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Selica81
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Selica81 Dec 27, 3:49am - #73556 
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yoko's or falken ?

Its about that time, gotta get a set of new tires. I think I've narrowed it down to the Falken Ziex ZE-512 or the Yokohama AVS ES100. I've read that the tread wear on the falken's (300) are a bit better than the yoko's (280, got these numbers from tiredirect.com) as far as performance is concerned which is the better.

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Steven
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Steven Dec 27, 4:17am - #73557 
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Go with the yoks because it has a better threadwear rating. The smaller the threadwear number, the stickier the tire. So smaller is better in terms of performance! But tire longetivity is opposite. The larger the number the longer the tire will last. It's a kind of a weird logic but it works. thumbsup
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Selica81
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Selica81 Dec 27, 4:41am - #73558 
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Everyone that has reviewed the yoko's have said that they are a great handling tire but the tread life on them absolutely sucks. As for the Falken's, they perform well and road noise is minimal, and the tread life is supposed to be much longer. Are the performance of both tires that much different?
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Steven Dec 27, 4:44am - #73559 
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Get the falken ze ziex 512's because they're what you're looking for. I have them on my stock GTS 16's right now and they're great. In my community, we don't get ANY snow and very little rain. I have not had any incidents of hydroplaning and the road noise is very minimul. They also have a lip so that it protects the rim if you hit a curb or pothole. It's a great tire for the $$$.
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DiabloGTS Dec 27, 4:49am - #73560 

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falken azenis sports or kumho supra ecsa 712's and call it a day thumbsup

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Speed4TheNeed Dec 27, 1:02pm - #73561 

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Originally Posted by Steven
Go with the yoks because it has a better threadwear rating. The smaller the threadwear number, the stickier the tire. So smaller is better in terms of performance! But tire longetivity is opposite. The larger the number the longer the tire will last. It's a kind of a weird logic but it works. thumbsup


just think of it as softer tires are sticker, but wear faster. harder tires are not as sticky, but last longer.
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CooKie_MoNsTeR2k Dec 27, 5:17pm - #73562 
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I love my falken 512's its like night and day compared to my old tires. Def recommend them. thumbsup
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AM03GT Dec 27, 7:01pm - #73563 
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my 0.02

AVS ES100 > Kumho Escta Supra 712

just made the switch and the Yoko's grab much harder in turns, great traction and handling...

however, if you need all-season, consumer reports rates the Falken Ziex as the #1 all-season performance tire, showing above average and great ratings in rain and hydrolplaning etc...

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Celicaracer18 Dec 28, 2:24am - #73564 

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i thought toyo had the best tires around confused
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