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air ride vs. coilovers #58663 Nov 7, 2:13pm Nov 7, 2:13pm
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air ride vs. coilovers
hey guys, i was just wonderign what was the way to go performance wise. i checked out prices and i can get a complete suspension system with coilovers that can drop 5 inches for 1300 or air ride system that can dop 5 inches for 1500.

Re: air ride vs. coilovers [Re: extic] #58664 Nov 7, 2:15pm Nov 7, 2:15pm
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5 inches!!! eek


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Re: air ride vs. coilovers [Re: extic] #58665 Nov 7, 2:16pm Nov 7, 2:16pm
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If you want performance = coilovers

If you want a show car = air ride



Re: air ride vs. coilovers [Re: extic] #58666 Nov 7, 2:25pm Nov 7, 2:25pm
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Re: air ride vs. coilovers [Re: extic] #58667 Nov 7, 2:27pm Nov 7, 2:27pm
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What coilover system are you looking at???

Re: air ride vs. coilovers [Re: extic] #58668 Nov 7, 2:27pm Nov 7, 2:27pm

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i'd take the air ride
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Re: air ride vs. coilovers #58669 Nov 7, 2:29pm Nov 7, 2:29pm
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Originally Posted by Shinobi
i'd take the air ride
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For performance?????? confused confused

Air Ride sucks for performance!!!!!!!

Re: air ride vs. coilovers [Re: extic] #58670 Nov 7, 2:31pm Nov 7, 2:31pm

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no that was IMO

i have a GT auto so...show is the only way to go cry

Re: air ride vs. coilovers #58671 Nov 7, 2:35pm Nov 7, 2:35pm
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Originally Posted by Shinobi
no that was IMO

i have a GT auto so...show is the only way to go cry


You might want to put IMO then because he is asking which one for performance not for looks. thumbsup

Re: air ride vs. coilovers [Re: extic] #58672 Nov 7, 2:37pm Nov 7, 2:37pm

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lol yeah

i have a problem of not reading all of the post

Re: air ride vs. coilovers [Re: extic] #58673 Nov 7, 2:54pm Nov 7, 2:54pm
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Actually, air-ride suspensions (not hydraulics) are great for performance driving, if dialed in properly. With one of those Tien Dampening force controllers, you could dial in your entire suspension from the driver's seat. On street rods, a decent air ride system can work wonders.

However, realize you will need either an air compressor or an air tank (filled at an external compressor) for an air-ride suspension to work. tha will add weight to your car, big-time. A racer would want to use a small tank, fill it with a home-based air compressor, and dial in his supension prior to racing. tanks are lighter than compressors by far.

Hydraulics or air cylinders are not good at all, exept for show or low-rider stuff. Air Rides are lighter, more reliable, and can be accurately set, much like a coil-over (Air rides use "bags" made of rubber similar to that in performance tires, commonly seen on semi trucks, the bags are inflated or deflated to dial in the spring rate you want, the airbag replaces the spring in an air-ride setup; your strut is still there, unlike cylinders, which are pretty much the opposite)

For a dedicated racer where weight is an issue, I suggest coilovers, dialed in properly, one of these can perform as well, maybe even a bit better than a comparable air-ride setup.

One benifit to air bags, they can spring a leak, but they won't break like a steel spring. an airbag blowout isn't nearly as catastrophic, especcially if you have a compressor in your trunk.

It depends on if you are doing your suspension for convenience or not. with air-ride suspension, you can dial in suspension rate changes from the driver's seat in the middle of a race; try that with coilovers!




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Re: air ride vs. coilovers [Re: extic] #58674 Nov 7, 3:24pm Nov 7, 3:24pm
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Ok??? I'm not one to argue...but you show me how a celica wiht air ride is gonna pull 1.2 Gs ?? I think not..

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