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kmlgts Mar 18, 6:32am - #419885 

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Grounding Kit

those of you with Grounding Kit, after you install the kit does it make any difference? another question when you connect the kit to negative terminal do you still connect the old negative wire back to the terminal or just the new wire(kit)?

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Chelica815 Mar 18, 7:08am - #419886 
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I dunno about feeling any difference, I hardly notice anything, lol. But I still connect the old negative wire back + new wire.

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sweetnuts4sale Mar 18, 9:02am - #419887 
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i gave me a dyno'd tested 27hp to the wheels wink not to mention torque grin

just joking rofl i don't even have a grounding kit yet. but i do believe you want both new and old negative wires connected
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e_degala Mar 18, 9:57am - #419888 

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i got the grounding wires from teamcelica a while back. they just made the car seem a bit stronger and less likely to stall than before. scc did a thing on grounding kits a while back and it looked like the car gained like 5%-7%

are you talking 'bout wires or a real grounding kit like kuwano dps metal plus? i thought with those kits you had to try them all over to find the optimum mounting point? and without dyno testing each area, how would you find the optimum grounding point to place the box?

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kmlgts Mar 18, 5:06pm - #419889 

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there's install guide for ground kit in the installation section. did you connect the old negative back to the terminal?

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JettaMan Mar 18, 5:50pm - #419890 

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the grounding kits give a consistant of 1-2 WHP just because the spark in the engine will be stronger. The connection to the frame will be stronger.

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sickcelica696 Mar 18, 6:50pm - #419891 
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No true actually, the grounding kit is used for starting better and clear energy transmission, it doesnt give you magic hp
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Speed4TheNeed Mar 18, 8:20pm - #419892 

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^^ it's not supposed 2. but dynos DO show a consistent 1-2 whp gain though. i can't figure it out either bro, but it does.
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kmlgts Mar 18, 8:27pm - #419893 

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all talk but no answer. do any of you connect the old negative back? or just the new negative?

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Live42day Mar 18, 8:38pm - #419894 

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CELIBORGY Mar 19, 12:53am - #419895 
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GTS2003BLK Mar 19, 1:15am - #419896 

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It's not going to hurt anything if you connect the old one as well as the new ones, I did an it runs just fine.

With my kit I noticed the engine starts quicker than before, noticed a slight power increas as well.
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B Side Mar 19, 1:17am - #419897 

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keep the old negative plugged into the battery, then you should run 2 of the ground wires off of that. one from the negative to the frame on the side of the car (driver side), then one to the transmission, tranny to block, block to other side of block, then block to other side of frame (passenger side. but do keep the old grounding wire hooked to the battery. look in the install section for the specific locations.
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robare99 Mar 19, 1:57am - #419898 

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I totally removed the stock groundwires. They're redundant.
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sweetnuts4sale Mar 19, 9:50am - #419899 
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^^^ why do you say that?


your adding the wires for a purpose if you take the factory wires away wouldn't the grounding kit doi just about the same as oem?? wouldn't be the same as factory but only a differnt route?
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Speed4TheNeed Mar 19, 12:57pm - #419900 

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Originally Posted by GTS2003BLK

With my kit I noticed the engine starts quicker than before, noticed a slight power increas as well.


i doubt this solely for the fact that it's hard to notice at the MAX 2 whp.
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gunnypapa_at_sec Mar 19, 1:16pm - #419901 
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Originally Posted by robare99
I totally removed the stock groundwires. They're redundant.


Robare99 is correct thumbsup Leaving them there would also defeat the purpose of installing the Upgraded Grounding Wires.

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GTS2003BLK Mar 19, 5:05pm - #419902 

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Originally Posted by Speed4TheNeed

Originally Posted by GTS2003BLK


With my kit I noticed the engine starts quicker than before, noticed a slight power increas as well.


i doubt this solely for the fact that it's hard to notice at the MAX 2 whp.


Doubt it all you want; I'm in tune enough with my vehicle to notice.

On cold mornings I can feel that slight increase in power vs a hot afternoon; that difference is but a few horses.

When the dealership put a GT Oil Filter on my GTS by mistake my first tip off that something was wrong was the engine felt ever so slightly more sluggish, again this difference was likely only 1 or 2 hp. Its a matter of perception.
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kmlgts Mar 19, 5:08pm - #419903 

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thanks for the info thumbsup

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Carbonblue2005GT Mar 20, 9:20am - #419904 

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As long as you have a good (new) ground connection to the body/chassis with your new ground wires, you don't need to keep the old one. I suggest remove old one, and put a new 4 gauge wire for replacement.

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beano457 Mar 20, 11:23pm - #419905 
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Originally Posted by sickcelica696
No true actually, the grounding kit is used for starting better and clear energy transmission, it doesnt give you magic hp


Not true. It has been shown time and time again that grounding kits consistently generate anywhere from a 2-4hp gain. see below.

TAken from ImportTuner

"The last item to install and test was the Hyperground ground wire system. The installation was very simple and involved grounding the engine in series at several different points in the engine bay. Without fully understanding the technology behind the unit, we were doubtful that this would make any noticeable horsepower. The tale of the tape showed differently, however; the power graph smoothed out (in the upwards direction) from 2000-4500rpm, and then really shined in the 4500-6000 rpm range, making an almost evenly distributed 3-5 hp gain. The power gain tapered from 6000 rpm to redline, but still managed to bump peak power output to 122.4. According to Hyperground, playing with different grounding spots can generate even more power."
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Miketrd Mar 21, 2:33am - #419906 
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Where can i get a ground wire kit???
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pfcnguyen Mar 21, 3:02am - #419907 

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Originally Posted by beano457

Originally Posted by sickcelica696

No true actually, the grounding kit is used for starting better and clear energy transmission, it doesnt give you magic hp


Not true. It has been shown time and time again that grounding kits consistently generate anywhere from a 2-4hp gain. see below.

TAken from ImportTuner

"The last item to install and test was the Hyperground ground wire system. The installation was very simple and involved grounding the engine in series at several different points in the engine bay. Without fully understanding the technology behind the unit, we were doubtful that this would make any noticeable horsepower. The tale of the tape showed differently, however; the power graph smoothed out (in the upwards direction) from 2000-4500rpm, and then really shined in the 4500-6000 rpm range, making an almost evenly distributed 3-5 hp gain. The power gain tapered from 6000 rpm to redline, but still managed to bump peak power output to 122.4. According to Hyperground, playing with different grounding spots can generate even more power."


NOT for a 1.8L Celica.

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Speed4TheNeed Mar 21, 2:54pm - #419908 

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^^ nope. expect 1-2 whp max for our cars...and it's just as likely that you'll lose 1-2 whp as well (it works both ways). the only way to be sure is to have a dynonameter on hand and keep playing with the grounding locations
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renfield90 Mar 22, 8:54am - #419909 

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You aren't gonna feel the difference...and 1-2 WHP is within the margin of error of a dyno, so it may not even be possible to dyno-tune the grounding locations. I've heard that the bigger gains are in low and mid-range torque, but again these gains are within the margin of error.

What you will notice are your brighter lights, louder sound system, and (in some cases) a smoother idle. I still can't believe how my stock system can pump as loud as it does - obviously not like an amp and subs, but definitely enough to put my friend's headunit to shame.

Originally Posted by Miketrd
Where can i get a ground wire kit???


I and many others have the Tuned Innovations kit:
www.tunedinnovations.com
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