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IS IT POSSIBLE #58805 Nov 8, 8:34am Nov 8, 8:34am
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I've been doing some thinking about the gts engine (2zz) do any of you guy think that in our celica's we could fit a supra engine into it. cause i think the only thing the gts does not have is a good and hard engine. or has anyone know of anyone doing an engine swap in a 2000 celica

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you'd have to increase the size of the engine bay...

but, anything is possible with money!


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Re: IS IT POSSIBLE [Re: celicagts2000] #58807 Nov 8, 12:10pm Nov 8, 12:10pm
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The supra engine is a straight six and is used only in rear wheel drive cars. The only swap I have actually seen done is the 3sgte from the all trac turbo celica. Just an opinion, but you would probably gain just as much power and save money just building up the internals of your engine and adding a turbo or supercharger.

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there was that dude on NC.org that did the 3sgte transplant and pulled 549hp or something @ 29psi. There was a thread about this a while ago as well. might be worth your time. hope this helps! thumbsup

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Originally Posted by ev3
there was that dude on NC.org that did the 3sgte transplant and pulled 549hp or something @ 29psi. There was a thread about this a while ago as well. might be worth your time. hope this helps! thumbsup


yeah...crazy numbers.

Re: IS IT POSSIBLE [Re: celicagts2000] #58810 Nov 8, 8:20pm Nov 8, 8:20pm
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are you guys crazy!!! confused WHY would you want to put a motor in from a completly diff. car? I 've seen civics w/ integra motors, mustangs with 460ci bronco motors, and they all run like shit! just build the motor up or buy a new car, it will be a lot more reliable! you'll regret swaping em'


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Re: IS IT POSSIBLE [Re: JBing] #58811 Nov 8, 9:19pm Nov 8, 9:19pm
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Originally Posted by JBing

are you guys crazy!!! confused WHY would you want to put a motor in from a completly diff. car? I 've seen civics w/ integra motors, mustangs with 460ci bronco motors, and they all run like shit! just build the motor up or buy a new car, it will be a lot more reliable! you'll regret swaping em'


Please speak no more... First off 2jz would not fit. The 3sgte is looking to be the way, but for even more displacement one of those v6 corrola engines would be sweet, espially since you can get a TRD supercharger for em. Just gotta get inventive with the space in the engine bay.


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Re: IS IT POSSIBLE [Re: celicagts2000] #58812 Nov 9, 1:30am Nov 9, 1:30am
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were can i get more info on the all trac turbo eninge and about the 3sgte engine too. the onlying reson why i want to change the engine in the celi, is because out of all the import i think the celi look the best and since i already but all this work into the body of my ride i dont see a point in getting a new car.it just the reviews of the 2zz engine are not good i my self have been through 2 engine in 2yr of haveing my celi. for stupid shit to. that why i want to but a better engine in to my celi

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just look it up on google..i found out a lot about the 3sgte just by reading through a few sites. i dunnoe about going that way tho...coz i like the idea of lift. lol

Re: IS IT POSSIBLE [Re: celicagts2000] #58814 Nov 10, 1:53am Nov 10, 1:53am
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i've been looking at the 90-93 GT4 3S-TURBO MOTOR,but it's all wheel drive. so i was thinking that if i can find the hole car at a junk yard than i could just do the swap of every thing than i would have a 225hp AWD 2000 celica but the only problem i see my self haveing is the wiring,and i cant find an up graded turbo for this motor.how does this set sound?

Re: IS IT POSSIBLE [Re: celicagts2000] #58815 Nov 10, 5:27am Nov 10, 5:27am
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Just keep it FWD, it would take too much work for a AWD convertion.


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Re: IS IT POSSIBLE [Re: celicagts2000] #58816 Nov 10, 12:48pm Nov 10, 12:48pm
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i've thought about that too. but the only thing would be the traning how can you make a AWD traning become an FWD traing.know what i mean but i got abut a yr to save up for this. this will be my project for we i get back from irack.

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so how does it sound thumbsdown thumbsup

Re: IS IT POSSIBLE [Re: celicagts2000] #58818 Nov 13, 10:31am Nov 13, 10:31am
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Go to NC.org, Forced Induction Forum and look up the post about the 3G swap, I think it's on the second page. The only "Celi" to do a supra swap is the Chris Rado Drag Celica. The motor actually pushes into the passenger seat.

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You all are forgetting about one tiny thing called weight distribution. Do you know that a heavier engine will DESTROY the balance of your car. Go to the Honda forums and see if the HB's with H22 swaps can turn for shit!! rofl rofl

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2JZ-GTE is an inline 6 engine and rear wheel drive, compare your VVT-i inline 4 to that engine...


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This is a very hypothetical question. How hard would it be to find a gutted Supra? Why not just buy the whole damn thing? rolleyes


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Re: IS IT POSSIBLE [Re: celicagts2000] #58822 Nov 17, 8:09am Nov 17, 8:09am
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buy a 3rd gen 3sgte(more hp, higher reving capability)with a mr2 rear clip.you can use the tranny from the mr2. (some farication needs to be done with the mounts and Intake)and for those who are concerned about "lift" in the 2zzge its no comparison to the 3sgte's back breaking torque!even with a turbo kit,torque on the 2zzge doesnt go much over 185lb foot but on the 3sgte its over 225(depending on which gen)
i say go with the 2nd or 3rd gen 3sgte and mr2 tranny(celica transmissions for the 5sfe motor can work but the clutch has to be special ordered since the disc is bigger for the 3sgte as opposed to the 5sfe)


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Originally Posted by Death
Originally Posted by JBing
are you guys crazy!!! confused WHY would you want to put a motor in from a completly diff. car? I 've seen civics w/ integra motors, mustangs with 460ci bronco motors, and they all run like shit! just build the motor up or buy a new car, it will be a lot more reliable! you'll regret swaping em'


Please speak no more... First off 2jz would not fit. The 3sgte is looking to be the way, but for even more displacement one of those v6 corrola engines would be sweet, espially since you can get a TRD supercharger for em. Just gotta get inventive with the space in the engine bay.


you can get any engine into a celica, with money.

I could slap a jet engine in there...but it would cost a fortune to rebuild the front end/entire car


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what we used to do was disconect the shaft on the gt4 tranny and use it! but it will be vey difficult to use the gt4 tranny in the 7th gen celica(if you ever see one you'll know what i'm talking about!huge! the rear wheel shaft has a big housing that wraps around the back of the 3s and sticks out the back and it will not clear a lot of stuff on the 7th gen celica.2zzge tranny might work if the spline shaft is long enough,get machine shop to do a tranny plate.but the tranny would have to be babied(the 3sgte would make quick work of that tranny!)


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Originally Posted by Michael Aristide
You all are forgetting about one tiny thing called weight distribution. Do you know that a heavier engine will DESTROY the balance of your car. Go to the Honda forums and see if the HB's with H22 swaps can turn for shit!! rofl rofl


When you do a motor swap that big...it's usually for the straight line rolleyes If you want to turn and handle well, you redo the suspension, not motor

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Originally Posted by DiabloGTS
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Originally Posted by JBing
are you guys crazy!!! confused WHY would you want to put a motor in from a completly diff. car? I 've seen civics w/ integra motors, mustangs with 460ci bronco motors, and they all run like shit! just build the motor up or buy a new car, it will be a lot more reliable! you'll regret swaping em'


Please speak no more... First off 2jz would not fit. The 3sgte is looking to be the way, but for even more displacement one of those v6 corrola engines would be sweet, espially since you can get a TRD supercharger for em. Just gotta get inventive with the space in the engine bay.


you can get any engine into a celica, with money.

I could slap a jet engine in there...but it would cost a fortune to rebuild the front end/entire car


It wouldn't be a celica anymore if you did something like that.


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Originally Posted by JBing
are you guys crazy!!! confused WHY would you want to put a motor in from a completly diff. car? I 've seen civics w/ integra motors, mustangs with 460ci bronco motors, and they all run like shit! just build the motor up or buy a new car, it will be a lot more reliable! you'll regret swaping em'


You have seen those swaps cause they are fully possible, the engine bays are the same size or even bigger then where the engine is comming from, and if your swaping an engine its for speed, so you dont need any of those electronics anymore. Go all motor!!

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Originally Posted by celicagts2000
i've thought about that too. but the only thing would be the traning how can you make a AWD traning become an FWD traing.know what i mean but i got abut a yr to save up for this. this will be my project for we i get back from irack.
dont even think of using the gt4 tranny in the swapp! use the tranny from a turbo mr2 (1st choice) or the tranny from 90 up front drive celica gt with 5sfe motor.


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Originally Posted by JBing
are you guys crazy!!! confused WHY would you want to put a motor in from a completly diff. car? I 've seen civics w/ integra motors, mustangs with 460ci bronco motors, and they all run like shit! just build the motor up or buy a new car, it will be a lot more reliable! you'll regret swaping em'
some "hybrids" are for worse rather than for the best of the two.i had a 1987 corolla ae86 and transplanted a 3sgte from a gt4 celica into it.i took out the 3sgte and decided to put a built 1987 grand national motor into it,but abandoned the project because of weight distribution in the corolla it would have been terrible! so i used a 1993 celica instead.i guess it all comes down to reasoning.


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