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DiabloGTS
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DiabloGTS Dec 31, 6:45am - #75768 

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Early 00 GTS vs Other MY

Just some weird things I noticed after driving in LilTig's GTS (both 6 spds)

She has Intake/exhaust and yet my car is louder than hers (mine is stock Intake/exhaust)

Also, my lift engages around 5400 RPM and is very smooth all the way to 8350 RPM, her's engages at 6K and is a kick in the pants. However, mine is faster confused

Just wondering if anyone knows why this could be. I looked around, and couldn't find anything. My car was built in 04/00

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andrews Dec 31, 7:06am - #75769 

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dose anyone have a fuel cut off when reaching high rpm's when engine is cold? is that normal?

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My Sixth Gear Dec 31, 9:06am - #75770 
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what year is hers and yours?

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LinkTallica Dec 31, 10:16am - #75771 

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this is very interesting i would also like to know this
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Speed4TheNeed Dec 31, 12:51pm - #75772 

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Originally Posted by andrews
dose anyone have a fuel cut off when reaching high rpm's when engine is cold? is that normal?


yes. so stop trying. wait until your engine is warm before you start high revving thumbsup
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Speed4TheNeed Dec 31, 12:53pm - #75773 

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i have an '00 gts and my lift engages around 5900-6k all the way up into the redline.

can't really help with comparing though...mine is the only celica i have ever driven.
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DiabloGTS Dec 31, 12:55pm - #75774 

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mines an 00 (like I said) and hers is an 03.

mine has like a little pull at 5K, then it pulls harder at 6K all the way past redline.

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Speed4TheNeed Dec 31, 12:57pm - #75775 

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^^yeah, mines the same.

i don't know how much faster mine would be against one of the new gts' though..theres a lack of celicas here (not that i'm complaining) and the gts models are even rarer. there are only 2 other celica gts' in my area and both are driven by people (do they just happen to be girls??) who could care less about peformance in my opinion.
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DiabloGTS Dec 31, 1:30pm - #75776 

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Is yours pre- 05/00 production?

I think they may have made some minor changes to the engine the same time they did the transmission because people weer blowing the engine back then with over revs from miss shifts.

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Speed4TheNeed Dec 31, 1:40pm - #75777 

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Originally Posted by DiabloGTS
Is yours pre- 05/00 production?

I think they may have made some minor changes to the engine the same time they did the transmission because people weer blowing the engine back then with over revs from miss shifts.


how can you tell? not familiar withe the 05/00 term.
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DiabloGTS Dec 31, 1:42pm - #75778 

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Originally Posted by sPeEd4tHeNeEd
Originally Posted by DiabloGTS
Is yours pre- 05/00 production?

I think they may have made some minor changes to the engine the same time they did the transmission because people weer blowing the engine back then with over revs from miss shifts.


how can you tell? not familiar withe the 05/00 term.


May 2000 (05/00)

That's when they made the change from the tight shift gates to the newer, wider gates. It says the production date on the driver side door frame.

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Jamey Dec 31, 1:51pm - #75779 

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Originally Posted by DiabloGTS
Originally Posted by sPeEd4tHeNeEd
Originally Posted by DiabloGTS
Is yours pre- 05/00 production?

I think they may have made some minor changes to the engine the same time they did the transmission because people weer blowing the engine back then with over revs from miss shifts.


how can you tell? not familiar withe the 05/00 term.


May 2000 (05/00)

That's when they made the change from the tight shift gates to the newer, wider gates. It says the production date on the driver side door frame.


I didn't think they changed the Gates until May/June 2001. Not in 2000.

That is why For the 01 you have to give you VIN number when ordering a short shifter.
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DiabloGTS Dec 31, 1:56pm - #75780 

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they made updates to the transmission and internal transaxel components in 2001, but I read somewhere (trying to find it) about the changes made in 05/00

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Speed4TheNeed Dec 31, 1:57pm - #75781 

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Originally Posted by DiabloGTS
Originally Posted by sPeEd4tHeNeEd
Originally Posted by DiabloGTS
Is yours pre- 05/00 production?

I think they may have made some minor changes to the engine the same time they did the transmission because people weer blowing the engine back then with over revs from miss shifts.


how can you tell? not familiar withe the 05/00 term.


May 2000 (05/00)

That's when they made the change from the tight shift gates to the newer, wider gates. It says the production date on the driver side door frame.


mines in the same boat as yours...my car was made in '99.
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Jamey Dec 31, 1:59pm - #75782 

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OIC, i was going to say because if you compare my shift gates to an late 01+ mine are very short!!! The late 01+ are so wide i fell like i am driving a truck!!!! rofl rofl
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DiabloGTS Dec 31, 2:00pm - #75783 

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# TC001-00 JUN 00 M/T, 6 Speed, Shift Spring - Update

That one is what I was referring to.

Does your car have the updated transaxel parts? Mine just got finished having that done under warranty, and it is driving a lot nicer. I have a TRD SS sitting in a box I can't use though. I'll have to tear both of the units apart and change the rods frown

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DiabloGTS Dec 31, 2:02pm - #75784 

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well, if you ever break your shift linkage Jamey, you are going to be shit out of luck, because toyota no longer manufactures the linkages from the 00-01 cars, they only make the linkage for the newer tranny.

If you put the new linkage on the older selector, it just breaks after about 1500 miles average use because the tighter gates put A LOT of stress on the cables.

I hope yours never break, the older tranny is better frown

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Jamey Dec 31, 2:04pm - #75785 

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Originally Posted by DiabloGTS
well, if you ever break your shift linkage Jamey, you are going to be shit out of luck, because toyota no longer manufactures the linkages from the 00-01 cars, they only make the linkage for the newer tranny.

If you put the new linkage on the older selector, it just breaks after about 1500 miles average use because the tighter gates put A LOT of stress on the cables.

I hope yours never break, the older tranny is better frown


Well my 2nd gear is grinding like a champ. My sychros are all but shot. I am waiting unitl the last min. to take it to the dealer to get it fixed. I don't want the new gates!!! cry cry cry
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DiabloGTS Dec 31, 2:06pm - #75786 

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the new gates make the car easier to drive.

Btw, the grinding you have isn't from the syncros, its from the cables.


I know, you're thinking WTF?! But trust me, my tranny would rind like a byotch. I picked it up from the dealer, and it doesn't grind. It also goes into 1st gear between 10-12 MPH...used to not go into first gear unless I was at a COMPLETE stop.

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Speed4TheNeed Dec 31, 2:06pm - #75787 

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my reverse likes to grind... thumbsdown
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Jamey Dec 31, 2:09pm - #75788 

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Originally Posted by DiabloGTS
the new gates make the car easier to drive.

Btw, the grinding you have isn't from the syncros, its from the cables.


I know, you're thinking WTF?! But trust me, my tranny would rind like a byotch. I picked it up from the dealer, and it doesn't grind. It also goes into 1st gear between 10-12 MPH...used to not go into first gear unless I was at a COMPLETE stop.


Did you have a short shifter when you took yours in?
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DiabloGTS Dec 31, 2:11pm - #75789 

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no, I had the TRD one and I took it out and replaced it with the stock one because my dealer would void my entire car for a single mod. But, I know that it's not the SS that breaks the cables tongue

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Jamey Dec 31, 2:16pm - #75790 

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Originally Posted by DiabloGTS
no, I had the TRD one and I took it out and replaced it with the stock one because my dealer would void my entire car for a single mod. But, I know that it's not the SS that breaks the cables tongue


So you think i should remove mine before i take it to the dealer then???
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DiabloGTS Dec 31, 2:35pm - #75791 

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Originally Posted by Jamey
Originally Posted by DiabloGTS
no, I had the TRD one and I took it out and replaced it with the stock one because my dealer would void my entire car for a single mod. But, I know that it's not the SS that breaks the cables tongue


So you think i should remove mine before i take it to the dealer then???


Well, my dealer is a notorious pain in the ass. If yours is cool, maybe not. But, I'd take it out just to be safe, because they could claim your SS "broke" your tranny, and not cover it under warranty

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