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Feb 24, 6:00pm - #408957 
If i get this, do i still need the Power FC and Commander?

this product: http://www.zeitronix.com/Products/zt2/zt2.htm

I know this gets rid of having some gauges but do i still need to get the Power FC and Commander if i get the sensors? It says i can tune the A/F Ratio and stuff if you get the sensors but would it be better to just get both? thanks

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Feb 24, 6:04pm - #408958 
I believe all that does is give you read outs so you can tune the controler


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Feb 24, 6:25pm - #408959 
what? the zeitronix? so i should get both so i can cut down on the gauges?

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Feb 24, 10:59pm - #408960 
That is a wideband. It's the best and most accurate type of gauge for reading air/fuel ratios, you would use that instead of an air/fuel gauge or EGT gauge. Has nothing to do with the Power FC which would be your actual ecu. The Power FC replaces your stock ecu. The commander allows you to see certain functions while driving and also allows you to tune your power fc. The commander is not necessary, in fact most people just prefer the datalogit.

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Feb 25, 5:58pm - #408961 
sweet thanks John...wtf is the datalogit? The commander is free right now if i got the Power FC from Monkeywrenchingracing..

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Feb 25, 9:05pm - #408962 
The datalogit is the actual software that allows you to fully program the power fc. You need a laptop to utilize this. You would load the software onto your laptop and then plug it into the power fc. The datalogit allows you to program every parameter that the power fc has. The commander more or less is used mainly for monitoring and allows for adjustments of some parameters but not all. Essentially, to fully tune the power fc you need the datalogit, but you can make minor changes with the commander.

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Feb 25, 11:35pm - #408963 
was wondering this about the comander too.. I've got a laptop so would be no problem to plug it in.. but if one were cheap and were able to chat on this forum they could hook up their desktop to the car with a few extention cords.. so then commander is pretty much not needed then right?

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Feb 26, 12:05am - #408964 
Not really unless you were on a dyno, how would you drive with a desktop hooked up to your car. You wouldnt be able to street tune like that. I guess on a dyno it would be possible because your car doesnt go anywhere. But yeah the commander is not needed, like i said most tuners dont use it they just use the datalogit. Almost everyone if they dont own a laptop themselves know someone who does.

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Feb 26, 11:15am - #408965 
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Feb 26, 2:12pm - #408966 
sweet thanks for all the info!

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