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Aug 27, 7:55am - #39900 
6 speed GT

i was reading through nc.org and came across an idea that interested me but i need some feedback. what would be the benifits of throwing a 6 spd gts tranny in my 5 spd gt? let me know everything you think and know thanks.

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Aug 27, 7:58am - #39901 
Is that possible? confused

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Aug 27, 8:07am - #39902 
Anything is possible for the right amount of money...

I want to say it isnt possible because of the gearing...youd have to replace everything just like going from Auto to manual...and thats not fun.


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Aug 27, 8:07am - #39903 
thats what i'm asking

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Aug 27, 9:36am - #39904 
Actually it should bolt right up the UK gt's come with the 6spd tranny and the disk brakes.


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Aug 27, 9:58am - #39905 
Well hell, If thats the case then we might as well go to the UK and buy our GT's from over there, cause they have just a wee bit more horsepower than the US Celica's

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Aug 27, 10:03am - #39906 
GT to 6-speed?
with the GT's engine...and it already has the 5 speed and the gearing ratios are where they should be...
bolting on 6-speed will mess up gearing ratios and do you really need 6 gears on a 140 hp engine?


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Aug 27, 10:56am - #39907 
r you assuming my engine is bone stock?

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Aug 27, 11:05am - #39908 
Originally Posted by Kenred
Well hell, If thats the case then we might as well go to the UK and buy our GT's from over there, cause they have just a wee bit more horsepower than the US Celica's


Not only the UK, but all European countries.



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Aug 27, 12:01pm - #39909 
Over here in the uk , the gt has a 6 speed box as standard from the factory though its only good for about 125 mph thumbsup


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Aug 27, 12:56pm - #39910 
Originally Posted by Spread Eagle
Originally Posted by Kenred
Well hell, If thats the case then we might as well go to the UK and buy our GT's from over there, cause they have just a wee bit more horsepower than the US Celica's


Not only the UK, but all European countries.


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Aug 27, 1:34pm - #39911 
Don't even bother trying to do this...

6spd tranny SUCKS...it breaks A LOT.

Keep your GT 5spd and be happy.


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Aug 27, 3:48pm - #39912 
aye

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Aug 27, 4:43pm - #39913 
Wasn't there a guy on this board with a GT that had LIFT? Since he claimed he bought it from another owner who blew the GTS' engine and replaced it with a GT engine that still retained its LIFT ability? I think he said it was a 5spd tho.

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Aug 27, 5:32pm - #39914 
Originally Posted by Kenred
Well hell, If thats the case then we might as well go to the UK and buy our GT's from over there, cause they have just a wee bit more horsepower than the US Celica's


Im almost completely sure that the european countries dont have more hp, I think its just the way it is measured. This was explained in a different post but I forget.


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Aug 27, 5:35pm - #39915 
the euro celi gt's have disc breaks all around too.


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Aug 27, 7:01pm - #39916 
Originally Posted by Kenred
Well hell, If thats the case then we might as well go to the UK and buy our GT's from over there, cause they have just a wee bit more horsepower than the US Celica's


If a couple extra Hp is worth having your drivers seat on the right side and having all your gauges in metrics go ahead. J/k tongue

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Aug 28, 2:09pm - #39917 
Originally Posted by LiGhTniNgGTS

Wasn't there a guy on this board with a GT that had LIFT? Since he claimed he bought it from another owner who blew the GTS' engine and replaced it with a GT engine that still retained its LIFT ability? I think he said it was a 5spd tho.

Impossible, the GT engine does not have the capability for lift, hence Variable Valve Timing with Intelligence versus Variable Valve Timing with Lift and Intelligence.

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Aug 28, 7:31pm - #39918 
wrong, wrong, wrong...

The GT's 1ZZ has the potential for lift, it's basically the same block as the GTS.

If the guy swapped a GT motor into his GTS, he probably kept his GTS head and ECU, and put it on the GT block/tranny combo.

The GT block would have a lower compression ratio, as well as a longer stroke. My guess would be that it was rather torquey w/a few less ponies than the GTS (probably about 165 HP or so) Lift would engage, but wouldn't produce as much HP as it would with the 11.5-1 compression.

However, with those dished pistions & lower compression, it's the perfect combo to be used with Forced Induction or lots of nitrous.

1ZZ pistons will work in the 2ZZ, but will lower the compression substantialy.

Building a 1ZZ hybrid would be rather easy, compared to a honda VTEC hybrid.



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