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celicajonz Feb 14, 3:59pm - #399772 
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...short shifter question?

...for those who have em...which one performs better...b&m or twm short shifter, or are they bout the same????

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hombredelassrtas Feb 14, 4:25pm - #399773 

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differences are:

b&m = taller, and i think easier throws
twm = shorter, i hear some peopel misshift but i ams ure if you knwo waht ur doing it wont matter.

Both are much shorter then stock but twm is a ton smaller then stock. so i think its waht you want. i believe prerformance is about the same

Then again i am commonly wrong so hopefully someone else knows.

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GTSGhostRida Feb 14, 4:33pm - #399774 

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dont know about twm but the B&M is a pretty good shifter...i have it know and its a pretty good mod...i couldnt handle a super low shifter like the twm is supose to give, the b&m is a good size IMO
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Marlyman Feb 14, 4:57pm - #399775 

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dont know about b&m. i just installed twm shifter. its tight as hell and a little bit squeky at the moment . i rekon that will come out of it. i never miss a shift by the way
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celicajonz Feb 14, 5:12pm - #399776 
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Originally Posted by Marlyman
dont know about b&m. i just installed twm shifter. its tight as hell and a little bit squeky at the moment . i rekon that will come out of it. i never miss a shift by the way



...coo cause i mine should b here on wed. hey is it tight like sweet or tight like carful shifts???...

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My Sixth Gear Feb 14, 7:51pm - #399777 
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make sure to grease up the ball joints

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Polykarb Feb 14, 8:50pm - #399778 

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i have B&M and it pwns. Tight feel and accurate throws into the gate, a good item to have.

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spectraGTS Feb 14, 9:06pm - #399779 

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Anyone put a fidanza in their celi? Or am I the only one? I put it in about two weeks ago. It was really stiff at first, but after a 1823 mile road trip, its pretty smooth now. I'm gonna check it this weekend and re-grease the ball joints on it. Shorter throws, and I stick my shifts every time. So far, I like it. Its cheaper too. ~$60 + shipping.
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hombredelassrtas Feb 14, 11:27pm - #399780 

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i have no idea what ur talking about. post more info and pics

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celicajonz Feb 14, 11:27pm - #399781 
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...yeah i was kinda lost too when i read this...thought i was the only 1 confused

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spectraGTS Feb 14, 11:39pm - #399782 

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Fidanza makes a short shifter as well. I'll post pix when I can. I'll try to find a link as well.
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spectraGTS Feb 14, 11:41pm - #399783 

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celicajonz Feb 14, 11:42pm - #399784 
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...that coo...hope my twm works out well thumbsdown thumbsup

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I hit, what else, oh plus dome.
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hombredelassrtas Feb 15, 3:09am - #399785 

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did it come with everyhting you need. the pin, brushings ect?? or jsut the rod itself?

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barefoott4 Feb 15, 5:22am - #399786 
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Don't forget the TRD shifter. I love mine, it's plenty short if you don't want to sacrifice your easy slide-into-gear stock feel. The throws are super short, but it feels like stock when sliding into gear.
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EuRoBoYGT Feb 15, 5:26am - #399787 

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^^^^^^ yeah i love my TRD ss feels good the shifts feel real smooth it does feel like stock but with shorter gears

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Clos Feb 15, 5:43am - #399788 
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here let my break it down
B&M = shorter than stock, shortest throw
TRD = shorter than stock, stock feel but shorter throw
TWM = shortest, stiff and some say its hard like shit to get to reverse.
imo i would go for ether B&M or TRD if you want shorter shift, but if you want looks go for TWM thumbsup
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Grand-Touring-Dan Feb 15, 6:52am - #399789 
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B&M shortens shifts 38%
TWM shortens 60%

Both MAY increase misshifts, TWM will be more of a probability. I can see how TWM may be uncomfortable for daily driving.
I have B&M on my daily driver. Only have good things to say. Plus...easy install.

You do the math.

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celicajonz Feb 15, 9:28pm - #399790 
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...dam!!! i seconded guessing twm...ill c whats up when it arrives... frown...n-e good sites to go on for the best price for B&M?.?.?.?...

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I hit, what else, oh plus dome.
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celiwhite Feb 15, 9:37pm - #399791 
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i bought the speed source bushings so when i get my b&m it'll make the shifts even smoother
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spectraGTS Feb 16, 5:27pm - #399792 

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The fidanza short shifter came with everything I needed. Bushings, the shifter, and a knob (which I kept the origional leather one). I installed it in about 30 min. It didn't come with instructions, but it is pretty easy to figure out. I'll try to post pics when I can.
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Mike2000gt Feb 16, 6:24pm - #399793 
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I love my B&M!!!
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hombredelassrtas Feb 16, 8:43pm - #399794 

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awomse. i may lookinto that

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L3M1315 Feb 16, 8:49pm - #399795 

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Is there a price difference? I'm too lazy to look them up right now, and I have a meeting in a half hour in another building.

I didn't realize the TWM was that much shorter eek
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AdamVIP Feb 16, 8:52pm - #399796 
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as i found out after i bought my b&m there is a replica of b&m. I believe its called a megan or something to that affect. Its around 50 bones as well.
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hombredelassrtas Feb 16, 8:55pm - #399797 

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ther eis obx too. megan racing makes cheaper parts. liek i have a megan racing strut bar. ti was only 40 as compared to the 100 that thgey normally are.

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L3M1315 Feb 17, 3:35am - #399798 

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$160 for the B&M
$140 for the TWM

Is there really a difference between the '02 and the '00 shifters or right- and left-hand drive cars? TWM's webpage only has '02+ and right-hand-drive for the '00-'02. I guess in that case I'd have to go with the B&M idunno
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Pnoy Feb 17, 4:50pm - #399799 
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i think the 02 has wider shift gates...idunno
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celicajonz Feb 17, 6:21pm - #399800 
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...can you use the TRD s/s for the updated shift gates...ive heard you can use the TRD s/s but just take out the rod itself and not using the TRD housing which assemblied already...is that true thumbsdown thumbsup

Originally posted by A_Bathing_Ape:
I hit, what else, oh plus dome.
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