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jonnyess
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jonnyess Apr 11, 1:03pm - #439872 

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PAINT CHIPS

What the hell is it with Toyota's paint quality? I did my spring claying and buffing and polishing yesterday, and my black 02 looks tremendous - except for about 100 small chips in the front end (mostly bumper) which are extremely obvious now that the car is clean.

I walk by hundreds of cars each day in my corporate lot, and am constantly checking out other front ends for comparison. No other car, Buicks, Fords, Chevy, Honda, Mitsu, etc - has the same chipping problem. Many cars have similar shapes to the Celi, with low front end and spoiler, and still no chipping! These people drive in the same winter elements as I for chrissakes!!

Do I have to just plan on spending $250 for repainting every goddam spring, or is there something I'm missing here??

WTF?? angry

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tastingcolors Apr 11, 1:14pm - #439873 
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its not the paint that is chipping because of quality. it is usally from following cars too closley or on the highway this occurs alot. keep your distance especially behind big trucks.
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v4shj16 Apr 11, 7:48pm - #439874 

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Yea my front bumper looks horrible, i hate it. no matter how many times i wash it , it still looks the same
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unstopable Apr 12, 5:37am - #439875 
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yeah same here my front bumper is fucked. Black is beatiful but damn IT! CHIPS SUCK
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cloakedpegasus Apr 12, 5:44am - #439876 
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pshh... my front bumper and front part of Hood looks like it's been snowed on. (carbon blue)
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20celica00 Apr 12, 5:47am - #439877 

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yeah man... my front end of my black celica is terrible... im planning on having my License Plate relocated and repainting the front bumper... i might also have my Hood painted or get a carbon fiber Hood thumbsup
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GTaintsobad Apr 12, 5:52am - #439878 

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my red celica is REALLY bad - I tried to get them to warranty it, with no luck of course. After the car was 4 months old, it was taken to the dealer because it had more chips then cars we had for 4 years. Toyota doesn't consider stone chips as a sign of defective paint - but, if the paint was old, or if it wasn't cured properly, it will be weaker and chip more easily. My car is now going on 5 years old, and the whole thing is covered in chips, even the doors, back spoiler.. it all needs to be repainted. Shitty.
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brandon_k_w Apr 12, 6:56am - #439879 
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My front is chipped up pretty bad also, so I ordered some of this to try and fix most of the chips myself:

OEM Toyota Paint tube http://www.brandsport.com/toy-00258-001d0.html

And the paint repair kit http://www.brandsport.com/plik-4503.html
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jonnyess
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jonnyess Apr 12, 12:50pm - #439880 

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Originally Posted by tastingcolors
its not the paint that is chipping because of quality. it is usally from following cars too closley or on the highway this occurs alot. keep your distance especially behind big trucks.


I still don't get it...so NONE of these hundreds and hundreds of other cars I check out each day drive on these crowded CT highways, or follow trucks? I impore you - WTF??

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snipe12 Apr 12, 3:43pm - #439881 
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Mine is the same. My previous BMW was bad but not as bad as this. My 13 year old Peugeot 205 GTI has about 3. The Toyota has gotten more than that in the last month!

Paint thickness has a lot to do with it and you would be surprised how much extra paint it takes to do a car with a decent coat. Times that by the amount of cars companies like Toyota sell and we are talking serious money.

I just wish the cheap bastards would do it properly and then include it in the price or just take the hit out of the profit.

I think I will give Chips away a ring and get them to sort them out.
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GTQuentin Apr 12, 5:58pm - #439882 

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yep. alredy had the Hood and front bumper painted. its life. just man up and deal w/it
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SleekAh Apr 12, 7:54pm - #439883 

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I have stone chips all over my front bumper (I actually stopped waxing it because it filled in with a ton of white spots every time, looked terrible) and my Hood is actually starting to rust a bit in one spot. I've got a new kit going on right now, and rather than pay to repaint the Hood I think I'm just gonna get a carbon fibre one when the rust gets visible. It's so sad... frown

Is anyone else having problems with rust around the windshield? I was told it was from stone chips... I don't have rust anywhere else (except where it looks like it's starting in one spot on the Hood) but there are about 10 spots around my windshield. Weird...
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jonnyess Apr 12, 7:59pm - #439884 

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I just heard my local Toyo dealer body shop has a vendor that does the 3M clear bra installation. Will be checking that out later this week fo sure thumbsup

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SunburstCelica Apr 14, 12:55am - #439885 

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I can stand by the 3M clear 100%. It's well worth the money. Any questions don't hesitate to ask or PM.
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unstopable Apr 14, 5:29am - #439886 
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i used that turtle wax and chip stick thing. The wax is dull and that other shit didnt even really work. thumbsdown
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sweetnuts4sale Apr 14, 5:45am - #439887 
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Originally Posted by SunburstCelica
I can stand by the 3M clear 100%. It's well worth the money. Any questions don't hesitate to ask or PM.


do you have pics you can post of what is looks like on your car?
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RookieGTS Apr 14, 6:03am - #439888 

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Originally Posted by cloakedpegasus

pshh... my front bumper and front part of hood looks like it's been snowed on. (carbon blue)


yeah thats how it is with mine but on my front bumper,it fucken sucks! thumbsdown
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JuL Apr 14, 6:43am - #439889 

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I got the same problem on my bumper but my Hood is even worst, and the moron who had the car before me did a touch up trying to make those chips look better but he used the wrong paint color... Good fucking job ! angry

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GTSdrifter Apr 14, 8:21am - #439890 

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well i have a white celica... n you kno wut color the bumper is under that paint?... its BLACK...

how do i kno this... because i have a shitload of bumper acne and the white and black contrast pretty well so theyre all pretty visible thumbsdown
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lambbbo Apr 14, 12:07pm - #439891 
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Mother's makes a product ( i haven't used it but hear it's great) for chips. You put a tiny dab of the touch up paint on the problem spot, then use the Mother's product which will take off the excess touch up paint, buff, wax, and you're done. I'm going to try and find it cause my front end looks just as sh##tty as the rest of yours...
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jonnyess Apr 14, 2:09pm - #439892 

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Originally Posted by GTSdrifter
well i have a white celica... n you kno wut color the bumper is under that paint?... its BLACK...

how do i kno this... because i have a shitload of bumper acne and the white and black contrast pretty well so theyre all pretty visible thumbsdown


WTF - i have a black celi...you know what color the bumper is under that paint?...its WHITE...

I just don't get it...! again - W T F????

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jonnyess Apr 14, 2:14pm - #439893 

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Originally Posted by sweetnuts4sale
Originally Posted by SunburstCelica
I can stand by the 3M clear 100%. It's well worth the money. Any questions don't hesitate to ask or PM.


do you have pics you can post of what is looks like on your car?


ummm...my guess is:

THERE'S NOTHING TO SEE HERE!!! spineyes wink

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Chelica815 Apr 14, 5:27pm - #439894 
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Yea, I never get that. Light colored cars like Silver, White, and etc. have black colored parts underneath the paint. But Black cars, have white colored parts underneath its paint, wtf!

In any car, Toyota paint quality is shit. I was cleaning it once with Langka to get rid of excess touch up paint, and the f*cking OEM paint chipped off. I complaint to Langka and they said it will not harm an OEM paint and it was prolly done by a 3rd party mom and pop crap quality paint job. I was like, NO, it is an OEM paint. Hmmm...

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jonnyess Apr 14, 7:17pm - #439895 

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Originally Posted by Chelica815
Yea, I never get that. Light colored cars like Silver, White, and etc. have black colored parts underneath the paint. But Black cars, have white colored parts underneath its paint, wtf!

In any car, Toyota paint quality is shit. I was cleaning it once with Langka to get rid of excess touch up paint, and the f*cking OEM paint chipped off. I complaint to Langka and they said it will not harm an OEM paint and it was prolly done by a 3rd party mom and pop crap quality paint job. I was like, NO, it is an OEM paint. Hmmm...


I got Langka last year at Isaac's rec, wasn't terribly impressed with the results. It's not a rocket science to apply so maybe i'm just a damn perfectionist. I spent Sunday dabbing 100+ (yep 100+) paint chips w my black 202 touchup paint. I'm can't be doing this every spring, and cant have my car looking like doggy doo either.

Spoke with my local yota dealer this morning - they have a 3M vendor in 2x monthly to install clear bra. I'm gonna stop in next week and look at some of he finished product before I spend $500, but have a pretty good understanding the results are impressive

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snipe12 Apr 14, 10:40pm - #439896 
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For $500 I would pay a pro to come sort it. In England we have a company called chips away who repair chips obviously and do it for about 100 a time ($170 ish) so no way is that 3m stuff worth it. Having seen pictures of cars with it you can so tell as well.
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GTSdrifter Apr 14, 10:49pm - #439897 

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Originally Posted by jonnyess
Originally Posted by GTSdrifter
well i have a white celica... n you kno wut color the bumper is under that paint?... its BLACK...

how do i kno this... because i have a shitload of bumper acne and the white and black contrast pretty well so theyre all pretty visible thumbsdown


WTF - i have a black celi...you know what color the bumper is under that paint?...its WHITE...

I just don't get it...! again - W T F????


We both got the shaft on this one thumbsdown
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shonen Apr 15, 6:59pm - #439898 
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thats the bumpers primer, having an opposite color primer well contrast with the paint and make the paint look brighter. Just try painting white paint on top of white primer and compare it with paint on black primer, the black primered paint should look brighter.
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dansgts Apr 16, 5:42pm - #439899 

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toyota bumper paint sucks, look at many old cars, the paint on the bumpers goes to hell easily. i just repainted mine because it got so bad.
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eric_h Apr 17, 8:01pm - #439900 

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i havent read all the posts but i can relate with all the people whos front end is fucked, looks like it has tons of tiny chips and i have tried to fill in al lthe big ones but more and more come every day, guess theres nothign we can do cept someone a while back had a clear bra... cantremember where he got it or if it worked but its an idea

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johnsmet Apr 17, 11:57pm - #439901 
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whats a bra? (Im dutch...)

And dont make the breast joke...
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DMyles Oct 6, 12:43am - #447910 

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Im not having many bad chips on my actual bumper, but on my body kit, thats a different story. I have touched it up twice with black automotive paint (jet black car) and everyday I drive it I feel like I need to touch it up again. Now I realize this does not have to do with the car or Toyota paint jobs but it still makes me mad! Unfortunately the kit is death gripped on there, so it fits nice, but is never coming off. smirk
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