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Mar 15, 11:53am - #417282 
Decision - Turbo or Rims/Lower

Alright, I have the option to either turbo charge my 2003 Celica GT, or get rims/tires and lower it. I am getting a Carbon Fiber Hood and have a white car, going for the black/white exterior. I'm not sure if I should just turbo my baby right now or if I should finish off the exterior looks first.

Also, what are the benefits of turbo charging?

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Mar 15, 11:55am - #417283 
...i say wheelz and a drop thumbsup !!! what kinda wheelz you gettin????


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Mar 15, 1:24pm - #417284 
Originally Posted by celicajonz
...i say wheelz and a drop thumbsup !!! what kinda wheelz you gettin????
thanks for the input kiss I'm not sure what kind yet, but I know the style - black/gunmetal with chrome ring, should tie in the Carbon Fiber Hood, Mirrors, and blacked out taillights nicely. I don't want to overdo the Carbon Fiber. LOL, makes me wonder...for those Carbon Fiber lovers...if they make Carbon Fiber wheels rofl I wouldn't go THAT far hahahaha.

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Mar 15, 1:27pm - #417285 
They do make Carbon Fiber wheels... Let me get the link...


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of those speedchips! I figure if 1 gets me 20hp then 10 will get me 200hp!
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Mar 15, 1:36pm - #417286 
that should be no contest definately turbo...as long as its c2 gas


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Mar 15, 1:38pm - #417287 
Well, I can't find the link but I have a pic of it in my IT mag. The wheel is the Armano Reactor Carbon Fiber Look wheel. Comes in 18" and 19", it's 7 spoke with a polished lip... Good luck finding them! In my mag it says they are at tires.com, but I can't find them there.

The package should cost $1419 plus shipping or atleast that's what the mag says... That's for 18's with tires...


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Mar 15, 1:50pm - #417288 
TURBO!!!!!!! Why would you need rims right now? I would have the power first, then go for looks.

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Mar 15, 1:52pm - #417289 
Turbo all the way man.


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Mar 15, 2:04pm - #417290 
i would get a turbo if i could afford it but i dont race so i opted for rims. either would be awesome.

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Mar 15, 2:09pm - #417291 
holy crap if you have to ask that question then you should trade your celica in and get a astro van...TURBO LADY!!!!

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Mar 15, 2:13pm - #417292 
Originally Posted by lpfan076
Turbo all the way man.

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Mar 15, 2:17pm - #417293 
This should be a question of whetehr you want to be fast, or look fast.

I say turbo.


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Mar 15, 2:19pm - #417294 
also if your going turbo, it helps to upgrade your internals 1st, like pistons, connecting rods, valves, valve springs, retainers, sleeves, etc... so later on in the future you won't pay for more work then you have to in the future..


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Mar 15, 2:21pm - #417295 
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Mar 15, 3:45pm - #417296 
How are these comparable? A turbo is about 5500 after everything while rims/tires plus springs/struts are around 1800. spineyes I would say rims/tires and springs/struts and then turbo it once the speed gets too old and your car will last longer then.


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Mar 15, 4:04pm - #417297 
get rims/tires, Hotchkis TVS. you can only go so fast. and i doubt you take your car to the track so turbo will be useless and a waste of gas.


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Mar 15, 4:27pm - #417298 
depends what you do more if your celica is more of a daily driver then go for the rims/springs but if you race a lot and everything go for the turbo c2gas thumbsup


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Mar 15, 4:52pm - #417299 
Originally Posted by SLVCELI

How are these comparable? A turbo is about 5500 after everything while rims/tires plus springs/struts are around 1800.


my thoughts exactly...i was scrolling down to write this before i saw slvceli's post...they arent comparable at all...you could get a kit, rims, spoiler, Hood, springs...lots for the price of a turbo kit

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Mar 15, 5:28pm - #417300 
Thanks for all the replies guys, I know turboing it would be a lot more but I have a bunch of extra money coming in and I wasn't sure where I should start. I think I'm going to do exterior looks first and work up to performance, right now I think I'd rather have the looks than the speed. I'll just set the money aside and look further into everything turboing it would require as far as money/time/benefits go.

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Mar 15, 6:30pm - #417301 
TURBO!

Way, way, way more fun. People wont even see your rims when your blowing past them eek grin grin grin

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Mar 15, 7:12pm - #417302 
Id go for the wheels and drop..if you go turbo now, ud be spending a hell of a lot of money on petrol, and itll take you a while to save up for the rims, while if you get the rims and lower now, ull be save up money faster fto get the turbo..well that for ppl like me though..its just a suggestion..


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Mar 15, 7:24pm - #417303 
I'm in the same predicament. I'll be in college soon, so if I tried to save for the turbo then, it would take all four years to do it. However, if I turbo now, then I can buy the cheaper stuff over the course of the four years.


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Mar 15, 7:28pm - #417304 
Originally Posted by Clyde
Id go for the wheels and drop..if you go turbo now, ud be spending a hell of a lot of money on petrol, and itll take you a while to save up for the rims, while if you get the rims and lower now, ull be save up money faster fto get the turbo..well that for ppl like me though..its just a suggestion..
Yeah you're right...I didn't think about spending a lot more on petrol. I am just going to do rims/drop and it's gonna be easier to work on saving up for performance after that.

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Mar 15, 7:32pm - #417305 
Im glad you liked my suggestion, cos thats what i would do with my 6th generation celica..i like presentation first..ud want people to look at ur car and admire it..performance should come later..


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Mar 15, 8:29pm - #417306 
wheels and drop...costs less and turbo isnt that worth it to me...be more satisfied with new wheels and suspension mods

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Mar 15, 9:13pm - #417307 
Originally Posted by CelicaGTizzle
Well, I can't find the link but I have a pic of it in my IT mag. The wheel is the Armano Reactor Carbon Fiber Look wheel. Comes in 18" and 19", it's 7 spoke with a polished lip... Good luck finding them! In my mag it says they are at tires.com, but I can't find them there.

The package should cost $1419 plus shipping or atleast that's what the mag says... That's for 18's with tires...
I just found some interesting info on Carbon Fiber rims...http://www.sportscarforums.com/archive/index.php/t-116.html and also found some Carbon Fiber rims since we were talking about them...http://www.onlineshowoff.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1388&PN=1. <<---This is the kind of rims I'm getting, but black, not carbon fiber, or maybe gunmetal...not sure yet.

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Mar 15, 9:42pm - #417308 
well turbo isnt something you can just rush into either. so if you do decide to turbo, you should research A LOT before you jump in with both feet. you should look into whether you would need internals, causes of other blown motors, stuff like that.

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Mar 16, 9:03am - #417309 
just turbo stay at 6 psi forget about internals because those dont need upgraded until you pass like 8 psi imo looks should be last and performance first but really its a persoanl preference for c2 gas you are looking at spending $5,000.00 including install and in a gts i think you will be at 250 hp in a gt i think its like 210 or so, definately worth it imo


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Mar 16, 12:21pm - #417310 
5k would be just for the kit and install maybe tunning but i doubt it. Don't forget clutch, misc. fluids and parts, gauges etc. Your looking at 6k easy said and done.

My kit was $3880 shipped, $300 for clutch, $100 for Turbo Timer, $500 for EBC, THANK GOD I AM getting all my gauges for free. Tunning will run like $300 for the e-manage etc.

A turbo kit is more of an inverstment eek

Wow i didn't realize how much money i just spent in the last 2 months eek eek frown

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Mar 16, 12:55pm - #417311 
Rims and Coilovers dude. Without them you aint gona be able to put the power of a turbo to the ground.


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Mar 16, 1:09pm - #417312 
i thought a stage 1 turbo was made with keeping all else stock and it should work fine


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Mar 16, 1:12pm - #417313 
Quick question, is your car still on warranty? Turbo will void that, if you're not willing to deal with that hassle.


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Mar 16, 1:24pm - #417314 
Originally Posted by celicadragon
i thought a stage 1 turbo was made with keeping all else stock and it should work fine


Yes stage one is for stock except for the Clutch thumbsup

Gauges are for monitoring the turbo system and your engine, Turbo Timer is for letting the oil cool after shutting the car off, EBC is used for a lot of things, upping boost, controlling Boost Creep/Spikes, Better boost reponse etc.

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Mar 16, 1:26pm - #417315 
Originally Posted by jyboygenius
Quick question, is your car still on warranty? Turbo will void that, if you're not willing to deal with that hassle.
No, no more warranty...I voided that with overmileage LOL.

I'm just gonna do rims/coilovers, I would rather do that right now, and would be cheaper...plus, now I'm fighting with the insurance company as of today for the amount they want to settle for. Sooooo turbo will have to wait...I'd rather save up enough to get everything I need for it - I didn't realize there was so much involved.

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Mar 16, 1:29pm - #417316 
TURBO TURBO TURBO. THE FUCKIN BLOW OFF VALVE IS WAY TOO SWEET TO PASS UP.

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Mar 16, 3:04pm - #417317 
Anyone know how long a clutch install takes normall? Also, when installing the c2 turbo, they've gotta pull the engine, right? So wouldn't it take like 10 minutes to install the clutch because the tranny is removed anyway?


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Mar 16, 3:34pm - #417318 
Originally Posted by bajoconstruction
Originally Posted by jyboygenius
Quick question, is your car still on warranty? Turbo will void that, if you're not willing to deal with that hassle.
No, no more warranty...I voided that with overmileage LOL.

I'm just gonna do rims/coilovers, I would rather do that right now, and would be cheaper...plus, now I'm fighting with the insurance company as of today for the amount they want to settle for. Sooooo turbo will have to wait...I'd rather save up enough to get everything I need for it - I didn't realize there was so much involved.


In that case, turbo it is. You've got nothing left to void.


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Mar 17, 5:11am - #417319 
Originally Posted by combatc87
Anyone know how long a clutch install takes normall? Also, when installing the c2 turbo, they've gotta pull the engine, right? So wouldn't it take like 10 minutes to install the clutch because the tranny is removed anyway?


No you don't have to pull the engine to install the C2 kit. What they tell you to do is to loosen the engine mounts and slide the engine forward to allow enough room to get the manifold put in.

I on the otherhand, will be pulling my engine since i am installing the clutch at the same time. I think it will be easier then dropping the tranny and sliding the engine forward thumbsup

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Mar 17, 4:40pm - #417320 
Well, whatever, they've got to disconnect the tranny anyway, so if it's gonna be off anyway, they might as well slap on a new clutch, right?


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Mar 17, 4:49pm - #417321 
screw the turbo...go with spinners and lambo doors... rofl


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Mar 17, 5:26pm - #417322 
Originally Posted by jyboygenius
Quick question, is your car still on warranty? Turbo will void that, if you're not willing to deal with that hassle.


there is a post by someone on this website and they provided great info. if the turbo meets epa or some organizations guidelines( company's product is certified) then federal government says that dealership cannot void aftermarket performance parts unless it caused the damage of the vehicle. if you want to know the exacts then try a search on this website. thumbsup

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Mar 17, 9:54pm - #417323 
Originally Posted by ct
screw the turbo...go with spinners and lambo doors... rofl
LMAO sure, spinners, OK! That's something I'd NEVER put on my car! The lambo doors I actually would like to do. Someone's gotta think of a different way to open doors though...like ones that slide up and into the car or something LOL. Just hit a button and step out haha. There prolly is a car out there like that LOL.

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Mar 17, 11:50pm - #417324 
turbo!

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Mar 17, 11:57pm - #417325 
better idea..donate ur xtra money to help support Larry(me)Wants To Fix Up His Car Foundation thumbsup


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Mar 18, 10:56am - #417326 
i just need $1500 more to order my turbo so if you want ill take that extra $ off your hands


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Mar 18, 5:14pm - #417327 
Originally Posted by celicadragon
i just need $1500 more to order my turbo so if you want ill take that extra $ off your hands
LOL ok hmm let me think about that













































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Mar 19, 11:22pm - #417328 
well its good you even considered it..he..he..


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Mar 21, 9:22am - #417329 
thanks anyway spineyes


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Mar 21, 11:15am - #417330 
i say turbo it my friend has a turbo celica and its hot

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Mar 21, 11:48am - #417331 
I say turbo my bro thumbsup


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