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Apr 5, 11:07am - #435565 
What kinda engine do you like?

Alright, let's switch from the mod opinion/questions to some discussion.

What kind of engine do YOU prefer? Think in terms of power, price, reliability, etc. I'll drop custom engines not in mass production.

Inline-4(T)
Flat 4(T)

Inline 5(T)
^^Think Volvo

Inline 6(TT, T)
V6(TT, T)

V8

V10

V12

For me, engine over 8 is too thirsty and too suspectible to performance damage, given their uses. 4's don't provide enough power for me. I'm gonna stick with my Toyota roots and choose the I-6. It's a medium that is very flexible and extremely successful in luxo-performance vehicles. I.E. Supra, 3 series, M3, IS300.

Now how bout you guys? Please state a reason, it'll make discussion better.


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Apr 5, 12:05pm - #435566 
I6 for me.
Easier to fabricate the manifolds and route the IC pipe for turbo.
Hot on one side and cold on the other side.
BTW, you might wanna include W engine too.


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Apr 5, 12:10pm - #435567 
Rotary

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Apr 5, 1:08pm - #435568 
yea you forgot Rotart, Flat 6, and W-16.

My personal favorite is the W-16tttt on the bugatti wink Bur ewalistically my fav is flat 6 in the GT2 thumbsup Always been a porsche fan thumbsup

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Apr 5, 1:25pm - #435569 
i honestly dont know exactly why i like i-4 cyl so much


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Apr 5, 1:31pm - #435570 
Inline 6..TT thumbsup

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Apr 5, 1:54pm - #435571 
Also forgot horizontally opposed 4 cylcinders, also called boxer engines, like those in Subarus. Also forgot the 15 degree-V6, or VR6 from VW. I like I-4 for its weight, but I think the idea of the rotary is probably my favorite. It seems so practical, yet there is only one production car in the USDM that has one. That and the L6 (linear) I like, but mostly because of the 2JZ-GTE and the one in the new 3-series.


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Apr 5, 2:22pm - #435572 
^^Horizontal = flat

Anything not Inline or flat is V. I forgot rotary and W. Added now.


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Apr 5, 2:52pm - #435573 
Inline 4 (DOHC). I like the fuel mileage you get out of a small 4 in a light car like the Celica. Still has plenty of power for me, too.


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Apr 5, 2:55pm - #435574 
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Apr 5, 3:35pm - #435575 
What about the inline 3 Geo Metro engine? rofl

My favrote engine is the Wankel Rotery Engine. Or any Rotery Engine for that matter. They are so practical. The entire engine is creating power instead of a few pistons. It seems like it could be engineered to be almost perfect.

I also like the new hydrogen engines but I dont know much about them.

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Apr 5, 3:44pm - #435576 
BTW, I couldn't edit the list, time was up.

Hybrid engines are cool. I'd recommend it to someone, but I wouldn't drive one.


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Apr 5, 5:03pm - #435577 
flat 6's have AMAZING power for their size

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Apr 5, 7:15pm - #435578 
Originally Posted by jyboygenius
^^Horizontal = flat


Aren't flats all in one direction, like:
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Whereas a boxer is:
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Apr 5, 7:18pm - #435579 
I like the I-4, just because it's so simple and small. But for the power, V-6 is perfect...

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Apr 5, 7:24pm - #435580 
What about the V2 found in the Citroen 2CV...

Or V4 found in older european Fords and Saabs?

For me, I stick to the inline 4. Wish I could replace my 1zz-fe 1.8 with a 2.4 1zz-fe ...


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Apr 5, 7:57pm - #435581 
Originally Posted by combatc87
Originally Posted by jyboygenius
^^Horizontal = flat


Aren't flats all in one direction, like:
>
>
>
>
>
>

Whereas a boxer is:
>
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???


Nope. Flat and horizontal are synonmyous terms. Same thing.


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Apr 5, 10:04pm - #435582 
Originally Posted by combatc87
Aren't flats all in one direction, like:
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>
>
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Which car has that setup?


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Apr 5, 10:21pm - #435583 
Subarus, porsches, I'm 99% sure Ferrari is devloping a flat-12.


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Apr 5, 10:27pm - #435584 
I meant what car has flat engine that has all pistons push in the same direction?
Subies and Porsches have boxer engines (horizontally-opposed)


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Apr 5, 11:03pm - #435585 
Flat is the same word for Boxer which is the same word for horizontally opposed. Horzontally opposed engines are flat in appearance. Subies and Porsches have boxer/flat/horizontally opposed engines. Make sense?


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Apr 5, 11:12pm - #435586 
You don't get it, do you? grin
I didn't say they are not flat.
They are horizontally-opposed
That means the crankcase is in the middle.

What I asked was
"what car has flat engine that has all pistons push in the same direction"
That means crank case is on one side!
Look at the arrows.

Originally Posted by combatc87

Aren't flats all in one direction, like:
>
>
>
>
>
>


Which car has that setup?


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Apr 5, 11:25pm - #435587 
V12. McLaren F1 tasty

of course, they do some pretty good V8's as well. Ford GT, Mercedes SLR...

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Apr 5, 11:28pm - #435588 
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Apr 5, 11:33pm - #435589 
Rb thumbsup I6's in general thumbsup

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Apr 6, 12:07am - #435590 
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Apr 6, 5:37am - #435591 
did anyone mention the v-16 found in the concept car the cadalac sixteen?


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Apr 6, 6:01am - #435592 
Originally Posted by GT4
You don't get it, do you? grin
I didn't say they are not flat.
They are horizontally-opposed
That means the crankcase is in the middle.

What I asked was
"what car has flat engine that has all pistons push in the same direction"
That means crank case is on one side!
Look at the arrows.

Originally Posted by combatc87
Aren't flats all in one direction, like:
>
>
>
>
>
>


Which car has that setup?



LOL he just didnt read your quesiotn very well rofl. i dont belive any car has that. It would just be an I-6 that someone put on its side but i dont belive anyone actually does that thumbsup

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Apr 6, 6:01am - #435593 
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Apr 6, 7:57am - #435594 
Originally Posted by hombredelassrtas
Originally Posted by GT4
You don't get it, do you? grin
I didn't say they are not flat.
They are horizontally-opposed
That means the crankcase is in the middle.

What I asked was
"what car has flat engine that has all pistons push in the same direction"
That means crank case is on one side!
Look at the arrows.

Originally Posted by combatc87
Aren't flats all in one direction, like:
>
>
>
>
>
>


Which car has that setup?



LOL he just didnt read your quesiotn very well rofl. i dont belive any car has that. It would just be an I-6 that someone put on its side but i dont belive anyone actually does that thumbsup


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Originally Posted by celicadragon
did anyone mention the v-16 found in the concept car the cadalac sixteen?


On my first post, I was not including any engine that isn't mass produced from the factory. Concept engines definetely don't count.


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Apr 6, 9:56am - #435595 
What about a slant six?

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Apr 6, 11:50am - #435596 
A slant six?? Enlighten me please.


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Apr 6, 12:02pm - #435597 
Hey don't knock the Slant Six smile

That was my first engine in my Dodge Dart. It's a real work horse, and some people did actually build them up for performance.

They had their share of flaws; seems like I was out there twice a month with my feeler gauges re-gaping the rocker arms and valves.

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Apr 6, 12:08pm - #435598 
Slant Six is a Mopar engine, It's basically a straight six but the cylinders and spark plugs are tilted at about a 75 or 80 degree angle. If memory serves it was 225 cubic inch.

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Apr 6, 1:21pm - #435599 
Okay, thank you for clearing that up. I've never heard any say a suby has a flat-4.


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Apr 6, 5:12pm - #435600 
^^Serious? Go look in motortrend or C&D. In the end, there's a little small section on car stats. Under the type of engine, it says F4. F= flat. You've heard it now. thumbsup


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Apr 6, 9:29pm - #435601 
Originally Posted by combatc87
Okay, thank you for clearing that up. I've never heard any say a suby has a flat-4.

Visit www.subaru.com

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Apr 6, 9:52pm - #435602 
Inline 4 and 6. Anything Inline and it has to be DOHC.


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Apr 7, 3:06pm - #435603 
Originally Posted by GT4
Originally Posted by combatc87
Okay, thank you for clearing that up. I've never heard any say a suby has a flat-4.

Visit www.subaru.com


What were you trying to prove that I didn't know subies had 4-bangers on the same plane? I knew what kind of engines they had, but I've always heard horizontally opposed or boxer, not flat-4.


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Apr 7, 4:26pm - #435604 
Originally Posted by combatc87

Originally Posted by GT4

Originally Posted by combatc87

Okay, thank you for clearing that up. I've never heard any say a suby has a flat-4.

Visit www.subaru.com


What were you trying to prove that I didn't know subies had 4-bangers on the same plane? I knew what kind of engines they had, but I've always heard horizontally opposed or boxer, not flat-4.


Sorry. Misread your first post. banghead
I thought you didn't know that the car has boxer engine.
Any way, I have heard "flat 4" so many times from both Subaru
and non-subaru owners. Also people call "flat-6" in Porsche all the times.

http://auto.howstuffworks.com/engine-flat.htm
http://www.edmunds.com/new/2005/subaru/legacy/100396976/comparestyles.html
http://www.roadandtrack.com/article.asp?...p;page_number=1
http://www.flat-6.net/




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Apr 7, 5:02pm - #435605 
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Apr 7, 6:57pm - #435606 
Twin turbo 500+cui v8 race engine, but I can't afford one. eek

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Apr 7, 9:02pm - #435607 
Originally Posted by GT4
Originally Posted by combatc87
Originally Posted by GT4
Originally Posted by combatc87
Okay, thank you for clearing that up. I've never heard any say a suby has a flat-4.

Visit www.subaru.com


What were you trying to prove that I didn't know subies had 4-bangers on the same plane? I knew what kind of engines they had, but I've always heard horizontally opposed or boxer, not flat-4.


Sorry. Misread your first post. banghead
I thought you didn't know that the car has boxer engine.
Any way, I have heard "flat 4" so many times from both Subaru
and non-subaru owners. Also people call "flat-6" in Porsche all the times.

http://auto.howstuffworks.com/engine-flat.htm
http://www.edmunds.com/new/2005/subaru/legacy/100396976/comparestyles.html
http://www.roadandtrack.com/article.asp?...p;page_number=1
http://www.flat-6.net/


I find it hard to believe that a car fanatic hadn't heard of the term flat before.

BTW, i'm registered over at flat-6.net too.


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Apr 9, 8:42am - #435608 
I've heard the term flat before. But never when referring to the engine of a Subaru. It's always horizontally opposed of boxer.


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