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Apr 6, 3:35pm - #436439 
What is Lift...I dont have a Celica and I hear it all the time

I have been wondering what this lift everyone keeps talking about. I never heard of it before and really like to know what the hell it is

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Apr 6, 3:39pm - #436440 
lift is something that gts have not gt


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Apr 6, 3:42pm - #436441 
Umm yea that didnt help me one bit...WTF is it...explain it...I have a TAcoma XRunner not a celica...I have no idea what lift is

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Apr 6, 3:42pm - #436442 
ya basically...its a 40 HP gain at 6000 RPM's to redline...


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Apr 6, 3:51pm - #436443 
kinda like v-tec but better


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Apr 6, 3:53pm - #436444 
DAMN I got VVT-i why dont i have lift...I want that extra 40hp...take me up to 290hp smile

Well these are not very good explinations on what it is...i would like to know how it works

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Apr 6, 3:53pm - #436445 
Originally Posted by drivethru1986
ya basically...its a 40 HP gain at 6000 RPM's to redline...
wtf


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Apr 6, 3:54pm - #436446 
all these answers are just the basics to it... rofl

here we go 05CRunner rofl j/k tongue grin

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Apr 6, 3:55pm - #436447 
oh, in short, [b] LIFT, it's a kick in the pants. rice thumbsup


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Apr 6, 3:56pm - #436448 
its not an extra 40 horses, the vvtli engined is designed to allow the driver to go further into power band thus being able to use more power...or something like that, I drive a GT spineyes so i'm not technelogicly sure exactly how to say it


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Apr 6, 3:56pm - #436449 
Originally Posted by Zero
all these answers are just the basics to it... rofl

here we go 05CRunner rofl j/k tongue grin

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Apr 6, 3:57pm - #436450 
Hey, 5XRunner, is that you doing the burnout in your avatar.


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Apr 6, 3:57pm - #436451 
Originally Posted by Zero
oh, in short, [b] LIFT, it's a kick in the pants. rice thumbsup

In short my 285lb trq is a kick in the pants to smokin

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Apr 6, 3:59pm - #436452 
NOOOOOO...its from www.sporttruck.com on the 2005 sport truck of the year write up..and yes the XRunner wont hat award. I have Potenza RE050A 255/45/18 tires on it...I would never do a burn out..only have a 23,000mile life on hem rating I cant afford 220 a tire right now for new ones

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Apr 6, 3:59pm - #436453 
Originally Posted by RetroJ84
Originally Posted by drivethru1986
ya basically...its a 40 HP gain at 6000 RPM's to redline...
wtf



ill admit its a little vague but when it comes down to it...what does lift produce...the extra 40 HP that toyota quotes when quoting HP numbers...so i wasnt wrong...just vague as hell...and what zero said is right to...a kick in the pants thumbsup...just at 6000 RPM's

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Apr 6, 4:02pm - #436454 
Originally Posted by RetroJ84
its not an extra 40 horses, the vvtli engined is designed to allow the driver to go further into power band thus being able to use more power...or something like that, I drive a GT spineyes so i'm not technelogicly sure exactly how to say it


ill be honest i dont know EXACTLY how to describe it...right but in your GT when you hit 6000 RPM's do you get the power boost...nope...i mean its not like wow 40 HP gain...but like you def. feel it

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Apr 6, 4:02pm - #436455 
Originally Posted by Lasherccl

kinda like v-tec but better


almost same concept technology... there's no proof which is better...


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Apr 6, 4:03pm - #436456 
Originally Posted by drivethru1986
Originally Posted by RetroJ84
Originally Posted by drivethru1986
ya basically...its a 40 HP gain at 6000 RPM's to redline...
wtf



ill admit its a little vague but when it comes down to it...what does lift produce...the extra 40 HP that toyota quotes when quoting HP numbers...so i wasnt wrong...just vague as hell...and what zero said is right to...a kick in the pants thumbsup...just at 6000 RPM's

Must be nice going that high...my redline is 5400...LOL but i got MUCHO power and lots of lowend wave thumbsup

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Apr 6, 4:07pm - #436457 
AHHHHH well its still an awsome day outside and my truck is all nice and clean...Time to go take a drive and look at all the little hoes walking in the parks...LOL

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Apr 6, 4:18pm - #436458 
VTEC and VVTL-i are similar, but even honda owners have admitted that the sound of LIFT kicking in is much more crazier than when Vtec kicks in. rice thank you Yamaha thumbsup


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Apr 6, 4:22pm - #436459 
mr tacoma man...
wait for the supercharger for the X Runner, it's going to put it at 300 hp


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Apr 6, 4:25pm - #436460 
I get grouchy if I don't hit lift at least twice a day! Exhilarating to say the least, those who have not felt it, need to! thumbsup wave


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Apr 6, 5:25pm - #436461 
lift is that funny feeling in my pants...


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Apr 6, 5:31pm - #436462 
Well there is no S/C in development right now from TRD it was a lie. URD is working on a Twin Turbo kit I am thinking about...Thats about 400hp

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Apr 6, 6:42pm - #436463 
VVTi = Variable Valve Timing (What GT's & your truck has)
VVTi-L = ABOVE plus valve lift

The valves actually have variable amounts of opening and duration on top of variable valve timing. It makes a huge diff when your reving real high. Not useful for engines without very high redlines. The new V-Tech-i is similar.

I hope mya half ass explanation works?

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Apr 6, 6:44pm - #436464 
yea that works for me...Guess I def wont have it..since my redline is 5400 and tac only goes to 7grand

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Apr 6, 6:48pm - #436465 
Yeah guys sorta got it. There's been lots of explanations...but actually...if you look at the dynos...

LIFT gives you about 25 hp at about 6200rpm's and maintains it to redline ~8350rpm. the total 40hp difference between the GT and the GTS is also caused by the fact that GT's have a 10.0:1 compression ratio and the GTS has 11.5:1 compression ratio.

if your XRunner could rev high enough for lift to be useful...that would be absolutely sick

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Apr 6, 6:53pm - #436466 
well i never heard atruck motor going that high...Plus you can tell from the design of the motor it is not made for high revs...It has a real slow rev and revdown it reminds me ALOT like mustang gt's how they have a slower rev.
When a light flywheel comesout...I am def going for it

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Apr 6, 6:56pm - #436467 
yeah your truck is sick...I saw a couple road test show thingers on it...def. look really fun. and obviously it's not made for higher revs...BUT some race mustang GT's rev up to 7k. It's risky as hell...but well w/e no point there..lol. SWEET TRUCK thumbsup

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Apr 6, 6:58pm - #436468 
Yea...The truck wasnt really designed for drag..it was made for the corners...I love the fact that it pulls over .9g not that i ever drive that way but still...:)
It gets ALOT of looks to...I like it cause its unique cause there are like NONE on the road...so I am like the only one in the pittsburgh area really. I wish it had a 48v 3.8 V8 that comes in a 355...hahahahahaha that would be and sound sooooooo sick

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Apr 6, 7:04pm - #436469 
Hey, you got a PS2 or Gran Turismo 4? If not, I suggest you check it out. Why you ask? This is why: Linked Image


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Apr 6, 7:05pm - #436470 
HAHAHAHAHAHA my X on GT4 has 534HP...Game kinda pissed me off..I had no intnetion to really do much...but after playing and all that HP...I started wanting more and more for my real truck

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Apr 6, 7:08pm - #436471 
Cool. I think I'm gonna go play the game. I'm in the middle of the Supercar Challenge using my Skyline GT-R Vspec with 820 hp.


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Apr 6, 7:09pm - #436472 
alright then. so how much quicker is a gts than a gt. i have a gt. i supposedly can get off the line quicker b/c the low end torque is better. if you only get the extra boost at 6200 rpm's or so, then what's the big difference. what would you gain... a couple of feet... that is, after you get to 6200 rpm's. i would think it would be about the same. i've also heard from someone on here that they had a gt that beat a gts. how many people have raced each other? and what were the outcomes?

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Apr 6, 7:13pm - #436473 
Originally Posted by trikdcelica
alright then. so how much quicker is a gts than a gt. i have a gt. i supposedly can get off the line quicker b/c the low end torque is better. if you only get the extra boost at 6200 rpm's or so, then what's the big difference. what would you gain... a couple of feet... that is, after you get to 6200 rpm's. i would think it would be about the same. i've also heard from someone on here that they had a gt that beat a gts. how many people have raced each other? and what were the outcomes?


The GTS has higher compression. Its going to have a larger powerband of HP vs a GT...I think a GTS should be ahead of a GT from the get go..plus the fast of having like extra 40hp

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Apr 6, 7:37pm - #436474 
Originally Posted by 05XRunner
Originally Posted by trikdcelica
alright then. so how much quicker is a gts than a gt. i have a gt. i supposedly can get off the line quicker b/c the low end torque is better. if you only get the extra boost at 6200 rpm's or so, then what's the big difference. what would you gain... a couple of feet... that is, after you get to 6200 rpm's. i would think it would be about the same. i've also heard from someone on here that they had a gt that beat a gts. how many people have raced each other? and what were the outcomes?


The GTS has higher compression. Its going to have a larger powerband of HP vs a GT...I think a GTS should be ahead of a GT from the get go..plus the fast of having like extra 40hp



it also has a diffrent bore and stroke compared to the gts short stoke large bore compared to long stroke and short bore ones great for reving higher casue the pistons travel less distance which = the fact that below 4k the gts blows


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Apr 6, 7:41pm - #436475 
Dont matter...look at it this way..My old non turbo 3000gt had 10:1 compression then the twin turbo model...wich had 8.5:1 now that car didnt make any power really till those turbos boosted in. It is no comparison on the VR4 would beat the non turbo..that lift is kinda same thing...It makes all its power to go passing by when its power does kick in

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Apr 6, 7:47pm - #436476 


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yoru such a clown, i wish you lived in nyc, i would love to just give you the beating that youve probably never gotten in your life.
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Apr 6, 8:07pm - #436477 


youre way behind CT, way behind rofl look up at my first post in this thread.

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Originally Posted by Zero

all these answers are just the basics to it... rofl

here we go 05CRunner rofl j/k tongue grin

https://www.celicahobby.com/ubbthreads/thread.f_158777_0_collapsed_5__1.html

Hey pecker i had them correct that hit lollol


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Apr 6, 9:26pm - #436478 
dammit... rofl


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Apr 6, 10:42pm - #436479 
Lift is something that 2x $.60 cents bolts can f*ck up if they break.

Lift can't be described but should be experienced by all Celica drivers.


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Apr 6, 11:08pm - #436480 
Originally Posted by Chelica815
Lift is something that 2x $.60 cents bolts can f*ck up if they break.

Lift can't be described but should be experienced by all Celica drivers.


and all matrix, corolla, mrs, and elise owners. eek rofl


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Apr 6, 11:33pm - #436481 
lol, I know, but I am talking about Celica drivers since it is EverythingCelica.


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Apr 6, 11:36pm - #436482 
imagine...everything2zzge.com spineyes


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Apr 6, 11:59pm - #436483 
Originally Posted by Zero
imagine...everything2zzge.com spineyes


Haha, but I like Celica GT. I love the Auto GT. I remember one time I wanted to trade my 6 Speed GTS for another Auto GT because I like cruising in one.


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Apr 7, 3:52am - #436484 
Originally Posted by 05XRunner
Well there is no S/C in development right now from TRD it was a lie. URD is working on a Twin Turbo kit I am thinking about...Thats about 400hp


are you serious


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Apr 7, 5:59am - #436485 
its basically a cam profile change at 6000 rpm test drive one and find out for yourself itll make you want one


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Apr 7, 6:07am - #436486 
Originally Posted by celicadragon
its basically a cam profile change at 6000 rpm test drive one and find out for yourself itll make you want one


hahahahahaha NOOOO. I cant afford to want something else...I pay 491 month now for my truck..Then pay for my house and all that...I think i will take your word for it

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Apr 7, 9:18am - #436487 
your missing out happywink

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Apr 7, 9:19am - #436488 
Originally Posted by justin
your missing out happywink


I think i am doing just fine...my 250HP and 285lb trq keep me plenty happy

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