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kmlgts Mar 24, 2:00am - #424243 

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got my ground kit

just made my own ground kit.. what do you guys think?
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hombredelassrtas Mar 24, 2:17am - #424244 

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ExNihilo Mar 24, 2:18am - #424245 
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Very cool. thumbsup Is there a link on ecelica for installing?

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kmlgts Mar 24, 2:19am - #424246 

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xmangt1 Mar 24, 2:26am - #424247 

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v4shj16 Mar 24, 3:21am - #424248 

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whats a ground kit. and wat does it do.
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kmlgts Mar 24, 4:16am - #424249 

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i take it for a drive. the head light are 20%-30% brighter, start quicker, idle better..






edit: before i install the kit the head light is not as bright as the fog light but now the head light is way brighter then the fog light.



here's a question you guys are having or thinking about it.
Q: does it gain more power???

A: to me it feel the same.
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CRBN BLU Mar 24, 5:29am - #424250 

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Just out of curiosity, what did it cost you to make your own kit? Or did you have spare materials lying around from a stereo install. I thought about making my own, but by the time I would have bought all the materials, it would have just been cheaper to go with the Tuned Innovations kit. So I did.

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kmlgts Mar 24, 5:31am - #424251 

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cost me about $20 and 1 hour of my life


edit: i spend about one hour or so making the kit and install the kit

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sweetnuts4sale Mar 24, 5:37am - #424252 
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what gauge wire did you use?
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kmlgts Mar 24, 5:43am - #424253 

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4 gauge thumbsup

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bajoconstruction Mar 24, 5:44am - #424254 

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Hmmm i been thinking about doing this myself...glad it worked out for ya!

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Zero Mar 24, 5:59am - #424255 

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where'd you get the specs to make the kit? also what wire did you use? i wanna use Monster cable for that ish... thumbsup

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kmlgts Mar 24, 6:04am - #424256 

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Originally Posted by Zero
where'd you get the specs to make the kit? also what wire did you use? i wanna use Monster cable for that ish... thumbsup



i got the info on the other celica site(TC) wink i use 4 gauge wire.. thumbsup

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Chelica815 Mar 24, 6:08am - #424257 
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For the price of the mod, I think it is worth it. It was one of the first mod that I did that deals with the engine bay. thumbsup thumbsup thumbsup

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chazza Mar 24, 6:24am - #424258 

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Why does the car need more grounding? I'm skeptical as to the benefit of this "mod".

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Zero Mar 24, 6:27am - #424259 

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can you post a picture as to how its connected to your battery? please. smile

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kmlgts Mar 24, 6:34am - #424260 

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add the new ground wire + the current ground wire to the negative

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kmlgts Mar 24, 6:36am - #424261 

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just like this one but without the one on the left.. the top is your old wire + the one on the right(new ground)



https://www.celicahobby.com/gal3/albums/inst/groundinginst01.jpg

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Erick Mar 24, 6:38am - #424262 

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ooo I want to make my own grin

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sweetnuts4sale Mar 24, 6:49am - #424263 
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would there be any extra benfits in running 2 gauge wire instead of 4 gauge wire?
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ToiletPaper Mar 24, 7:46am - #424264 
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Virgilson Mar 24, 9:43am - #424265 

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tight... thumbsup save a few bucks
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Chelica815 Mar 24, 4:37pm - #424266 
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Just use 4 gauge kit. This mod goes great with a new battery.

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CRBN BLU Mar 24, 11:31pm - #424267 

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Originally Posted by chazza
Why does the car need more grounding? I'm skeptical as to the benefit of this "mod".


It's not that the car needs MORE grounding, because it's already grounded. Kits like this tend to replace the current grounding wires with thicker wiring to allow for more transfer of current with less resistance.

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renfield90 Mar 25, 6:13pm - #424268 

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^^ I think that's pretty close. I've never fully understood how or why it works, but I know it does.

Originally Posted by kmlgts
here's a question you guys are having or thinking about it.
Q: does it gain more power???

A: to me it feel the same.


You may gain some power (maybe 1-2 whp) but nothing you'll be able to notice.

The real benefit is the increase in efficiency of the electrical system (brighter lights, louder sound system, etc.).
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xxmonkeyboixx Mar 25, 6:40pm - #424269 

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how many feet would that be total???

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maingear Mar 26, 2:19am - #424270 

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Load rating for 14VDC

2 gauge 150A @ 40 foot
4 gauge 100A @ 40 foot
10 gauge 70A @ 12 foot
12 gauge 50A @ 12 foot

The longest piece of wire I used was 4 foot long. Why is anyone using 4 Gauge for anything other than the starter, sound system, or Lights??? Is it for looks? the numbers do not add up!!

Information taken from the Code of Federal Regulations Section 14 (Federal Aviation Regulation) Advisory Circular 43.13-1B REV Feb 02

If anyone has a engineering handbook, one can see that the shorter runs I made will have higher capacity than 70A with a 10 Gauge wire!!

Let's do the math before money is wasted and too much weight is added for the same gains!
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xxmonkeyboixx Mar 26, 2:24am - #424271 

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^---- i meant what is the required foot total for all the grounding??? so if i go buy my wires i'll know how many feet to buy.. hehehe

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maingear Mar 26, 2:47am - #424272 

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I can't remember, I had it on a roll. Cut to fit, beat to match!! spineyes
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kmlgts Mar 26, 2:49am - #424273 

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about 90-95 inch

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xxmonkeyboixx Mar 26, 2:54am - #424274 

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oh man... frown hmmm so 4 gauge would be good enough or 2 gauge?? dont they have those wires at home depot???

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maingear Mar 26, 3:14am - #424275 

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I used 10 gauge wires and it worked awsome! I can get away with it because I have the stock sound and lights.

What is the greatest electrical load once the engine has started??

I will run a deticated grounds for my amp and lights when I get around to installing the aftermarket components.

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xxmonkeyboixx Mar 26, 3:17am - #424276 

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hmmm i have a 1200 watts amp with a 1400 watt subs...im gettin a headunit pretty soon. so 4 gauge should be good enough rite?? oh yea also gettin another sub and amp...

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maingear Mar 26, 3:57am - #424277 

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4 Gauge 150A at 16'
2 Gauge 200A at 16'
I would run a set of 2 gauge wires from the batery to amps. In 16 feet of 2 Gauge, 12VDC X 200A = 2400 watts of continous power.

These values are for only 1V on drop, so it will preform very well. I wouldn't use the body for a ground. I would run them directly to the amps, hooking the amps in parallel to the power source. Get silver or gold coated copper wire. The current runs in the outer edge of the cable.

If the engine has factory electrical components on it is way overkill to use anything over 10 gauge on the engine.
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