand I'd be a little sad about having the "underpowered" model if it does.


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Originally Posted by RevMonster
I can't believe that the article calls the IS300 a "sales disapointment". I see as many of those floating around out there as I do BMW 325i's.

On one hand I hope the new Celica has a kickass engine (200+ HP), but on the other hand I'd be a little sad about having the "underpowered" model if it does.


it would have been more popular with the 2f2f crowd if they stayed true to the Altezza platform; turbocharged I-4 RWD. could have competed against that goddam srt-4 wtf


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Originally Posted by RevMonster
I can't believe that the article calls the IS300 a "sales disapointment". I see as many of those floating around out there as I do BMW 325i's.

On one hand I hope the new Celica has a kickass engine (200+ HP), but on the other hand I'd be a little sad about having the "underpowered" model if it does.


true that...i see those all over the place. and in any case..its a lexus, they're not supposed to sell like mustangs

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Originally Posted by RevMonster
on the other hand I'd be a little sad about having the "underpowered" model if it does.


damn it, i agree, the cocolla XRS is going to have the same power as my celica, which kind of sux...

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Its great to have a new celica for 2005, but I guess the most important thing is: Will it be sold on the North American market???


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Originally Posted by 7th_gen_celica
Its great to have a new celica for 2005, but I guess the most important thing is: Will it be sold on the North American market???


um, the title of this thread says LIVES ON in 2005...I think that's a yes, N.A.


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Originally Posted by ragingpaseo
Originally Posted by RevMonster
on the other hand I'd be a little sad about having the "underpowered" model if it does.


damn it, i agree, the cocolla XRS is going to have the same power as my celica, which kind of sux...


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Originally Posted by DiabloGTS
Originally Posted by ragingpaseo
Originally Posted by RevMonster
on the other hand I'd be a little sad about having the "underpowered" model if it does.


damn it, i agree, the cocolla XRS is going to have the same power as my celica, which kind of sux...


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sorry, but that does suck.

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