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Turbos for GTS all read! #44004 Sep 11, 9:35am Sep 11, 9:35am
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Turbos for GTS all read!
I gotten my e-mail back that I sent to EIPTuning, and they said that the VVTL-I engine can produce 400hp with there Turbo, and for 5 grand for the Turbo kit, I dunno how much tho, but you'd have to have ur car shipped there, I believe they're located on the east cost Westminster MD, SO Celica GTS onwers that live in that area or near there, take ur car there and see what happens with that turbo kit on your car, but I dunno if the tranny can handle that much prower and tourqe but I wrote a E-mail to ask them if the tranny can handle it and what can we do to get it to handle that much power, and I havent gotten a reponse back, you all can check out there site if you dont have it, its http://www.eiptuning.com, and there e-mail addy is eiptuning@adelphia.net, Good luck to all who tries this, cause I'm going to try it myself. grin thumbsup

Re: Turbos for GTS all read! [Re: Kenred] #44005 Sep 11, 9:38am Sep 11, 9:38am
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For only 5 grand. E-SENT to them. eek

Re: Turbos for GTS all read! [Re: Kenred] #44006 Sep 11, 9:59am Sep 11, 9:59am
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"For only 5 grand!!"? Come on now, 5 grand is a LOT of money. Granted it's cheaper than any other mod that can produce that amount of power, but it's still hard to justify saying "only 5 grand"! Maybe if I win the lottery or get a unexpected $5.00 an hour raise or something... which brings up a whole new topic...would anyone be offended by a poll asking what you all do for a living?? Just a thought to get to know each other a little better. By the way, I'm a Steelworker, I rebuild HUGE machines that are in the steelmills all over the U.S. Bluecollar frown But at least I'm happy for now wink

Re: Turbos for GTS all read! [Re: Kenred] #44007 Sep 11, 10:05am Sep 11, 10:05am
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Yeah 5G's thats pretty damn spineyes ! Out of my price range... I get paid pretty well, Im a loan officer at a community bank... my problem is im not too good with money. Isnt that ironic! 5k is a bit much rite now. i would think having that much power would only bring many more problems anyway. wtf


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Re: Turbos for GTS all read! [Re: Kenred] #44008 Sep 11, 2:14pm Sep 11, 2:14pm
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Also does that include any internals? I could see you needing to completly build up the motor to handle this much power. But for 5 grand I would sell my body to some really hot girls...Oh, never mind I only need 3.5 g's cause I "only" have a gt.

Re: Turbos for GTS all read! [Re: redracer311] #44009 Sep 11, 2:26pm Sep 11, 2:26pm
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Originally Posted by redracer311
Also does that include any internals? I could see you needing to completly build up the motor to handle this much power. But for 5 grand I would sell my body to some really hot girls...Oh, never mind I only need 3.5 g's cause I "only" have a gt.


yeah me too. 5k is alot, but so is 400 hp. Imagine racing a z06, cobra, ss camaro, and killing them. grin grin

Re: Turbos for GTS all read! [Re: Kenred] #44010 Sep 11, 3:24pm Sep 11, 3:24pm
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does the turbo add 400hp to the stock 180? or is it a grand total of 400,if its 400 just for the turbo i'll trade my gt in for a gts right now grin

Re: Turbos for GTS all read! [Re: Kenred] #44011 Sep 11, 4:27pm Sep 11, 4:27pm
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actually, sorry to burst all your bubbles, but the eip tuning kit offers three stages.

There stage I is just turbo, and its the five thousand dollar one

There stage two includes and intercooler setup and its around eight thousand.

The stage three is the full setup. It has fully rebuilt block, standalone, all new fuel system, the works. But invovles you to send your car to them. but this kit costs well over 10000.

So all of you looking to get 400hp for 5g's is definately not gonna happen.


Re: Turbos for GTS all read! [Re: Changbang] #44012 Sep 11, 4:35pm Sep 11, 4:35pm
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Originally Posted by Changbang
actually, sorry to burst all your bubbles, but the eip tuning kit offers three stages.

There stage I is just turbo, and its the five thousand dollar one

There stage two includes and intercooler setup and its around eight thousand.

The stage three is the full setup. It has fully rebuilt block, standalone, all new fuel system, the works. But invovles you to send your car to them. but this kit costs well over 10000.

So all of you looking to get 400hp for 5g's is definately not gonna happen.



Sorry to bust YOUR bubble dudebuddie, but uh the e-mail I have says different

Re: Turbos for GTS all read! [Re: Kenred] #44013 Sep 11, 4:38pm Sep 11, 4:38pm
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must be a typo, go ahead and get your hopes up though

we'll see whose right,

Re: Turbos for GTS all read! [Re: Kenred] #44014 Sep 11, 4:45pm Sep 11, 4:45pm
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5k for 400hp would be deal of the century...around 10k+ sounds about right.

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Re: Turbos for GTS all read! [Re: Kenred] #44015 Sep 11, 4:50pm Sep 11, 4:50pm
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Re: Turbos for GTS all read! [Re: Kenred] #44016 Sep 11, 5:12pm Sep 11, 5:12pm
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Post the email.

Re: Turbos for GTS all read! [Re: Grand-Touring-Dan] #44017 Sep 12, 6:21am Sep 12, 6:21am
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Originally Posted by Grand-Touring-Dan
Post the email.


> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Kenneth
> To: eiptuning@adelphia.net
> Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2003 1:26 PM
> Subject: 2000 GTS 6speed
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> I have a question, a friend of mine told me about how you made a project Celica with a Stage 3 turbo and you all can grant the hp we want for the cars, well what if my Celica has 100,000.00 miles on it, would that effect anything, and how much hp can you get it to push, cause I wouldnt mind 360hp or maybe 400hp if possible, and how much would that run? and what all do I need to do to the Car before I have it shipped off, and when I do ship it off how long would it take?

>From: "eiptuning"
>To: "Kenneth"
>Subject: Re: 2000 GTS 6speed
>Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2003 10:06:59 -0400
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>Hi Ken,
>The mileage on your car will not have any effect if you are going with the stage 3 system. Our stage 3 system includes a motor build.You must purchase our stage 2 turbo system then upgrade to the stage 3.The pricing for stage 2 is $5595.00, stage 3 upgrade is $2995.00. Our stage 3 system is capable of making 400hp.Check out the systems on our website in the projects area.
>Thanks
>EIP Tuning

Re: Turbos for GTS all read! [Re: Kenred] #44018 Sep 12, 7:27am Sep 12, 7:27am
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Add those two numbers and you $8590, which is pretty close to 10g. If you have the money go for it and let us know how it goes. I've heard very bad things about EIP though look at this thread for details-http://www.newcelica.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=83565&highlight=eip

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... and then there's the installation costs on top of the 9g's.

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Re: Turbos for GTS all read! [Re: Kenred] #44021 Sep 12, 11:46pm Sep 12, 11:46pm
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plus if you dont live near by them, and dont wanna drive really far, you have to ship your car there which would run around $1,000 for there and back. And i wont say i was right, but...

Re: Turbos for GTS all read! [Re: Changbang] #44022 Sep 13, 11:32pm Sep 13, 11:32pm
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I dunno man, if you strap a turbo to the GTS that is putting out enough boost to make 400+ HP, I don't think the motor would last too long, not stock anyways. The compression is too high, boost levels would have to be conservative.

That setup would be their stage 3 setup, the engine work is required to lower the compression & beef up the internals. I wouldn't run much boost on a stock 2ZZ, you get a big kaboom!

The intercooler would help, you could run a boost level a little bit higher when intercooled, but for the 2ZZ to make power, you'd need dished pistons like the 1ZZ has (there are nice aftermarket 1ZZ pistons for this purpose, they will fit the 2ZZ block when used with 2ZZ rods)

Valvetrain would need to be beefed up a bit, forged main caps too.

BTW, the tranny will be okay, so long as you add a racing clutch & flywheel, and upgrade the CV axles to stronger aftermarket units. (Try http://www.islandmotorsports.com, they distribute Enjo cv axles that can handle that kind of power, You would need stage III axles, they're race-duty rated at 275 HP and up)


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Re: Turbos for GTS all read! [Re: Kenred] #44023 Sep 14, 7:32am Sep 14, 7:32am
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There must be an easier way to get reasonably high hp. What if you settle for just stage 2? What kind of hp would you expect from that?

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i called them about 3 months ago. they said the celica project was 13000 dollars in parts in labor.
they wanted 799/pistons 799/rods 999/piston sleeves they reran fuel lines upgraded fuelpump.. just about everything thing you could do to a car and the car they built is only running 322hp at the wheels @ 14 lbs of boost and only 276 at 9lbs. thats a lot of money for just 322hp. just my 2 cents worth

Re: Turbos for GTS all read! [Re: acilec] #44025 Sep 14, 10:54am Sep 14, 10:54am
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You can't just think in terms of numbers, remember we have a very light car. Some 2500 lbs. Think about the power to weight ratio if:

XS turbo: 2500 lbs / 250 whp = 10:1 ratio

EIP tuning(info extracted from below:
2500 lbs / 322 whp = 7.76:1 ratio

Stock HP: 2500 lbs / 160 whp = 15:1 ratio

Hopefully I did those calculations right. They aren't exact numbers but they should be close enough. Even with the stock lb to hp ratio is good. 322 whp will murder your rival and your tires wink


Originally Posted by acilec
i called them about 3 months ago. they said the celica project was 13000 dollars in parts in labor.
they wanted 799/pistons 799/rods 999/piston sleeves they reran fuel lines upgraded fuelpump.. just about everything thing you could do to a car and the car they built is only running 322hp at the wheels @ 14 lbs of boost and only 276 at 9lbs. thats a lot of money for just 322hp. just my 2 cents worth

Re: Turbos for GTS all read! [Re: Kenred] #44026 Sep 14, 12:34pm Sep 14, 12:34pm
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You'd have to change a lot more than the transmission to put 400hp in a car built for 180. Like a clutch and maybe breaks.


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