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quick questions for vs body kit owners b4 i buy the kit! #44129 Sep 11, 3:19pm Sep 11, 3:19pm
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quick questions for vs body kit owners b4 i buy the kit!
hey guys i was just wondering how low does the veilside sit compare to the stock bumper and also how much longer does the veilside bumper elongate the car in the front. someone was telling me that the veilside bumper is a lot longer than the stock bumper, meaning it sticks out a lot and you r going to mess it up if you go over drive ways and it's gonna crack when you drive it in the snow. i think he said that the vs front bumper is about foot and a half longer than the stock bumper. please clarify this for me. thnx

edit: i also wanted to know that if the front bumper is longer than the stock one than how do the bottom engine protective covering bolts or gets connected to the bumper? is the bottom of the veilside elongated towards the inside as well for like a stock fit of the bottoms engine plastic parts? do you guys understand wut i'm asking? also it'll be great if i can get pics of underneath the front bumper just so i know wut it looks like, visually. thnx

Re: quick questions for vs body kit owners b4 i buy the kit! [Re: slik_gts] #44130 Sep 11, 5:31pm Sep 11, 5:31pm
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Veilside sits pretty low, I'm dropped about 1.5" and I have about 1.5"-2" of ground clearence. It sticks out probably an inch or two more. If it's snowing where you live I'd recommend you take it off and put your stock one back one, not only because of the height, but that it's fiberglass which is weaker then urathane (stuff stock bumper is made out of)

More then likly you're going to have to throw out your underbody plastics and wheelwells unless you fabricate something to hold onto the plastics. Alot of aftermarket bumpers don't have the holes the stock and TRD bumper have.

Re: quick questions for vs body kit owners b4 i buy the kit! [Re: SexyCelica] #44131 Sep 11, 5:38pm Sep 11, 5:38pm
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Originally Posted by SexyCelica
Veilside sits pretty low, I'm dropped about 1.5" and I have about 1.5"-2" of ground clearence. It sticks out probably an inch or two more. If it's snowing where you live I'd recommend you take it off and put your stock one back one, not only because of the height, but that it's fiberglass which is weaker then urathane (stuff stock bumper is made out of)

More then likly you're going to have to throw out your underbody plastics and wheelwells unless you fabricate something to hold onto the plastics. Alot of aftermarket bumpers don't have the holes the stock and TRD bumper have.


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Re: quick questions for vs body kit owners b4 i buy the kit! [Re: slik_gts] #44132 Sep 11, 6:41pm Sep 11, 6:41pm
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Re: quick questions for vs body kit owners b4 i buy the kit! [Re: slik_gts] #44133 Sep 11, 6:50pm Sep 11, 6:50pm
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ok well that's great to know and thnx for the info, but i was wondering how much lower does the veilside sit compared to the stock front bumper, and i will not lower my car nor is it already lowered. in other words how much clearance will i have off the ground for the front. thnx

Re: quick questions for vs body kit owners b4 i buy the kit! [Re: slik_gts] #44134 Sep 11, 7:04pm Sep 11, 7:04pm
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What part of MI you from?

Re: quick questions for vs body kit owners b4 i buy the kit! [Re: slik_gts] #44135 Sep 11, 7:34pm Sep 11, 7:34pm
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too far from u. i live in a suburb of detroit, called trenton. r you familiar w/ it?

Re: quick questions for vs body kit owners b4 i buy the kit! [Re: slik_gts] #44136 Sep 11, 7:38pm Sep 11, 7:38pm
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Heard of it. Never been there.

Re: quick questions for vs body kit owners b4 i buy the kit! [Re: slik_gts] #44137 Sep 11, 7:56pm Sep 11, 7:56pm
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I believe it's 2-3" now that I think of it, I'll double check tomorrow. I have no problems with speedbumps, but I already have two cracks from steep driveways. I'll be getting a WW lip for my next celica so I won't have to worry about that grin

Re: quick questions for vs body kit owners b4 i buy the kit! [Re: slik_gts] #44138 Sep 11, 8:24pm Sep 11, 8:24pm
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so for most body kits you hafta take out ur wheel well and underbody plastic? is that what ur saying?

if so, do you have a pic of ur wheel well without the plastic? does it affect anything by taking out the plastic and wheel well, i mean like will water affect anything at all?

Re: quick questions for vs body kit owners b4 i buy the kit! [Re: shox] #44139 Sep 12, 6:59am Sep 12, 6:59am
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Torn plastics that whole space is empty now

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Much bigger then my TRD bumper

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Notice how the bumper has no holes in it, everything has to be drilled



You'll get decresed power and lower gas milage from not having the underbody plastics, but it's not that big of a loss.



Re: quick questions for vs body kit owners b4 i buy the kit! [Re: slik_gts] #44140 Sep 12, 9:50am Sep 12, 9:50am
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And if you have CAI, that is definitely not a good thing.

Re: quick questions for vs body kit owners b4 i buy the kit! [Re: slik_gts] #44141 Sep 12, 10:28am Sep 12, 10:28am
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Well that kind of upsets me a little. I really want the wells covered up since any little bit of water on my engine causes my belt to squeak and now that I have to remove the plastics underneath I'm not so sure about getting a kit now. I'm thinking about getting a wings west kit. Do you know much about it in regards to having to take out the plastics or is it all pretty much universal for each kit? thanks

Re: quick questions for vs body kit owners b4 i buy the kit! [Re: slik_gts] #44142 Sep 12, 10:58am Sep 12, 10:58am
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alright guys thnx for all ur help i guess i'm not going to put the vs front, but i still like the sides and the rear. i saw a pic of vsgts's setup, w/ the blitz front and the rest is vs. i don't like the blitz bumper, would like to put a different bumper w/ the vs setup. so if you guys no of a nice looking front bumper that will sit pretty much even w/ the vs sides and rear, then lemme know. it doest have to be bumper it could be a lip, as well. i think the rmm lip sits even w/ the vs rear and sides. and the rmm lip shouldn't sit too low right and should look good w/ stock gts rims? lemme know wut you think? also wut do you think about the body kit in the below pic. how would that look w/ the stock rims. basically the front is a lip and the sides are replacement and the back has two seperate peices. lemme know ur opinion. thnx for the input and ur time!

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Re: quick questions for vs body kit owners b4 i buy the kit! [Re: slik_gts] #44143 Sep 12, 10:59am Sep 12, 10:59am
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here's the pic of the vizage body kit rear!

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Re: quick questions for vs body kit owners b4 i buy the kit! [Re: Bartiks] #44144 Sep 12, 11:07am Sep 12, 11:07am
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Originally Posted by Bartiks
Well that kind of upsets me a little. I really want the wells covered up since any little bit of water on my engine causes my belt to squeak and now that I have to remove the plastics underneath I'm not so sure about getting a kit now. I'm thinking about getting a wings west kit. Do you know much about it in regards to having to take out the plastics or is it all pretty much universal for each kit? thanks


Wings west is a lip so you can still have your stock plastics, good choice!

Re: quick questions for vs body kit owners b4 i buy the kit! [Re: slik_gts] #44145 Sep 12, 11:13am Sep 12, 11:13am
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Originally Posted by slik_gts
alright guys thnx for all ur help i guess i'm not going to put the vs front, but i still like the sides and the rear. i saw a pic of vsgts's setup, w/ the blitz front and the rest is vs. i don't like the blitz bumper, would like to put a different bumper w/ the vs setup. so if you guys no of a nice looking front bumper that will sit pretty much even w/ the vs sides and rear, then lemme know. it doest have to be bumper it could be a lip, as well. i think the rmm lip sits even w/ the vs rear and sides. and the rmm lip shouldn't sit too low right and should look good w/ stock gts rims? lemme know wut you think? also wut do you think about the body kit in the below pic. how would that look w/ the stock rims. basically the front is a lip and the sides are replacement and the back has two seperate peices. lemme know ur opinion. thnx for the input and ur time!


Tell ya the truth veilside doesn't look good unless you have 18s or bigger, but whatever floats your boat. I like RMM also, I've seen a celica with veilside sides and rear with an RMM lip and it looks pretty nice. Don't think you can drive around parking lots at 50+mph with the lip though, as long as you drive carefully you'll be ok with any kind of bumper

Re: quick questions for vs body kit owners b4 i buy the kit! [Re: slik_gts] #44146 Sep 12, 11:36am Sep 12, 11:36am
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yea i know, but you know you can be as careful as you want but once in a while you just have a mishap. yea but i agree the vs is too much of a hassle for me and i'm a freakin' sophomore at you of m and don't really have time to spend on my car or worry about these little things. that's y i just wanna put a body kit that i don't really have to worry about much w/. esp, because i parallel park my car everywhere on campus, even infront of my apt. so i don't wanna get n e thing that sticks out too much. the above vizage kit is a poly urethene kit and my best freinds brother owns noise and toys, one of the biggest and the most custom car shop in michigan. this place is awesome, and he's getting the kit for me for 300 and painting it for two hundred. so tell me plz, if this is going to look good on my silver car. because see every one has the ww or the TRD kit. i just wanna be different. i have about 10 celis around my area, and 4 of them have the action package and the rest are just stock. so i wanna get a different body kit and be noticed. so i thought this body kit looks unique. by getting ur opinion on this body kit, i can get an idea of wut ppl on the streets will think about the kit installed on my car. thnx guys, i know i'm asking too much, but i wanna make an informed decision and not waste my parents' money because they r giving this to me as a b-day present. so thnx, for you time and comments!!!

Re: quick questions for vs body kit owners b4 i buy the kit! [Re: slik_gts] #44147 Sep 12, 12:33pm Sep 12, 12:33pm
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here r the pics for the vizage body kit

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Re: quick questions for vs body kit owners b4 i buy the kit! [Re: slik_gts] #44148 Sep 12, 12:34pm Sep 12, 12:34pm
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here's the rear pic of the vizage body kit? so should i go ahead w/ this?

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Re: quick questions for vs body kit owners b4 i buy the kit! [Re: slik_gts] #44149 Sep 12, 1:39pm Sep 12, 1:39pm
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Looks nice, I never heard of it before, link?

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Re: quick questions for vs body kit owners b4 i buy the kit! [Re: slik_gts] #44151 Sep 12, 11:42pm Sep 12, 11:42pm
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sexycelica...errr...i dunnoe whats happened to your veilside front bar, but mine wa sall predrilled and yes, eventho the stock plastics were a little short since the veilside front bar is 'longer', my work shop fabricated some metal brackets and connected the metal brackets to the front bar and the original plastics (sorta like a bridge) free of charge! havent had any problems since and everyhting still looks great thumbsup

The difference might be that mine was a genuine which is made of FRP reinforced with fibreglass
Hope this helps!

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