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nvyseal2332 Mar 15, 4:56am - #416822 
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tires chirp?

anyone been able to get their tires to chirp going into second? how? thanks
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IcE_Z Mar 15, 5:32am - #416823 
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i haven't been able to do it nor has any one of my friends. i am getting an ACT clutch soon so i will tell you then. But, 2 things, wrong part of the forum and 2) scratching second isn't all that great. sure it sounds cool to your friends as a way of showing "power" but its better to not bark and get more acceleration out of 2nd then hurting your tranny and losing time
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kmlgts Mar 15, 7:28am - #416824 

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CARBON_SYPHER Mar 15, 12:19pm - #416825 
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easy as hell! just shift out of 1st at almost redline...shift super quick into second and slam the gas...i can do it everytime and i dont even have a short shifter...if you are able to chirp your tires in second and maby third during a race...then you are good to go, that means that you are making some good, quick, solid shifts and you will have some good race times thumbsup

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Mike2000gt Mar 15, 6:58pm - #416826 
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Originally Posted by CARBON_SYPHER
easy as hell! just shift out of 1st at almost redline...shift super quick into second and slam the gas...i can do it everytime and i dont even have a short shifter...if you are able to chirp your tires in second and maby third during a race...then you are good to go, that means that you are making some good, quick, solid shifts and you will have some good race times thumbsup


Yea I can definitely chirp my tires in second gear every time if I wanted. Even before I got my RPS clutch. Not sure why you're having problems doing it.
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silver Mar 15, 8:58pm - #416827 
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Originally Posted by CARBON_SYPHER
easy as hell! just shift out of 1st at almost redline...shift super quick into second and slam the gas...i can do it everytime and i dont even have a short shifter...if you are able to chirp your tires in second and maby third during a race...then you are good to go, that means that you are making some good, quick, solid shifts and you will have some good race times thumbsup


No, it means that you're shifting poorly, which is actually slowing you down because you can't accelerate when the tires are spinning.
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mv6845 Mar 15, 9:02pm - #416828 
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Chirping the tires is really hard on the tranny. Easy to do. Redline 1st and slam it into 2nd and there you go. 3rd is harder but I have done it in a stock GT 5 speed. Easy to do but kills the clutch and tranny. thumbsup
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sbocaj55 Mar 15, 9:09pm - #416829 

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Originally Posted by silver
Originally Posted by CARBON_SYPHER
easy as hell! just shift out of 1st at almost redline...shift super quick into second and slam the gas...i can do it everytime and i dont even have a short shifter...if you are able to chirp your tires in second and maby third during a race...then you are good to go, that means that you are making some good, quick, solid shifts and you will have some good race times thumbsup


No, it means that you're shifting poorly, which is actually slowing you down because you can't accelerate when the tires are spinning.


it's easy to chirp your tires like everyone said if you shift at 8k and hit the gas. But if you do this really 'well'...you'll land your shift at about 7k...but notice your rpms will drop down to about 6 until your wheels gain traction again. It's good that you're landing in lift, yes, but too much wheelspin slows you down. The 'trick' is to land the 1-2 shift in lift..with minimal wheelspin...so the power you are making way up there in the rpm band is translated straight ahead...not into 'cool factor' of chirping ur tires.
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nvyseal2332 Mar 16, 1:26am - #416830 
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thanks! i just got my new clutch and fidanza flywheel put in along with new tires so maybe after i wear the clutch in properly...
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spaztikid Mar 16, 3:48am - #416831 
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Originally Posted by mv6845
Chirping the tires is really hard on the tranny. Easy to do. Redline 1st and slam it into 2nd and there you go. 3rd is harder but I have done it in a stock GT 5 speed. Easy to do but kills the clutch and tranny. thumbsup


who told you that?
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Lucky_317 Mar 16, 7:51am - #416832 

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this is a stupid thread. just like the other one.

chirping is for birds NOT tires. if you're "chirping" the tires it means you're not driving right and you're slowing yourself down.

I hate when people think this is a sign of power. it means you need better coordination. it mostly happens from poor clutch - gas timing.


watch any of my videos and tell me how many times you hear me chirp the tires rolleyes

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Lucky_317 Mar 16, 7:57am - #416833 

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this idiot thought "chirping" was so cool too. he attempted to create a "chirp in 3rd to show off his "power" by pulling up briefly on the e-brake. (this is done often by the mustang ricers, yes, they have their own idiots)

here's the video of darwin at work.
http://www.fordpower.net/05gt.wmv

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GT4 Mar 16, 9:23am - #416834 

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If you chirp the tires = You don't know how to launch your car properly
or = your tires suck

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CARBON_SYPHER Mar 16, 12:27pm - #416835 
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i must be confused because when i was talking about chirping the tires in a race...i ment that the tires literally chirp once... not chirping multiple times and loosing traction!...just that one-chirp that you get when shifting to second and the car lurches forward when the tires grab (no lag in RPM). do yall know what i am talking about or am i just stupid?...lucky, you are the exbert here! school me real good! thumbsup

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JettaMan Mar 16, 2:27pm - #416836 

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that small chirp is still the tires losing traction for a quick second there for you are losing valuable time.. that in some races will matter. A perfect shift would be no lose of traction, no chirp, and still getting the surge of power foward

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nvyseal2332 Mar 16, 7:34pm - #416837 
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i shift fine and so you dont have to make fun. whenever i race all my shifts are perfect. i was just asking, for the purpose of fun only, how to do it. a lot of you guys are straight up jerks. its not like im a bad driver.
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SCOTT03 Mar 16, 9:15pm - #416838 
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Originally Posted by Lucky_317
this is a stupid thread. just like the other one.

chirping is for birds NOT tires. if you're "chirping" the tires it means you're not driving right and you're slowing yourself down.

I hate when people think this is a sign of power. it means you need better coordination. it mostly happens from poor clutch - gas timing.


watch any of my videos and tell me how many times you hear me chirp the tires rolleyes


ok, heres a pre PFC vid of you "chirping/spinning" your wheels to land 2nd gear in lift. Like i said in the other post chirping tires in most cases slows you down but like everyone in the celica community knows, landing 2nd gear without "chirping" at 5800ish is a lot slower than landing 2nd gear "chirping" at 6300ish
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Lucky_317 Mar 17, 5:33am - #416839 

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^^ like I said it slows you down. also notice the drag radials on. That video is a perfect example of what I was talking about. the next run I made that night I ran an 8.9 (lemme look for the video link.) It was my first time running dr's and it was a lil wierd for me lol

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Lucky_317 Mar 17, 5:44am - #416840 

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also it was my first time running another setup that I'm not gonna explain lol you can clearly hear the difference in these vids (all done the same night.)

9.004
https://www.celicahobby.com/vip/albums/album20/9004_G.wmv

8.964
https://www.celicahobby.com/vip/albums/album20/8964_G.wmv

this is a different day but I love watchin this hatch getting rocked.
9.054
https://www.celicahobby.com/vip/albums/album20/9054_G.wmv

here's another one I like that went very well. 14.0 with a 30 mph head wind lol normal trap for me is 100mph and on that run I trapped 94. tells ya how much wind can affect things.

https://www.celicahobby.com/vip/albums/album20/mevsmustanggt.wmv

I post all vids I take. including the ones I don't do so hot in. wink cause nobodys perfect.

glad you found that one cause it's a great example of what NOT to do and why NOT to do it. thumbsup

I'll try to find some old ones on street tires.

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Lucky_317 Mar 17, 5:47am - #416841 

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heres my first ever trip to irwindale rofl I cant believe I drove that bad haha
no chirping but I just couldnt launch hehe
https://www.celicahobby.com/vip/albums/album20/mevsrsx.wmv

here's from inside the car...
https://www.celicahobby.com/vip/albums/album20/TTFN.wmv

this shows the "little wheel spin" I was talkin about. big difference from chirping.

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CARBON_SYPHER Mar 17, 12:19pm - #416842 
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this has actualy turned into a cool drag thread! many cool vids and dos and donts. many things can be learned from ignorance! grin thumbsup

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SCOTT03 Mar 17, 2:17pm - #416843 
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my question is how are you supposed to land lift without the wheelspin and run a decent time with stock ecu?

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Superstuddc27 Mar 18, 1:30am - #416844 
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Originally Posted by SCOTT03
my question is how are you supposed to land lift without the wheelspin and run a decent time with stock ecu?


It isn't hard at all. I always land lift at 8400 redline and don't chirp at all. Like lucky said, chirping doesn't mean you're going faster.

Nice driving lucky... damn you ran 14.0 N/A? geez.. what are your mods? Ahaha
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thE_laW Mar 18, 1:40am - #416845 

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Originally Posted by Lucky_317
this idiot thought "chirping" was so cool too. he attempted to create a "chirp in 3rd to show off his "power" by pulling up briefly on the e-brake. (this is done often by the mustang ricers, yes, they have their own idiots)

here's the video of darwin at work.
http://www.fordpower.net/05gt.wmv



noice! that was funny as sh*t

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401Celica Mar 20, 11:19am - #416846 
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Originally Posted by Lucky_317
this is a stupid thread. just like the other one.

chirping is for birds NOT tires. if you're "chirping" the tires it means you're not driving right and you're slowing yourself down.

I hate when people think this is a sign of power. it means you need better coordination. it mostly happens from poor clutch - gas timing.


watch any of my videos and tell me how many times you hear me chirp the tires rolleyes


I agree that it slow you down. But imo, I think it shows that you have some skills in shifting and being consistent. I can do it sometimes from shifting 1st to 2nd but never did it to 3rd (not enough torque). now that I have 18's, I can't do it at all.

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slidr Mar 22, 12:21am - #416847 

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Originally Posted by SCOTT03
my question is how are you supposed to land lift without the wheelspin and run a decent time with stock ecu?
Shift at fuel cut and when you get back on the gas, time the gas with the clutch correctly, and don't give it an insane amount of gas before you release the clutch completely.

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SCOTT03 Mar 22, 2:29am - #416848 
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i'm not gonna argue this anymore but gear ratios with stock wheels shifting at 8350rpm will not land you in lift... Wheel spin or slipping the clutch must occur to land 2nd gear in lift

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Superstuddc27 Mar 22, 4:20am - #416849 
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Originally Posted by SCOTT03
i'm not gonna argue this anymore but gear ratios with stock wheels shifting at 8350rpm will not land you in lift... Wheel spin or slipping the clutch must occur to land 2nd gear in lift



Probably true.. if you're talking about my post up there being able to land lift while not chirping.. that's because i dont have stock tires. I have he stock 16" GTS rims, but for the tires, i have kumho supra z-rated, which is probably why i dont chirp at all for anthing.
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Yes me too pretty easy! smile it is cool but don't beat on it all the time can't hurt the poor girl!!!!
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