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Lowering Springs #427702 Mar 28, 2:33pm Mar 28, 2:33pm
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Lowering Springs
Hey i just bought skunk2 lowering springs, and i went to go get a quote to see how much they cost to put on and the guy said that i needed a camfer kit or somethin because if i drop it and i don't have it the inside of my tires will go bald in a week, do i need to buy something else or does the GTS come with it?


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Re: Lowering Springs [Re: doady22] #427703 Mar 28, 2:52pm Mar 28, 2:52pm
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A camber kit allows your suspensions camber to be adjusted and aligned past factory limits. If you drop your car, the wheel bottoms point out a little. You'd then get them aligned, but if you drop too low then the factory camber can't adjust that far, thus the camber links.


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Re: Lowering Springs [Re: combatc87] #427704 Mar 28, 5:19pm Mar 28, 5:19pm
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so im i gonna have to buy one?


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Re: Lowering Springs [Re: doady22] #427705 Mar 28, 5:26pm Mar 28, 5:26pm
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i thought all you needed if you dropped it was some new shocks & struts


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Re: Lowering Springs [Re: mrluilou] #427706 Mar 28, 6:55pm Mar 28, 6:55pm
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It depends on how low you drop it.

I'm having the same problem right now.

Mine are dropped 1.4 inches with Eibach springs, and the there is a lot of negative camber. The inside of my tires is down to about 25% of the thread, while the outside still has at least 75%. This is after about 4 months and 15k miles.

I'm going to hit up a shop this week to get it re-aligned, hoping that they'll be able to get it back to specs without a camber kit.


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Re: Lowering Springs [Re: jeiger] #427707 Mar 28, 7:47pm Mar 28, 7:47pm
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I believe it's closer to a 2 inch drop that requires a camber kit.


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Re: Lowering Springs [Re: combatc87] #427708 Mar 29, 10:39am Mar 29, 10:39am
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I am looking at buying Hotchkis lowering springs. When I called Hotchkis they suggested I get the camber kit. He told me they see a negative camber when Celicas are lowered, even at 1.5 inch drop. so i figured the kit is cheaper than new tires.

Re: Lowering Springs [Re: shambhala412] #427709 Mar 29, 2:54pm Mar 29, 2:54pm
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I went to suspensiongeek.com and they show this is all i need to drop my car 2 inches, it is a camber kit, but to me it only looks like 2 bolts. Is this what i actually need or is it a knock off. I copied and pasted the website, so if anyone can check it out, and help me out that would be great.



http://www.suspensiongeek.com/Parts/81290.htm


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Re: Lowering Springs [Re: doady22] #427710 Mar 29, 4:17pm Mar 29, 4:17pm
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I'm no expert on this subject, but you might find this link of interest:


http://users.ameritech.net/trdcelica/suspension.htm

"The front struts in the Celica have no camber adjustability and have very little camber stock. However, there are two ways to increase camber. The method I used is legal for SCCA autocross and consists of replacing the top strut bolt with a "crash" bolt available from Toyota.

These bolts are used for crashed cars that have suspension damage and cannot be returned to stock camber. The bolts are available in three sizes: 1 Dot, 2 Dot and 3 Dot. The part numbers are as follows:

1 Dot 90105-15004

2 Dot 90105-15005

3 Dot 90105-15006

Each successive bolts will change front camber by -0.5 degrees. I used 2 Dot bolts in my car to get close to the camber I wanted, since 3 Dots would give me more than I wanted. The alignment I ended up settling on was as follows..."

Re: Lowering Springs [Re: GTS2003BLK] #427711 Mar 29, 5:40pm Mar 29, 5:40pm
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I dropped my car 1.5 inches (H&R springs)My dunlop tires allowed up to .9 degrees negative camber, but they were able to get it down to .2 degrees. If you look at the wheels, you can barely tell, and it improves the handleing a bit.. but my tires are totally fine. I've heard of pleanty of people that have sportlines (2 inch drop), don't get camber kits, and there back camber is just fine..

I think it really depends where you take it.

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