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Feb 14, 8:59am - #399772 
...short shifter question?

...for those who have em...which one performs better...b&m or twm short shifter, or are they bout the same????


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Feb 14, 9:25am - #399773 
differences are:

b&m = taller, and i think easier throws
twm = shorter, i hear some peopel misshift but i ams ure if you knwo waht ur doing it wont matter.

Both are much shorter then stock but twm is a ton smaller then stock. so i think its waht you want. i believe prerformance is about the same

Then again i am commonly wrong so hopefully someone else knows.

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Feb 14, 9:33am - #399774 
dont know about twm but the B&M is a pretty good shifter...i have it know and its a pretty good mod...i couldnt handle a super low shifter like the twm is supose to give, the b&m is a good size IMO

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Feb 14, 9:57am - #399775 
dont know about b&m. i just installed twm shifter. its tight as hell and a little bit squeky at the moment . i rekon that will come out of it. i never miss a shift by the way

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Feb 14, 10:12am - #399776 
Originally Posted by Marlyman
dont know about b&m. i just installed twm shifter. its tight as hell and a little bit squeky at the moment . i rekon that will come out of it. i never miss a shift by the way



...coo cause i mine should b here on wed. hey is it tight like sweet or tight like carful shifts???...


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Feb 14, 12:51pm - #399777 
make sure to grease up the ball joints


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Feb 14, 1:50pm - #399778 
i have B&M and it pwns. Tight feel and accurate throws into the gate, a good item to have.


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Feb 14, 2:06pm - #399779 
Anyone put a fidanza in their celi? Or am I the only one? I put it in about two weeks ago. It was really stiff at first, but after a 1823 mile road trip, its pretty smooth now. I'm gonna check it this weekend and re-grease the ball joints on it. Shorter throws, and I stick my shifts every time. So far, I like it. Its cheaper too. ~$60 + shipping.

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Feb 14, 4:27pm - #399780 
i have no idea what ur talking about. post more info and pics

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Feb 14, 4:27pm - #399781 
...yeah i was kinda lost too when i read this...thought i was the only 1 confused


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Feb 14, 4:39pm - #399782 
Fidanza makes a short shifter as well. I'll post pix when I can. I'll try to find a link as well.

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Feb 14, 4:41pm - #399783 

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Feb 14, 4:42pm - #399784 
...that coo...hope my twm works out well thumbsdown thumbsup


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Feb 14, 8:09pm - #399785 
did it come with everyhting you need. the pin, brushings ect?? or jsut the rod itself?

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Feb 14, 10:22pm - #399786 
Don't forget the TRD shifter. I love mine, it's plenty short if you don't want to sacrifice your easy slide-into-gear stock feel. The throws are super short, but it feels like stock when sliding into gear.

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Feb 14, 10:26pm - #399787 
^^^^^^ yeah i love my TRD ss feels good the shifts feel real smooth it does feel like stock but with shorter gears


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Feb 14, 10:43pm - #399788 
here let my break it down
B&M = shorter than stock, shortest throw
TRD = shorter than stock, stock feel but shorter throw
TWM = shortest, stiff and some say its hard like shit to get to reverse.
imo i would go for ether B&M or TRD if you want shorter shift, but if you want looks go for TWM thumbsup

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Feb 14, 11:52pm - #399789 
B&M shortens shifts 38%
TWM shortens 60%

Both MAY increase misshifts, TWM will be more of a probability. I can see how TWM may be uncomfortable for daily driving.
I have B&M on my daily driver. Only have good things to say. Plus...easy install.

You do the math.

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Feb 15, 2:28pm - #399790 
...dam!!! i seconded guessing twm...ill c whats up when it arrives... frown...n-e good sites to go on for the best price for B&M?.?.?.?...


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Feb 15, 2:37pm - #399791 
i bought the speed source bushings so when i get my b&m it'll make the shifts even smoother

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Feb 16, 10:27am - #399792 
The fidanza short shifter came with everything I needed. Bushings, the shifter, and a knob (which I kept the origional leather one). I installed it in about 30 min. It didn't come with instructions, but it is pretty easy to figure out. I'll try to post pics when I can.

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Feb 16, 11:24am - #399793 
I love my B&M!!!

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Feb 16, 1:43pm - #399794 
awomse. i may lookinto that

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Feb 16, 1:49pm - #399795 
Is there a price difference? I'm too lazy to look them up right now, and I have a meeting in a half hour in another building.

I didn't realize the TWM was that much shorter eek

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Feb 16, 1:52pm - #399796 
as i found out after i bought my b&m there is a replica of b&m. I believe its called a megan or something to that affect. Its around 50 bones as well.

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Feb 16, 1:55pm - #399797 
ther eis obx too. megan racing makes cheaper parts. liek i have a megan racing strut bar. ti was only 40 as compared to the 100 that thgey normally are.

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Feb 16, 8:35pm - #399798 
$160 for the B&M
$140 for the TWM

Is there really a difference between the '02 and the '00 shifters or right- and left-hand drive cars? TWM's webpage only has '02+ and right-hand-drive for the '00-'02. I guess in that case I'd have to go with the B&M idunno

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Feb 17, 9:50am - #399799 
i think the 02 has wider shift gates...idunno

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Feb 17, 11:21am - #399800 
...can you use the TRD s/s for the updated shift gates...ive heard you can use the TRD s/s but just take out the rod itself and not using the TRD housing which assemblied already...is that true thumbsdown thumbsup


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