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ForceFed Mar 5, 8:40pm - #411057 

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short throw shifter

I want to buy a short throw shifter but when I was in my friend erics car it was hard to shift. It felt really stiff.

Whats the ups and downs of a short throw shifter? what on should I get?

cant say ive done that before... ahh crap
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gtscelica05 Mar 5, 8:45pm - #411058 
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even tho is stiffer, you'll get use to it in no time. Its worth it. one of the best mod i did. You get faster shifting.

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ForceFed Mar 5, 8:51pm - #411059 

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humm... are the cheap ebay ones worth it?

cant say ive done that before... ahh crap
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tgts2000 Mar 5, 8:58pm - #411060 

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^^ Risky, i'd say get a TWM. I had it and loved it! Check out twmperformance.com thumbsup
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vcel523 Mar 6, 1:05am - #411061 

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I've heard its really stiff for the first few weeks, but it gets somewhat better. go for it dude, if I had a manual cry I totally would thumbsup
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hombredelassrtas Mar 6, 2:35am - #411062 

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i hear twm is hardest becsue its shortest. I woudl say get b&m, its not as short but easier to shift smile You are going to hear both sides btu it really has to do with what you want. Bm is nto as short as other but is easier to shift. twm is really short so looks better but is a tad harder. So its up to you smile

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gtscelica05 Mar 6, 8:34am - #411063 
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B&M thumbsup

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ForceFed Mar 6, 11:53pm - #411064 

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well I dont want a really short one because then my arms wouldnt reach when I go into either 1st 3rd or 5th and I dont want to hit the e-brake handle when shifing into 2nd 4th and 6th. Maybe im just thinkin too much about it...

B&M it is. Thanks guys thumbsup

cant say ive done that before... ahh crap
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hs2g Mar 7, 12:52am - #411065 
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Every thought about TRD? I hear they give the smooth stock feel and isn't as short as the TWM. I think 40% shorter than stock.
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ForceFed Mar 7, 1:41am - #411066 

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you know that thought never crossed my mind... I have to look into those. Well I didnt even know TRD made a short shifter haha.

cant say ive done that before... ahh crap
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SatinSilverGTS Mar 7, 2:14am - #411067 

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TWM is the shortest one sitting in the celica height wise...B&M Actually has the shortest throw.

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silverOOgts Mar 8, 6:23am - #411068 

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i would not recommed the twm, the b&m seems to be better, i wish thats what i would have got

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ForceFed Mar 8, 6:25am - #411069 

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I just drove erics car around today and he has the twm. shorter then I want but I got used to it real fast. So I guess im leaning towards the B&M now.

cant say ive done that before... ahh crap
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EuRoBoYGT Mar 8, 8:43am - #411070 

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get TRD it has the smoothest throw. i have it and i love it thumbsup

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Marlyman Mar 8, 10:46am - #411071 

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TWM all the way thumbsup
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ForceFed Mar 8, 2:52pm - #411072 

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ok whats the price difference between the TRD, twm, and b&m?

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Gen7fan Mar 8, 9:14pm - #411073 
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B&M you can pick up for $120 (or so) with new bushings, knob and lube included

TWM runs around $ 130 without bushings or new knob, $223 with the new knob but still no bushings

TRD runs $130 but does not fit all gen7 celicas also does not come with new bushing or a new knob
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CELIBORGY Mar 8, 9:59pm - #411074 
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get B&M from suprastore.com thumbsup

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ForceFed Mar 8, 11:37pm - #411075 

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why wouldnt the TRD fit all 7th gen celicas?

cant say ive done that before... ahh crap
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VSGTS14 Mar 9, 12:17am - #411076 

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TRD doesn't fit the cars manufactured after May of 2001
the shift gates were changed, but the rod can be swapped out...just not the entire assembly

just get B&M, i love it, so easy and is awesome

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ForceFed Mar 9, 12:31am - #411077 

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ok b&m it is

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Celica2k Mar 9, 3:25am - #411078 

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i think the twm looks so much better though
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Superstuddc27 Mar 9, 8:00am - #411079 
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B&M knockoff's from Megan Racing is $45-50 shipped. Go to google and type in "megan racing short shifter". It's EXACTLY like B&M with aluminum bushings included. You only need to buy lithium grease yourself but that's like 3bucks.
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ForceFed Mar 12, 2:08am - #411080 

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really! nice! thanks for the info.

cant say ive done that before... ahh crap
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GTSGhostRida Mar 12, 5:12am - #411081 

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my b&m shifter came with everything except the knob, but the stock leather knob looks way better than a metal one anyways...very easy install, only bad thing is the stiffness, but that goes away in a week or so...b&m is a good shifter...
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mv6845 Mar 14, 5:33pm - #411082 
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I got my B&M last week and it too didn't come with the knob. Oh well I have a authentic TRD knob. Shifter looks and feels great.
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Relic Mar 17, 3:13pm - #411083 

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eric_h Mar 17, 4:46pm - #411084 

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Originally Posted by Gen7fan
B&M you can pick up for $120 (or so) with new bushings, knob and lube included

TWM runs around $ 130 without bushings or new knob, $223 with the new knob but still no bushings

TRD runs $130 but does not fit all gen7 celicas also does not come with new bushing or a new knob


BS, i got my TWM for 129 shipped with aluminum bushings.

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christorres Mar 17, 6:28pm - #411085 

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i just got mine from ebay for 40 bucks and it works fine. came with everything.the shift is stiff but i like it

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Relic Mar 17, 6:33pm - #411086 

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Does it look like any of the ones mentioned above?
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celicajonz Mar 17, 6:59pm - #411087 
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..i just installed my twm yesterday...real stiff n yeah the shifts feel shorter...ill give it a couple weeks to smooth out... i like it thumbsup

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dansgts Mar 17, 9:26pm - #411088 

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man, you 7th gens suck tongue
my only option is the twm, that or cut my stock one, which i did spineyes
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cwsample Mar 18, 5:01pm - #411089 

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i got the OBX from eBay, $75 shipped...no complaints whatsoever...perfect throw, i love it

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celicafourotwo Mar 19, 1:39am - #411090 

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fidanza here. 61.99 shipped from ultrarev.com...just install it today..
short throw, i like it..not too stiff..here's a pic for ya
1953529801-SSCOMPARE 2.jpg

Originally Posted by pesho01
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Whenever my car is at a full stop or even in park the RPM never sits on 0. what does this mean?
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celicafourotwo Mar 19, 1:40am - #411091 

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one more
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Originally Posted by pesho01
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Whenever my car is at a full stop or even in park the RPM never sits on 0. what does this mean?
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celicafourotwo Mar 19, 1:42am - #411092 

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Originally Posted by pesho01
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Whenever my car is at a full stop or even in park the RPM never sits on 0. what does this mean?
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Celica_Noob Mar 19, 6:36pm - #411093 
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So the B&M has the shortest throw? And can't you adjust the height when you install?

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Celica2k Mar 21, 5:01pm - #411094 

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yes it has the shortest throw and no you cant adjust the height unless you cut it yourself
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TWM Performance Mar 21, 5:14pm - #411095 
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Originally Posted by Gen7fan
B&M you can pick up for $120 (or so) with new bushings, knob and lube included

TWM runs around $ 130 without bushings or new knob, $223 with the new knob but still no bushings


Partially correct, our shifter is on sale for $132.95 right now including shipping but we do include aluminum bushings with every one of our 7th gen Celica kits. The bushings actually make a huge difference in shift feel and remove virtually all of the "play" from the shifter. You can purchase them here: http://www.twmperformance.com/shortshifters/toyotashortshifters/celicashortshifters.htm

If you have any questions you can reach me anytime at [email]sales@twmperformance.com.[/email]

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ForceFed Mar 27, 10:36pm - #411096 

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its been awhile. I bought a b&m short throw. thanks for all your input

cant say ive done that before... ahh crap
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hombredelassrtas Mar 27, 10:45pm - #411097 

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wow i think i am goign to look into the fidanza one thumbsup

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