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Feb 7, 5:00pm - #394031 
camber question

hotchkis springs made my rear wheels camber too much for my liking. How much will this affect handling and tire wear. What would i use to fix it. I know there are 250 dollar kits, but ive heard of cheaper ones that look just like bolts. What are these? Do they work? Should i not even worry about it?


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Feb 7, 6:16pm - #394032 
get the links...There are bolts that you can buy i think they are close to 100 dollars including tax and shipping made by obx or something like that...but i wouldnt go with that brand too generic...go with the hotchkis camber links...

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Feb 8, 1:22am - #394033 
Get an alignment.

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Feb 8, 2:09am - #394034 
I'm assuming your talking negatige camber. Negative camber will excessively wear the inside of your tires. As far as handling, it'll work pretty good for handling but excessive negative camber decreases straight line stability. Like stated above, get an alignment.


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Feb 8, 12:21pm - #394035 
you should just go to an alignment shop, they can pretty much correct it. I've noticed that even with a TRD drop the camber is excessive. try to get a -1 camber and that should fix you right up. I used to have a really bad negative amber and thast what kept causing understeer at the limit.


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Feb 8, 3:17pm - #394036 
with the hotchkis drop it'll be hard to fix the camber without getting the camber links


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Feb 8, 6:32pm - #394037 
Originally Posted by My Sixth Gear
with the hotchkis drop it'll be hard to fix the camber without getting the camber links


I have no tire gap (a lot lower than the Hotchkis drop) and my camber is within spec with the stock alignment hardware.

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Feb 8, 6:37pm - #394038 
what was the drop in the rear.. when i had hotchkis springs i was NOT able to get my rear camber back in spec without the links


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Feb 9, 8:43am - #394039 
I have progress springs in my car 1.8" drop and the only way to fix my camber problem was with the hotchkis links. The hotchkis links are a lot of money but well worth it.

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Feb 9, 6:40pm - #394040 
Originally Posted by My Sixth Gear
what was the drop in the rear.. when i had hotchkis springs i was NOT able to get my rear camber back in spec without the links


More than 2 inches. The back tires (195/60-15) were sitting the fender wells when I first put them om.

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Feb 11, 9:14pm - #394041 
What springs did you use silver? Wuts the gap in the front?

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Feb 11, 10:05pm - #394042 
They are settling and its getting bad, i feel like a 900 dollar integra driving around. I dont have the cash for the links. i think im screwed. how quick will my tires disolve?


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Feb 11, 10:22pm - #394043 
do you still need camber kit with TRD coilovers? and is it only the rear that there are problems adjusting it stock? I know hotchkis also makes a strut tower bar with added adjustment but it's 450 or so. so to get camber kits on front and rear it'd be 800 + 700 for the coilovers and camber adjustment, then you'd need sway bars for another couple hundred lots of money for a good suspension. seems real expencive though when your just getting springs for 200 and the alignment costs more than the springs.

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Feb 11, 10:47pm - #394044 
Originally Posted by silverOOgts
They are settling and its getting bad, i feel like a 900 dollar integra driving around. I dont have the cash for the links. i think im screwed. how quick will my tires disolve?

You have other things to worry about than your tires dissolving. I don't think it's the spring that's settling. Springs these days don't settle or much at all.
Tein has a warranty against it. 1 mm sag in a year or so I believe. That's nothing in your case. Hotchkis springs are high quality and won't sag either or give the effect of a $900 Integra either.
Those springs are rather stiff and I have heard of complaints becuse of it.
Forget the links and get your suspension checked out from a real good shop before.
Spring sag is a bit of misunderstanding these days.
Too much - camber in the back will wear out your tires quicker (I went threw it), but won't give you better handling (the fronts need more - ) or won't screw up things that much if you don't race or drive like an ass other than your tires.

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Feb 12, 11:31am - #394045 
you can adjust it with stock camber plates, or you can buy the eibach alignment kit, for like 40 bucks front and rear.

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