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got my ground kit #424243 Mar 23, 7:00pm Mar 23, 7:00pm
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got my ground kit
just made my own ground kit.. what do you guys think?

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Re: got my ground kit [Re: kmlgts] #424244 Mar 23, 7:17pm Mar 23, 7:17pm
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Re: got my ground kit [Re: kmlgts] #424245 Mar 23, 7:18pm Mar 23, 7:18pm
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Very cool. thumbsup Is there a link on ecelica for installing?


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Re: got my ground kit [Re: ExNihilo] #424246 Mar 23, 7:19pm Mar 23, 7:19pm
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Re: got my ground kit [Re: ExNihilo] #424247 Mar 23, 7:26pm Mar 23, 7:26pm
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Nice.

Re: got my ground kit [Re: xmangt1] #424248 Mar 23, 8:21pm Mar 23, 8:21pm
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whats a ground kit. and wat does it do.

Re: got my ground kit [Re: v4shj16] #424249 Mar 23, 9:16pm Mar 23, 9:16pm
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i take it for a drive. the head light are 20%-30% brighter, start quicker, idle better..






edit: before i install the kit the head light is not as bright as the fog light but now the head light is way brighter then the fog light.



here's a question you guys are having or thinking about it.
Q: does it gain more power???

A: to me it feel the same.

Re: got my ground kit [Re: kmlgts] #424250 Mar 23, 10:29pm Mar 23, 10:29pm
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Just out of curiosity, what did it cost you to make your own kit? Or did you have spare materials lying around from a stereo install. I thought about making my own, but by the time I would have bought all the materials, it would have just been cheaper to go with the Tuned Innovations kit. So I did.


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Re: got my ground kit [Re: CRBN BLU] #424251 Mar 23, 10:31pm Mar 23, 10:31pm
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cost me about $20 and 1 hour of my life


edit: i spend about one hour or so making the kit and install the kit


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Re: got my ground kit [Re: kmlgts] #424252 Mar 23, 10:37pm Mar 23, 10:37pm
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what gauge wire did you use?

Re: got my ground kit [Re: sweetnuts4sale] #424253 Mar 23, 10:43pm Mar 23, 10:43pm
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4 gauge thumbsup


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Re: got my ground kit [Re: sweetnuts4sale] #424254 Mar 23, 10:44pm Mar 23, 10:44pm
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Hmmm i been thinking about doing this myself...glad it worked out for ya!


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Re: got my ground kit [Re: bajoconstruction] #424255 Mar 23, 10:59pm Mar 23, 10:59pm
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where'd you get the specs to make the kit? also what wire did you use? i wanna use Monster cable for that ish... thumbsup


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Re: got my ground kit [Re: Zero] #424256 Mar 23, 11:04pm Mar 23, 11:04pm
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Originally Posted by Zero
where'd you get the specs to make the kit? also what wire did you use? i wanna use Monster cable for that ish... thumbsup



i got the info on the other celica site(TC) wink i use 4 gauge wire.. thumbsup


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Re: got my ground kit [Re: kmlgts] #424257 Mar 23, 11:08pm Mar 23, 11:08pm
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For the price of the mod, I think it is worth it. It was one of the first mod that I did that deals with the engine bay. thumbsup thumbsup thumbsup


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Re: got my ground kit [Re: Chelica815] #424258 Mar 23, 11:24pm Mar 23, 11:24pm
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Why does the car need more grounding? I'm skeptical as to the benefit of this "mod".


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Re: got my ground kit [Re: chazza] #424259 Mar 23, 11:27pm Mar 23, 11:27pm
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can you post a picture as to how its connected to your battery? please. smile


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Re: got my ground kit [Re: Zero] #424260 Mar 23, 11:34pm Mar 23, 11:34pm
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add the new ground wire + the current ground wire to the negative


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Re: got my ground kit [Re: kmlgts] #424261 Mar 23, 11:36pm Mar 23, 11:36pm
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just like this one but without the one on the left.. the top is your old wire + the one on the right(new ground)



https://www.celicahobby.com/gal3/albums/inst/groundinginst01.jpg


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Re: got my ground kit [Re: kmlgts] #424262 Mar 23, 11:38pm Mar 23, 11:38pm
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ooo I want to make my own grin

Doesn't look too hard


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Re: got my ground kit [Re: Erick] #424263 Mar 23, 11:49pm Mar 23, 11:49pm
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would there be any extra benfits in running 2 gauge wire instead of 4 gauge wire?

Re: got my ground kit [Re: sweetnuts4sale] #424264 Mar 24, 12:46am Mar 24, 12:46am
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Re: got my ground kit [Re: ToiletPaper] #424265 Mar 24, 2:43am Mar 24, 2:43am
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tight... thumbsup save a few bucks

Re: got my ground kit [Re: Virgilson] #424266 Mar 24, 9:37am Mar 24, 9:37am
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Just use 4 gauge kit. This mod goes great with a new battery.


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Re: got my ground kit [Re: chazza] #424267 Mar 24, 4:31pm Mar 24, 4:31pm
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Originally Posted by chazza
Why does the car need more grounding? I'm skeptical as to the benefit of this "mod".


It's not that the car needs MORE grounding, because it's already grounded. Kits like this tend to replace the current grounding wires with thicker wiring to allow for more transfer of current with less resistance.


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Re: got my ground kit [Re: CRBN BLU] #424268 Mar 25, 11:13am Mar 25, 11:13am
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^^ I think that's pretty close. I've never fully understood how or why it works, but I know it does.

Originally Posted by kmlgts
here's a question you guys are having or thinking about it.
Q: does it gain more power???

A: to me it feel the same.


You may gain some power (maybe 1-2 whp) but nothing you'll be able to notice.

The real benefit is the increase in efficiency of the electrical system (brighter lights, louder sound system, etc.).

Re: got my ground kit [Re: renfield90] #424269 Mar 25, 11:40am Mar 25, 11:40am
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how many feet would that be total???


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Re: got my ground kit [Re: xxmonkeyboixx] #424270 Mar 25, 7:19pm Mar 25, 7:19pm
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Load rating for 14VDC

2 gauge 150A @ 40 foot
4 gauge 100A @ 40 foot
10 gauge 70A @ 12 foot
12 gauge 50A @ 12 foot

The longest piece of wire I used was 4 foot long. Why is anyone using 4 Gauge for anything other than the starter, sound system, or Lights??? Is it for looks? the numbers do not add up!!

Information taken from the Code of Federal Regulations Section 14 (Federal Aviation Regulation) Advisory Circular 43.13-1B REV Feb 02

If anyone has a engineering handbook, one can see that the shorter runs I made will have higher capacity than 70A with a 10 Gauge wire!!

Let's do the math before money is wasted and too much weight is added for the same gains!

Re: got my ground kit [Re: maingear] #424271 Mar 25, 7:24pm Mar 25, 7:24pm
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^---- i meant what is the required foot total for all the grounding??? so if i go buy my wires i'll know how many feet to buy.. hehehe


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Re: got my ground kit [Re: xxmonkeyboixx] #424272 Mar 25, 7:47pm Mar 25, 7:47pm
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I can't remember, I had it on a roll. Cut to fit, beat to match!! spineyes

Re: got my ground kit [Re: maingear] #424273 Mar 25, 7:49pm Mar 25, 7:49pm
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about 90-95 inch


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Re: got my ground kit [Re: kmlgts] #424274 Mar 25, 7:54pm Mar 25, 7:54pm
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oh man... frown hmmm so 4 gauge would be good enough or 2 gauge?? dont they have those wires at home depot???


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Re: got my ground kit [Re: xxmonkeyboixx] #424275 Mar 25, 8:14pm Mar 25, 8:14pm
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I used 10 gauge wires and it worked awsome! I can get away with it because I have the stock sound and lights.

What is the greatest electrical load once the engine has started??

I will run a deticated grounds for my amp and lights when I get around to installing the aftermarket components.

Oz.'s makes Lbs!!!!

Re: got my ground kit [Re: maingear] #424276 Mar 25, 8:17pm Mar 25, 8:17pm
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hmmm i have a 1200 watts amp with a 1400 watt subs...im gettin a headunit pretty soon. so 4 gauge should be good enough rite?? oh yea also gettin another sub and amp...


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Re: got my ground kit [Re: xxmonkeyboixx] #424277 Mar 25, 8:57pm Mar 25, 8:57pm
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4 Gauge 150A at 16'
2 Gauge 200A at 16'
I would run a set of 2 gauge wires from the batery to amps. In 16 feet of 2 Gauge, 12VDC X 200A = 2400 watts of continous power.

These values are for only 1V on drop, so it will preform very well. I wouldn't use the body for a ground. I would run them directly to the amps, hooking the amps in parallel to the power source. Get silver or gold coated copper wire. The current runs in the outer edge of the cable.

If the engine has factory electrical components on it is way overkill to use anything over 10 gauge on the engine.

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