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ct Apr 4, 10:59pm - #434713 

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best mods available for the Celica so far...

post up if you have others in mind:

CAI:gts, TPR, AEM-gt, Injen
axle back:TPR, TRD
straight exhaust: Kazuma
brake pads:axxis
BB kit:TRD?
turbo:C2gas
sways:hotchkis comps or street
struts:Koni yellows
coil overs: Teins?
lsd:quaife
nitrous: many like zex
cams:gts, TPR- gt crower
header:gts, none- gt Hotshot and DC

i'm missing some others...try to fill it in wave

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xlonelydrifterx Apr 4, 11:02pm - #434714 

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ct Apr 4, 11:04pm - #434715 

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you mean a gt rear brake conversion using gts rotors? i know kim succesfully has done that.

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SLVCELI Apr 4, 11:54pm - #434716 
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tuning/engine management-power fc for now.

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ct Apr 5, 12:22am - #434717 

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ahh...what about the emanage and unichip (<---actually i have yet to see and independant dyno on the unichip...but it seems to work with the matrix owners)

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SLVCELI Apr 5, 12:46am - #434718 
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Originally Posted by ct
ahh...what about the emanage and unichip (<---actually i have yet to see and independant dyno on the unichip...but it seems to work with the matrix owners)


Not as good gains. You could say standalone is the powerfc and piggyback is the e-Manage. An independant dyno of the unichip showed a 4 whp and 4 wtq gain on a gts with i/e/h which puts it behind the e-Manage and the unichip is twice as much. The low end power of the unichip looked good but I still dont know if it would put it above the e-Manage since the e-Manage gains 6 whp and 4 wtq without any other mods on a gt. Even with the extra harnesses I needed to run the sc with the e-Manage, it still was cheaper than the unichip. So e-Manage would be the best option for celicas with dbw who cant get the powerfc or want something cheaper.

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ct Apr 5, 12:52am - #434719 

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wow...where did you see this unichip dyno? share!... grin

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thE_laW Apr 5, 1:06am - #434720 

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Originally Posted by ct
wow...where did you see this unichip dyno? share!... grin


yes i am interested in viewing these as well.

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SLVCELI Apr 5, 1:10am - #434721 
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spaztikid Apr 5, 1:19am - #434722 
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CAI: not worth it
axle back: custom
straight exhaust: custom
brake pads: rotora BBK
BB kit: rotora BBK
turbo: Stafford... C2 doesnt come with a fuel system
sways: hotchkis comps or street
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00celica00gt Apr 5, 1:22am - #434723 

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turbo - C2...stafford does not exist anymore.

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spaztikid Apr 5, 2:12am - #434724 
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regardless if you can get it or not, its still a better product...
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00celica00gt Apr 5, 2:15am - #434725 

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how so? customer service was horrible. lots of people never recieved there kits. In my book. thats pretty lame. C2 customers seem very pleased with thier product.

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spaztikid Apr 5, 2:19am - #434726 
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i've been in a stafford turbo'd GT and GTS... and the kits are top notch... i know c2 makes a good kit...

stafford's kit comes with a fuel system and c2's does not...

look at everyone with the stock c2 kit... they peak at ~190 whp in their gt's because their cars lean out too much otherwise...

fuel system costs about 500 bucks...
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ct Apr 5, 2:23am - #434727 

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the unichip peak hp isn't bad but the gains on the overall poer bad (esp. down low) seem pretty good. but i would have to agree that the #'s aren't that great if this was an I/H/E dyno...

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Zero Apr 5, 2:23am - #434728 

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turbo: C2gas
sways: hotchkis comps or street
struts: KYB AGX
coil overs: Teins?
springs: Tein S.Tech or Eibach Pro kit
lsd:quaife?
nitrous: many like zex or NX - wet
cams:gts, TPR- gt crower
header:GT - Hotshot
added HP boosters: "powered by toyota" stickers, "APC"... spineyes

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ct Apr 5, 2:24am - #434729 

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Originally Posted by spaztikid

CAI: not worth it


confused why do you say that? if a person chose n/a..wouldn't a CAI be a choice?

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ct Apr 5, 2:26am - #434730 

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whoops...thanks zero. i forgot about springs. granted hotchkis is probably the best progessive spring...but how about linear springs?

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SLVCELI Apr 5, 2:26am - #434731 
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I def. agree with the c2 turbo. Customer support is way too important with a turbo.

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Rear strut bar- C-One/TRD?

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what about the hypermotive 3pt rear strut bar? wasn't that removable?

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SLVCELI Apr 5, 2:32am - #434733 
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Originally Posted by ct
what about the hypermotive 3pt rear strut bar? wasn't that removable?


I would have said that but they went out of business to regroup. So when they open back up yeah.

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spaztikid Apr 5, 2:45am - #434734 
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Originally Posted by ct
Originally Posted by spaztikid

CAI: not worth it


confused why do you say that? if a person chose n/a..wouldn't a CAI be a choice?


because the 5 whp it makes untuned is useless.
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SLVCELI Apr 5, 2:57am - #434735 
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Originally Posted by spaztikid
because the 5 whp it makes untuned is useless.


wtf The best bang for your buck non fi is useless?

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spaztikid Apr 5, 3:15am - #434736 
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hardley the best bang for your buck...
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Originally Posted by spaztikid
hardley the best bang for your buck...


Then what is?

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Originally Posted by spaztikid
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CAI: not worth it


confused why do you say that? if a person chose n/a..wouldn't a CAI be a choice?


because the 5 whp it makes untuned is useless.


i understand...but if you went out all n/a...header, cam, exhaust...wouldn't colder air be a factor?

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spaztikid Apr 5, 4:07am - #434739 
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if you went all out NA you would have the following (gts)

Intake - 200
exhaust - 450
header - 700
PFC - 900
Tuning - 300


thats 2550... you can get a turbo kit for just over 3k... so whats the point in gaining 20 whp for 2500 bucks when you can buy a turbo and gain 100 whp.



gt could have :

Intake - 200
exhaust - 450
header - 700
PFC - 900
Tuning - 300
cams - 400
cam install - ~300

thats around 3300... and only about 140-150 whp rofl when for that price you can get about 210 whp with a turbo...
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spaztikid Apr 5, 4:08am - #434740 
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as far as not going the FI route... i'd say to stick with suspension mods for the best bang for the buck... the celica is strong in the handling dept. and can hold its own quiet nicely when equipped with good suspension upgrades.
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SLVCELI Apr 5, 5:14pm - #434741 
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The turbo is gonna cost more around 5000 and that doesnt include any internals. The Intake is still the best bang for your buck without forced induction. I went down a second and a half in the quarter mile by adding an Intake and exhaust. Granted I was in the 18's to start out with grin but it does make a difference. Of coarse going with a turbo or supercharger is much better but then you have to start worrying about reliability and most people dont just have 5 grand lying around.

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Easy_C Apr 5, 6:29pm - #434742 
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lol I love how people list custom exhausts as being the best for performance. If all the people that did custom exhausts knew everything about flow dynamics, why haven't they opened up the best performance exhaust company nationwide LMAO...

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ct Apr 5, 6:34pm - #434743 

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hey chris...i say don't wait for an independant dyno...lets see whatcha got on the cams... i heard you already dynoed one with them onthumbsup

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spaztikid Apr 5, 6:51pm - #434744 
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Originally Posted by Easy_C
lol I love how people list custom exhausts as being the best for performance. If all the people that did custom exhausts knew everything about flow dynamics, why haven't they opened up the best performance exhaust company nationwide LMAO...

Stock airbox rulezzzzz!!!!11111oneoneoneone!!!1



maybe we should all just buy magnaflow mufflers and weld on some pipes and tips rofl
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celicajonz Apr 5, 7:07pm - #434745 
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Easy_C Apr 5, 7:36pm - #434746 
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Oh theres no doubt a custom exhaust can make more power than mine. But the odds of an exhaust shop achieving this by randomly throwing some muffler and piping together is slim. I'm sorry, but there is a lot more that goes into an exhaust than just throwing one together. I chose magnaflow because of the sound, quality, and how easy they were to deal with in making my mufflers for me. the performance was just a benefit wink

Again I say, custom is only decent if the shop knows what they are doing...and good luck with that :thumbup:

The cams are already available for purchasing. no one wants to buy because theres no dynos yet...

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