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Grounding wiring kit #424600 Mar 23, 11:34pm Mar 23, 11:34pm
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Grounding wiring kit
Anybody have a grounding kit installed? Does is really make any difference?


cant say ive done that before... ahh crap
Re: Grounding wiring kit [Re: ForceFed] #424601 Mar 24, 8:29am Mar 24, 8:29am
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Just better throttle response, makes a bigger difference if you're running a crazy sound system. Overall it's not a bad mod for the money!

Re: Grounding wiring kit [Re: speed_celica] #424602 Mar 24, 8:49am Mar 24, 8:49am
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I have it. Car starts up faster. Lights is a bit brighter. I agree, pretty good for the money.


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Re: Grounding wiring kit [Re: Chelica815] #424603 Mar 24, 8:59am Mar 24, 8:59am
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its always a good ideal to use the search button thumbsup


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Re: Grounding wiring kit [Re: kmlgts] #424604 Mar 24, 3:02pm Mar 24, 3:02pm
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using the search button requires too much work. it was easier to just to make a post


cant say ive done that before... ahh crap
Re: Grounding wiring kit [Re: ForceFed] #424605 Mar 25, 8:27pm Mar 25, 8:27pm
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Used 2 10 gauge wires. It's good for 140A on the engine where the length is less than 5'. People overkill with the 4 gauge. I don't know anyone that has got 200 Amps pumping into the engine block continuous.

The biggest difference I notices was the body ground. My windows and antenna roll twice as fast.

I have $5 tied up in it.

Re: Grounding wiring kit [Re: maingear] #424606 Mar 26, 1:15am Mar 26, 1:15am
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how much does it cost??


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Re: Grounding wiring kit [Re: andru514] #424607 Mar 27, 11:27pm Mar 27, 11:27pm
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A grounding kit makes a small difference. The car already comes with it's own ground wires, but they're very thin and won't hold as much of a load as the big aftermarket ground wires. As posted earlier, some noticeable changes with a grounding kit would be faster start up, brighter lights, slight increase in throttle response, etc. Also it gives a good feeling that you have an upgraded grounding system thumbsup I got my grounding kit from Tuned Innovations for like $30 shipped. You may want to look into voltage stabilizers because they do almost the same thing but supposedly more efficiently. It's quite expensive though, like $100+...

Re: Grounding wiring kit [Re: Kaze] #424608 Mar 30, 11:45am Mar 30, 11:45am
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There is not 140 amps running through the engine. If you have a 4 gauge wire running to an amp(s) in the back plus a high power headunit, it make perfect sense to have 4 gauge grounding wires. The whole point of the kit is to increase electrical efficiency, mostly for audio.

Re: Grounding wiring kit [Re: LamarVannoy] #424609 Mar 30, 3:43pm Mar 30, 3:43pm
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I orderd my ground kit. its on its way. waaahooow


cant say ive done that before... ahh crap
Re: Grounding wiring kit [Re: ForceFed] #424610 Mar 30, 9:48pm Mar 30, 9:48pm
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yea i just ordered mines from tuned innovations thumbsup

i got the blue one grin

Re: Grounding wiring kit [Re: g96818] #424611 Mar 30, 10:02pm Mar 30, 10:02pm
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yea i just ordered one too wat the heck. any1 got a quick pic of it installed ?

Re: Grounding wiring kit [Re: g96818] #424612 Mar 30, 10:02pm Mar 30, 10:02pm
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I got the back ones. I dont mind though. when you get yours tell me how ya like them


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Re: Grounding wiring kit [Re: Vlad] #424613 Mar 30, 10:35pm Mar 30, 10:35pm
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Originally Posted by Vlad
yea i just ordered one too wat the heck. any1 got a quick pic of it installed ?


u cant really see mine, they are all hidden.. you can only see the ones coming off the battery terminal


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Re: Grounding wiring kit [Re: bmw52786] #424614 Mar 31, 5:51am Mar 31, 5:51am
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Where it comes up to the battery is really the only place you see it. To let you guys know, I am waiting on a shipment of terminals that is supposed to be in this week. I will get your kits out to you shortly after.

Re: Grounding wiring kit [Re: LamarVannoy] #424615 Mar 31, 6:09am Mar 31, 6:09am
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I made my own also, but crimping those wires are a bitch. I went one step further though, I made a ompilation of the Teamcelica kit, Happies kit, and the trial kit...but I noticed smoother engine performance as for more HP, its probably too little to tell the difference...make it yourself its a whole lot cheaper


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Re: Grounding wiring kit [Re: Vlad] #424616 Mar 31, 12:10pm Mar 31, 12:10pm
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Originally Posted by Vlad
yea i just ordered one too wat the heck. any1 got a quick pic of it installed ?

https://www.celicahobby.com/ubbthreads/thread.f0_191432_0_collapsed_5__1.html#191432

Re: Grounding wiring kit [Re: LamarVannoy] #424617 Mar 31, 12:10pm Mar 31, 12:10pm
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Originally Posted by LamarVannoy
Where it comes up to the battery is really the only place you see it. To let you guys know, I am waiting on a shipment of terminals that is supposed to be in this week. I will get your kits out to you shortly after.


thx wave

Re: Grounding wiring kit [Re: LamarVannoy] #424618 Apr 2, 4:14am Apr 2, 4:14am
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Originally Posted by LamarVannoy

There is not 140 amps running through the engine. If you have a 4 gauge wire running to an amp(s) in the back plus a high power headunit, it make perfect sense to have 4 gauge grounding wires. The whole point of the kit is to increase electrical efficiency, mostly for audio.


So it is more efficient to use a chassis ground for an amp instead of running a separate circuit to the audio system? Steel is better than copper? Have you calculated the voltage drop in six feet of steel under a full load? If so What handbook did you use? I used the AC4313.1B.

Re: Grounding wiring kit [Re: maingear] #424619 Apr 2, 8:48am Apr 2, 8:48am
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This is just some data on a potential (ephasis on the word "potential") problem associated with having multiple paths to ground, particularly with audio and video systems:

http://www.epanorama.net/documents/groundloop/basics.html

"A ground loop occurs when there is more than one ground connection path between two pieces of equipment. The duplicate ground paths form the equivalent of a loop antenna which very efficiently picks up interference currents. Lead resistance transforms these currents into voltage fluctuations. As a consequence of ground-loop induced voltages, the ground reference in the system is no longer a stable potential, so signals ride on the noise. The noise becomes part of the program signal.

Ground loop does not cause problems when all of the following thing are true:

1. None of the wires in the loop carry any current
2. The loop is not exposed to external changing magnetic fields
3. There is no radio frequency interference nearby

If there is any current folowing in any wires, there is then some potentital difference which causes current to flow in other wires also which causes problems. The loop will also act as coil and pick current from the changing magnetic fields around it. Wire loop acts also like an antenna picking up radio signals."

Don't flame me I didn't write it. Don't ask me to explain it I only loosely understand it my self. Where did I find it? Well somewhere there is a really hot librarian chick in the back book storage room with her hair falling out of its bun and her classes on sideways from bouncing up and down while straddling the maintenance guy on the floor and screaming GOOGLE!

Re: Grounding wiring kit [Re: GTS2003BLK] #424620 Apr 3, 1:49am Apr 3, 1:49am
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Originally Posted by GTS2003BLK

Don't flame me I didn't write it. Don't ask me to explain it I only loosely understand it my self. Where did I find it? Well somewhere there is a really hot librarian chick in the back book storage room with her hair falling out of its bun and her classes on sideways from bouncing up and down while straddling the maintenance guy on the floor and screaming GOOGLE!


rofl rofl rofl

That explains why spark plug impulses can be heard on some radios. Shielding takes care of almost all of the symptoms listed. Im surprised that shielding hasnt caught in automotive applications like it has in other industries. We are ok because we use DC as a primary supply and there are no carrier/Tx signals on the common ground.

Re: Grounding wiring kit [Re: maingear] #424621 Apr 3, 1:58am Apr 3, 1:58am
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LamarVennoy hit the nail on the head! 4 gauge to the amps!! wave

Originally Posted by LamarVannoy
If you have a 4 gauge wire running to an amp(s) in the back plus a high power headunit, it make perfect sense to have 4 gauge grounding wires. The whole point of the kit is to increase electrical efficiency, mostly for audio.

Re: Grounding wiring kit [Re: maingear] #424622 Apr 3, 2:17pm Apr 3, 2:17pm
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i got mine from tuned innovations, i thought it was a pos kit. the connectors fell off, down into my engine bay, so i had to spend another 30minutes trying to find the things, and then had to recrimp all of the connectors back on better.

after all of this, i felt no differece, heard no difference, and saw no difference.


worthless waste of time mod in my book. thumbsdown


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Re: Grounding wiring kit [Re: GTSbyTRD] #424623 Apr 11, 10:05pm Apr 11, 10:05pm
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i just got mines, noticed it started faster, colder ac and no crimping probs
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Re: Grounding wiring kit [Re: g96818] #424624 Apr 11, 10:32pm Apr 11, 10:32pm
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wat good place to get grounding cables??


it doesnt matter wat u drive or who u driving against its all about how you drive
Re: Grounding wiring kit [Re: AznKhaos] #424625 Apr 11, 10:43pm Apr 11, 10:43pm
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I put mine on today but have not really drivin much to notice anything different yet


cant say ive done that before... ahh crap
Re: Grounding wiring kit [Re: ForceFed] #424626 Apr 11, 10:55pm Apr 11, 10:55pm
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i think i might get one, ill look nto it a little more thought

Re: Grounding wiring kit [Re: ForceFed] #424627 Apr 12, 9:57am Apr 12, 9:57am
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I just ordered a kit from Tuned Innovations - I have 2 amps - one for highs one for subs - is this mod going to cause any problems?


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Re: Grounding wiring kit [Re: bajoconstruction] #424628 Apr 12, 10:32am Apr 12, 10:32am
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Originally Posted by GTSbyTRD
i got mine from tuned innovations, i thought it was a pos kit. the connectors fell off, down into my engine bay, so i had to spend another 30minutes trying to find the things, and then had to recrimp all of the connectors back on better.

after all of this, i felt no differece, heard no difference, and saw no difference.


worthless waste of time mod in my book. thumbsdown


Some say that Tuned Innovations hasn't had as good quality as they did in the past...other people have reported exactly what you just said: shoddy kit and no benefits. I didn't have any problems with mine though, so maybe I'm lucky...

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