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kimchiman201 Dec 27, 3:42pm - #73689 
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Most HP from Exhaust

Hi umm i was jus wondering what exhaust will give you the most HP gain??? I heard Kazuma is good but is also illegal.
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isaac Dec 27, 3:45pm - #73690 
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kimchiman201 Dec 27, 5:56pm - #73691 
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thanx for the info thumbsup
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LinkTallica Dec 27, 8:47pm - #73692 

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TRD would give you a good gain
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fusi0n Dec 27, 9:08pm - #73693 
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TRD would give you good gains. but IMO i would get the Tanabe Super Racing Medallion. its like 0.2 HP less gain, but has a nicer tone and is louder.
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Celicaracer18 Dec 27, 10:17pm - #73694 

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isn't kazuma only illeagle in CA if you have a silencer
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Speed4TheNeed Dec 27, 11:15pm - #73695 

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Originally Posted by Celicaracer18
isn't kazuma only illeagle in CA if you have a silencer


you mean without one, right?

TRD will give you a ballpark figure of 5 horses, but its also less weight than most exhausts and the tip isnt overly large. thumbsup
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Speed4TheNeed Dec 27, 11:20pm - #73696 

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the new ultra medallion exhaust promises very good gains (untested in the above turbo magazine link). but i havnt seen a 3rd party dyno of it yet...so i won't recommend it as of now, but you might want to look into it.

if someone can scrape up a 3rd party dyno (not the manufacturers dyno) from a quality source, please post thumbsup
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Celicaracer18 Dec 27, 11:34pm - #73697 

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Originally Posted by sPeEd4tHeNeEd
Originally Posted by Celicaracer18
isn't kazuma only illeagle in CA if you have a silencer


you mean without one, right?

TRD will give you a ballpark figure of 5 horses, but its also less weight than most exhausts and the tip isnt overly large. thumbsup


i meant it's illeagle in Ca for carb, and everywhere else for just sound, so if you get a silencer then you should be ok out of CA right?

my pc screwed up, and that post was messed up hugely

and heard the kazuma had gains near 20hp (i think)

i like the veilside teardrop too because it's titanium and only weighs 8 pounds
(light weight stuff won't showup as gains on a dyno, just on the track)
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silver Dec 28, 3:16am - #73698 
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Originally Posted by Celicaracer18
Originally Posted by sPeEd4tHeNeEd
Originally Posted by Celicaracer18
isn't kazuma only illeagle in CA if you have a silencer


you mean without one, right?

TRD will give you a ballpark figure of 5 horses, but its also less weight than most exhausts and the tip isnt overly large. thumbsup


i meant it's illeagle in Ca for carb, and everywhere else for just sound, so if you get a silencer then you should be ok out of CA right?

my pc screwed up, and that post was messed up hugely

and heard the kazuma had gains near 20hp (i think)

i like the veilside teardrop too because it's titanium and only weighs 8 pounds
(light weight stuff won't showup as gains on a dyno, just on the track)


it should pass smog and all of that becuase the cat stays. its no different than any other exhaust, save for the fact that its extremely loud.
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Celicaracer18 Dec 28, 3:32am - #73699 

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Originally Posted by silver

Originally Posted by Celicaracer18

Originally Posted by sPeEd4tHeNeEd

Originally Posted by Celicaracer18

isn't kazuma only illeagle in CA if you have a silencer


you mean without one, right?

TRD will give you a ballpark figure of 5 horses, but its also less weight than most exhausts and the tip isnt overly large. thumbsup


i meant it's illeagle in Ca for carb, and everywhere else for just sound, so if you get a silencer then you should be ok out of CA right?

my pc screwed up, and that post was messed up hugely

and heard the kazuma had gains near 20hp (i think)

i like the veilside teardrop too because it's titanium and only weighs 8 pounds
(light weight stuff won't showup as gains on a dyno, just on the track)


it should pass smog and all of that becuase the cat stays. its no different than any other exhaust, save for the fact that its extremely loud.


actually the cat dosn't stay and the specs on it say not street legal, it also dosn't pass DB laws, but i think it can with a silencer
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Steven Dec 28, 3:55am - #73700 
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the piping that is supplied withthe kazuma goes up to the cat and does not replace it.

Originally Posted by Celicaracer18
Originally Posted by silver
Originally Posted by Celicaracer18
Originally Posted by sPeEd4tHeNeEd
[quote=Celicaracer18]isn't kazuma only illeagle in CA if you have a silencer


you mean without one, right?

TRD will give you a ballpark figure of 5 horses, but its also less weight than most exhausts and the tip isnt overly large. thumbsup


i meant it's illeagle in Ca for carb, and everywhere else for just sound, so if you get a silencer then you should be ok out of CA right?

my pc screwed up, and that post was messed up hugely

and heard the kazuma had gains near 20hp (i think)

i like the veilside teardrop too because it's titanium and only weighs 8 pounds
(light weight stuff won't showup as gains on a dyno, just on the track)


it should pass smog and all of that becuase the cat stays. its no different than any other exhaust, save for the fact that its extremely loud.


actually the cat dosn't stay and the specs on it say not street legal, it also dosn't pass DB laws, but i think it can with a silencer [/quote]
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Celicaracer18 Dec 28, 4:07am - #73701 

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i'm just going by this
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and by what i have been told on here, so if i am wrong and it is carb leagle, my point still stands
can't you make it legal (even in CA) with a silencer
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slidr Dec 28, 6:16am - #73702 

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Originally Posted by Celicaracer18
Originally Posted by silver
Originally Posted by Celicaracer18
Originally Posted by sPeEd4tHeNeEd
[quote=Celicaracer18]isn't kazuma only illeagle in CA if you have a silencer


you mean without one, right?

TRD will give you a ballpark figure of 5 horses, but its also less weight than most exhausts and the tip isnt overly large. thumbsup


i meant it's illeagle in Ca for carb, and everywhere else for just sound, so if you get a silencer then you should be ok out of CA right?

my pc screwed up, and that post was messed up hugely

and heard the kazuma had gains near 20hp (i think)

i like the veilside teardrop too because it's titanium and only weighs 8 pounds
(light weight stuff won't showup as gains on a dyno, just on the track)


it should pass smog and all of that becuase the cat stays. its no different than any other exhaust, save for the fact that its extremely loud.


actually the cat dosn't stay and the specs on it say not street legal, it also dosn't pass DB laws, but i think it can with a silencer [/quote]But putting a silencer on it would negate some hp, so you might as well go with the TRD.

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hybridcelica Dec 28, 3:39pm - #73703 
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Originally Posted by slidr
Originally Posted by Celicaracer18
Originally Posted by silver
Originally Posted by Celicaracer18
[quote=sPeEd4tHeNeEd][quote=Celicaracer18]isn't kazuma only illeagle in CA if you have a silencer


you mean without one, right?

TRD will give you a ballpark figure of 5 horses, but its also less weight than most exhausts and the tip isnt overly large. thumbsup


i meant it's illeagle in Ca for carb, and everywhere else for just sound, so if you get a silencer then you should be ok out of CA right?

my pc screwed up, and that post was messed up hugely

and heard the kazuma had gains near 20hp (i think)

i like the veilside teardrop too because it's titanium and only weighs 8 pounds
(light weight stuff won't showup as gains on a dyno, just on the track)


it should pass smog and all of that becuase the cat stays. its no different than any other exhaust, save for the fact that its extremely loud.


actually the cat dosn't stay and the specs on it say not street legal, it also dosn't pass DB laws, but i think it can with a silencer [/quote]But putting a silencer on it would negate some hp, so you might as well go with the TRD. [/quote]the key word here is "some" hp! a good silencer with a big bore would bring the db level down but not restrict flow that much to seriously effect hp gains.i'm betting a kazuma with a good silencer can still outperform the regular TRD(no resonator and center muffler pan account for a lot of restrictions)ps:the cat stays in on the kazuma,its illigal because of the db level,i think 95 db is the limit(not to sure though)

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Speed4TheNeed Dec 28, 6:11pm - #73704 

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it was my understanding that the kazuma was illegal for both emissions and for sound (as most racing exhausts are).

making it legal for sound will decrease its power gains (as already noted) and making it legal for emissions will even further decrease its power gains.

and it will not give you 20 extra horses...that is a factory rating with the ecu retuned. i havnt seen a dyno for it yet but most aftermarket exhausts run in the range of 5-8 horses gained...using this figure, making it street legal would be impractical. use kazuma for racing, then have another exhaust for daily driving (fairly simple to switch on and off..and several people do this)
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