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jyboygenius Apr 5, 6:07pm - #435565 
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What kinda engine do you like?

Alright, let's switch from the mod opinion/questions to some discussion.

What kind of engine do YOU prefer? Think in terms of power, price, reliability, etc. I'll drop custom engines not in mass production.

Inline-4(T)
Flat 4(T)

Inline 5(T)
^^Think Volvo

Inline 6(TT, T)
V6(TT, T)

V8

V10

V12

For me, engine over 8 is too thirsty and too suspectible to performance damage, given their uses. 4's don't provide enough power for me. I'm gonna stick with my Toyota roots and choose the I-6. It's a medium that is very flexible and extremely successful in luxo-performance vehicles. I.E. Supra, 3 series, M3, IS300.

Now how bout you guys? Please state a reason, it'll make discussion better.

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GT4 Apr 5, 7:05pm - #435566 

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I6 for me.
Easier to fabricate the manifolds and route the IC pipe for turbo.
Hot on one side and cold on the other side.
BTW, you might wanna include W engine too.

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hombredelassrtas Apr 5, 8:08pm - #435568 

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yea you forgot Rotart, Flat 6, and W-16.

My personal favorite is the W-16tttt on the bugatti wink Bur ewalistically my fav is flat 6 in the GT2 thumbsup Always been a porsche fan thumbsup

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celicadragon Apr 5, 8:25pm - #435569 

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i honestly dont know exactly why i like i-4 cyl so much

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dondeago Apr 5, 8:31pm - #435570 

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combatc87 Apr 5, 8:54pm - #435571 

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Also forgot horizontally opposed 4 cylcinders, also called boxer engines, like those in Subarus. Also forgot the 15 degree-V6, or VR6 from VW. I like I-4 for its weight, but I think the idea of the rotary is probably my favorite. It seems so practical, yet there is only one production car in the USDM that has one. That and the L6 (linear) I like, but mostly because of the 2JZ-GTE and the one in the new 3-series.

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jyboygenius Apr 5, 9:22pm - #435572 
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^^Horizontal = flat

Anything not Inline or flat is V. I forgot rotary and W. Added now.

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ExNihilo Apr 5, 9:52pm - #435573 
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Inline 4 (DOHC). I like the fuel mileage you get out of a small 4 in a light car like the Celica. Still has plenty of power for me, too.

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KickScrew Apr 5, 10:35pm - #435575 

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What about the inline 3 Geo Metro engine? rofl

My favrote engine is the Wankel Rotery Engine. Or any Rotery Engine for that matter. They are so practical. The entire engine is creating power instead of a few pistons. It seems like it could be engineered to be almost perfect.

I also like the new hydrogen engines but I dont know much about them.
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jyboygenius Apr 5, 10:44pm - #435576 
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BTW, I couldn't edit the list, time was up.

Hybrid engines are cool. I'd recommend it to someone, but I wouldn't drive one.

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vcel523 Apr 6, 12:03am - #435577 

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flat 6's have AMAZING power for their size
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combatc87 Apr 6, 2:15am - #435578 

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Originally Posted by jyboygenius
^^Horizontal = flat


Aren't flats all in one direction, like:
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Whereas a boxer is:
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???

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DJ_NorthStar Apr 6, 2:18am - #435579 
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I like the I-4, just because it's so simple and small. But for the power, V-6 is perfect...
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Carbonblue2005GT Apr 6, 2:24am - #435580 

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What about the V2 found in the Citroen 2CV...

Or V4 found in older european Fords and Saabs?

For me, I stick to the inline 4. Wish I could replace my 1zz-fe 1.8 with a 2.4 1zz-fe ...

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jyboygenius Apr 6, 2:57am - #435581 
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Originally Posted by combatc87
Originally Posted by jyboygenius
^^Horizontal = flat


Aren't flats all in one direction, like:
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Whereas a boxer is:
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Nope. Flat and horizontal are synonmyous terms. Same thing.

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GT4 Apr 6, 5:04am - #435582 

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Originally Posted by combatc87
Aren't flats all in one direction, like:
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Which car has that setup?

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jyboygenius Apr 6, 5:21am - #435583 
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Subarus, porsches, I'm 99% sure Ferrari is devloping a flat-12.

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I meant what car has flat engine that has all pistons push in the same direction?
Subies and Porsches have boxer engines (horizontally-opposed)

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jyboygenius Apr 6, 6:03am - #435585 
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Flat is the same word for Boxer which is the same word for horizontally opposed. Horzontally opposed engines are flat in appearance. Subies and Porsches have boxer/flat/horizontally opposed engines. Make sense?

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You don't get it, do you? grin
I didn't say they are not flat.
They are horizontally-opposed
That means the crankcase is in the middle.

What I asked was
"what car has flat engine that has all pistons push in the same direction"
That means crank case is on one side!
Look at the arrows.

Originally Posted by combatc87

Aren't flats all in one direction, like:
>
>
>
>
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Which car has that setup?

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Puppypunter Apr 6, 6:25am - #435587 
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V12. McLaren F1 tasty

of course, they do some pretty good V8's as well. Ford GT, Mercedes SLR...
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celicadragon Apr 6, 12:37pm - #435591 

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did anyone mention the v-16 found in the concept car the cadalac sixteen?

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hombredelassrtas Apr 6, 1:01pm - #435592 

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Originally Posted by GT4
You don't get it, do you? grin
I didn't say they are not flat.
They are horizontally-opposed
That means the crankcase is in the middle.

What I asked was
"what car has flat engine that has all pistons push in the same direction"
That means crank case is on one side!
Look at the arrows.

Originally Posted by combatc87
Aren't flats all in one direction, like:
>
>
>
>
>
>


Which car has that setup?



LOL he just didnt read your quesiotn very well rofl. i dont belive any car has that. It would just be an I-6 that someone put on its side but i dont belive anyone actually does that thumbsup

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jyboygenius Apr 6, 2:57pm - #435594 
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Originally Posted by hombredelassrtas
Originally Posted by GT4
You don't get it, do you? grin
I didn't say they are not flat.
They are horizontally-opposed
That means the crankcase is in the middle.

What I asked was
"what car has flat engine that has all pistons push in the same direction"
That means crank case is on one side!
Look at the arrows.

Originally Posted by combatc87
Aren't flats all in one direction, like:
>
>
>
>
>
>


Which car has that setup?



LOL he just didnt read your quesiotn very well rofl. i dont belive any car has that. It would just be an I-6 that someone put on its side but i dont belive anyone actually does that thumbsup


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Originally Posted by celicadragon
did anyone mention the v-16 found in the concept car the cadalac sixteen?


On my first post, I was not including any engine that isn't mass produced from the factory. Concept engines definetely don't count.

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jyboygenius Apr 6, 6:50pm - #435596 
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A slant six?? Enlighten me please.

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Hey don't knock the Slant Six smile

That was my first engine in my Dodge Dart. It's a real work horse, and some people did actually build them up for performance.

They had their share of flaws; seems like I was out there twice a month with my feeler gauges re-gaping the rocker arms and valves.
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Slant Six is a Mopar engine, It's basically a straight six but the cylinders and spark plugs are tilted at about a 75 or 80 degree angle. If memory serves it was 225 cubic inch.
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Okay, thank you for clearing that up. I've never heard any say a suby has a flat-4.

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^^Serious? Go look in motortrend or C&D. In the end, there's a little small section on car stats. Under the type of engine, it says F4. F= flat. You've heard it now. thumbsup

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Originally Posted by combatc87
Okay, thank you for clearing that up. I've never heard any say a suby has a flat-4.

Visit www.subaru.com

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Originally Posted by GT4
Originally Posted by combatc87
Okay, thank you for clearing that up. I've never heard any say a suby has a flat-4.

Visit www.subaru.com


What were you trying to prove that I didn't know subies had 4-bangers on the same plane? I knew what kind of engines they had, but I've always heard horizontally opposed or boxer, not flat-4.

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Originally Posted by combatc87

Originally Posted by GT4

Originally Posted by combatc87

Okay, thank you for clearing that up. I've never heard any say a suby has a flat-4.

Visit www.subaru.com


What were you trying to prove that I didn't know subies had 4-bangers on the same plane? I knew what kind of engines they had, but I've always heard horizontally opposed or boxer, not flat-4.


Sorry. Misread your first post. banghead
I thought you didn't know that the car has boxer engine.
Any way, I have heard "flat 4" so many times from both Subaru
and non-subaru owners. Also people call "flat-6" in Porsche all the times.

http://auto.howstuffworks.com/engine-flat.htm
http://www.edmunds.com/new/2005/subaru/legacy/100396976/comparestyles.html
http://www.roadandtrack.com/article.asp?...p;page_number=1
http://www.flat-6.net/



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jyboygenius Apr 8, 4:02am - #435607 
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Originally Posted by GT4
Originally Posted by combatc87
Originally Posted by GT4
Originally Posted by combatc87
Okay, thank you for clearing that up. I've never heard any say a suby has a flat-4.

Visit www.subaru.com


What were you trying to prove that I didn't know subies had 4-bangers on the same plane? I knew what kind of engines they had, but I've always heard horizontally opposed or boxer, not flat-4.


Sorry. Misread your first post. banghead
I thought you didn't know that the car has boxer engine.
Any way, I have heard "flat 4" so many times from both Subaru
and non-subaru owners. Also people call "flat-6" in Porsche all the times.

http://auto.howstuffworks.com/engine-flat.htm
http://www.edmunds.com/new/2005/subaru/legacy/100396976/comparestyles.html
http://www.roadandtrack.com/article.asp?...p;page_number=1
http://www.flat-6.net/


I find it hard to believe that a car fanatic hadn't heard of the term flat before.

BTW, i'm registered over at flat-6.net too.

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I've heard the term flat before. But never when referring to the engine of a Subaru. It's always horizontally opposed of boxer.

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