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Rick Feb 7, 12:20am - #393132 

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Auto GTS Supercharger

Well after many thoughts I have come to a conclusion. First of all, my car is slow. Its a 2002 Auto GTS laughsilly. I know that TRD does not make a supercharger for the auto gts. However, I plan on getting an engine management system along with the supercharger. I will most likely need a new Hood as well.
The question is...should I save about 3,000 for a TRD supercharger on an Auto GTS?
I do race frequently and am tired of slow times and losing to Nissan Titans. I want my car to be fast without trading my car in. I definitly love my celica . It also has under 30,000 miles soo.
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GT2111 Feb 7, 12:27am - #393133 
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Originally Posted by Rick
I know that TRD does not make a supercharger for the auto gts...

I will most likely need a new Hood as well...

The question is...should I save about 3,000 for a TRD supercharger on an Auto GTS?


I don't mean to be mean but look at what you said.

First of all there is no GTS TRD S/C other than the one from Europe and im not even sure if the USA can get that. Another thing. You won't need a new Hood with a S/C the only way you will need the new Hood is if you are a GT model plannning on S/C with the TRD S/C. You can get it for looks but its pretty spendy. $850 shipped.

Maybe your thinkin of Blitz S/C which would make more sence. I don't know much about the Blitz but from what i've heard it is a good chioce. but also costs a lot of money.

Also I don't know where your really getting $3,000.00 for the TRD S/C?? Maybe the Europe one?
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Rick Feb 7, 12:32am - #393134 

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^^ I dont know much about any forced induction system. I still have a lot of looking up to do. If I dont need a new Hood, I dont want a new Hood. I heard someone on this website bought their TRD supercharger and had it installed for under 2 grand. The price of course will either be lower or higher then what I mentioned, that was just what I was assuming the total cost will be.
The reason I picked TRD is because I still have 35,000 miles left under warranty for my car. And if I get blitz, there will be no warranty covered. Any suggestions are appreciated.. rice
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vcel523 Feb 7, 12:54am - #393135 

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I'm in your shoes bro, have a 03 GT Auto. Slow. But I love it and don't want to trade it in. basically, your options are limited and expensive. I don't think the times will be as impressive as you might hope with an auto
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Rick Feb 7, 1:01am - #393136 

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yea...but Im pretty sure I will have my celica for a long time. At least 4 or more years. I have 35,000 miles until my warranty ends. So even if I do have to go with a blitz supercharger it will be ok. I would prefer a TRD though. Since I have 35,000 miles left under warranty I still have time to save for what I will need. And your right, Its gonna be expensive rolleyes But Im sure it will be worth it.
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blitzceli Feb 7, 1:22am - #393137 

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if you want a fast celica trade your auto in and get a stick (then supercharge), other wise your still gona loose to a lot of cars becasue the tranny cannot handle the power

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GjGts Feb 7, 1:50am - #393138 

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guys hes a GTS, he will need an aftermarket Hood unless something crazy comes out of nowhere thats custom an stuff
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ct Feb 7, 2:16am - #393139 

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ok rick here are your options:

for get about the supercharger. the only TRD 1.8l s/c available are for the 1zz engine. you have the 2zz. scratch that off your list.

if you want something relatively cheap get nitrous. i think you've seen the auto gts dynos of 50-75 shot? it's not bad

my suggestion (if you want to stick with your gts) is to get C2 gas' turbo kit. boost it at low psi (5-6) and you'll be fine probably running around 185-190whp..maybe 200.

of course the most reasonable solution is to wait till your payments are up and buy a new car 9something that was meant to go fast to begin with).

those are your choices...

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SLVCELI Feb 7, 3:45am - #393140 
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^Listen to CT. TRD tried using the TRD supercharger on the GTS and it kept breaking down. They even tried taking out lift and beefing up the car and it still broke down. You will NOT want to even think about using the TRD on the GTS. The auto GTS can handle the power of a supercharger but you will lose about 7 percent more due to drivetrain loss. Also the TRD supercharger is not warrantied since it is not specifically for the celica. TRD shows on their warranty page that they will not warranty anything that is not for that specific application. You could get lucky with the warranty but I doubt it. A member on here who has a gt just bought cams so wait for a dyno from that and if it is decent, you could look to get the cams that tpr is coming out with for the GTS. Nitrous would also be a good possibility like CT said. The blitz supercharger is bad ass but it is gonna cost around 6-7000 since it is so expensive to begin with plus you gotta somehow get around using the powerfc since it doesnt work with autos. Also you would have to make sure it works with the left hand drive celicas here in America. I know there are at least a couple turbo'ed auto owners but there posts are hard to find in the celica forums. I am not sure how happy you would be with the turbo. I would try and talk to the auto owners who are turbo'ed and get there feelings about the turbo. Just make sure you research into the turbo because people like to look at the huge horsepower number which is freaking bad ass, but you also gotta look at the maintenance. Good luck. thumbsup

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GT2111 Feb 7, 3:49am - #393141 
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Originally Posted by Rick
^^ I dont know much about any forced induction system. I still have a lot of looking up to do. If I dont need a new Hood, I dont want a new Hood. I heard someone on this website bought their TRD supercharger and had it installed for under 2 grand. The price of course will either be lower or higher then what I mentioned, that was just what I was assuming the total cost will be.
The reason I picked TRD is because I still have 35,000 miles left under warranty for my car. And if I get blitz, there will be no warranty covered. Any suggestions are appreciated.. rice


Well like CT told you.. you got a couple of options but TRD willn't be one of them. Yes There are two people to my knowlegde that have the TRD Hood and one of them in me. So yeah you don't need a new Hood thumbsup

Also if you not looking to void warrenty... = Your screwed. TRD doesnt make anything for the Celica's. Therefore you have to get non-celica parts that will void warrenty. Yes Warrenty sucks! But you jsut gotta decide. Warrenty is a bitch..

I didn't mean to be mean by the way.
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SLVCELI Feb 7, 3:58am - #393142 
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Originally Posted by GT2111
Originally Posted by Rick
^^ I dont know much about any forced induction system. I still have a lot of looking up to do. If I dont need a new Hood, I dont want a new Hood. I heard someone on this website bought their TRD supercharger and had it installed for under 2 grand. The price of course will either be lower or higher then what I mentioned, that was just what I was assuming the total cost will be.
The reason I picked TRD is because I still have 35,000 miles left under warranty for my car. And if I get blitz, there will be no warranty covered. Any suggestions are appreciated.. rice


but TRD willn't be one of them.

I didn't mean to be mean by the way.


Willn't. grin

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Rick Feb 7, 1:09pm - #393143 

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Alright thanks to everyone. I now know that supercharging my car would just be a waste of money. I would love to go turbo, however the maintanence is something you definitly have to look out for quite frequently. Guess I will just have to wait for another car in years to come to make mine fast rolleyes
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celicadragon Feb 7, 4:37pm - #393144 

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i have a gts and from my research a turbo is gonna be the best bet...

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^ that would be extremely badass, but its too much work. Id rather make my car a show car and just wait till I can get a different car to make that fast, like a z or wrx
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I would say Turbo.
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GT2111 Feb 7, 11:42pm - #393147 
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Originally Posted by SLVCELI
Originally Posted by GT2111

but TRD willn't be one of them.

I didn't mean to be mean by the way.


Willn't. grin


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u think c2gas will only get him to 200 hp on a gts...if so dude it aint worth the money...i cant speek for everybody but most of us bought this car for looks...it looks sweet...is it fast...it can be but enjoy the beauty of it..mod for look! thumbsup
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200whp is pretty damn fast for an automatic 4 cylinder engine so to me its worth it but i am having a hard time beliveg that the auto tranny is gonna make us lose 50-60 from the claimed wheel hp, i know it will be lower than the manuel but that much lower is hard to believe, i guess ill see when i dyno mine

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celimangts17 Feb 9, 1:30am - #393150 

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Originally Posted by celicadragon
200whp is pretty damn fast for an automatic 4 cylinder engine so to me its worth it but i am having a hard time beliveg that the auto tranny is gonna make us lose 50-60 from the claimed wheel hp, i know it will be lower than the manuel but that much lower is hard to believe, i guess ill see when i dyno mine

I Personally have given up on T/C or S/C. i wanted it for my auto too but the costs just dont equal the gains. if i do anything it will be N20. im actually planning on keepin the car for awhile and doin a 6spd swap. that i think is the most cost effective thing to do for my car at least. until then its pretty much all show and just a little go thumbsup

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SLVCELI Feb 12, 12:44am - #393151 
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Originally Posted by celicadragon
200whp is pretty damn fast for an automatic 4 cylinder engine so to me its worth it but i am having a hard time beliveg that the auto tranny is gonna make us lose 50-60 from the claimed wheel hp, i know it will be lower than the manuel but that much lower is hard to believe, i guess ill see when i dyno mine


The auto seems to lose about 8 percent more power than the manual. 200 whp is a significant amount of power depending on where the power is made and how much is made when the auto tranny shifts. I am very curious to see what the quarter mile times for a turbo are. I know there are a few people who have had or have a auto turbos, do you happen to know their quarters?

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Originally Posted by celicadragon
200whp is pretty damn fast for an automatic 4 cylinder engine so to me its worth it but i am having a hard time beliveg that the auto tranny is gonna make us lose 50-60 from the claimed wheel hp, i know it will be lower than the manuel but that much lower is hard to believe, i guess ill see when i dyno mine

I Personally have given up on T/C or S/C. i wanted it for my auto too but the costs just dont equal the gains. if i do anything it will be N20. im actually planning on keepin the car for awhile and doin a 6spd swap. that i think is the most cost effective thing to do for my car at least. until then its pretty much all show and just a little go thumbsup


I disagree. The nitrous would be a whole lot better value if you want that extra boost everyonce and a while, true. But having the power on all the time beats it. Going through the gears letting the auto tranny at 3k rpms feels incredibly fast and is perfect for daily driving.

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^^ ok, so ur sayin that it would be MORE cost effective to get a t/c and run at 6-8 psi, which i have heard puts you at around 200-210 hp, for 3700 bucks and then upgrade the tourque converter for another grand and then pray when you drop the turbo in that it wont kill your tranny? im not raggin on you or anything i just dont see how a 1500 dollar 6spd swap would be less cost effective than that. it at least gives me a better base to start F/I with, than the auto tranny. personally i think its a pain to have an auto tranny and be runnin F/I. you could do it but i dont think that the tranny could handle it or get the power to the ground AS GOOD as a 6spd tranny could. correct me if im wrong but thats just how i understand it.

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SLVCELI Feb 12, 1:15am - #393153 
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Originally Posted by celimangts17
^^ ok, so ur sayin that it would be MORE cost effective to get a t/c and run at 6-8 psi, which i have heard puts you at around 200-210 hp, for 3700 bucks and then upgrade the tourque converter for another grand and then pray when you drop the turbo in that it wont kill your tranny? im not raggin on you or anything i just dont see how a 1500 dollar 6spd swap would be less cost effective than that. it at least gives me a better base to start F/I with, than the auto tranny. personally i think its a pain to have an auto tranny and be runnin F/I. you could do it but i dont think that the tranny could handle it or get the power to the ground AS GOOD as a 6spd tranny could. correct me if im wrong but thats just how i understand it.

just my .02


No your right, the power wont get to the ground as good as with the manual. I have not seen an auto turbo car run so I have no idea about how well it will drive. If you want to go all out then of coarse the 5 or 6 speed will be the better choice. I was mostly speaking of how well the everyday driving is even with the auto. With a 6-speed you still wont have very much torque without upgrading. But yes upgrading to a 5 or 6-speed would be just about as cost effective (if not more in the long run) for the top end power. I was just trying to say that the auto can still be very fun to drive.

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So if i were to do a swap for a 6 speed...it would cost just as much and i still may have problems later due to the swap? I dont know how it all works...swap that is
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So if i were to do a swap for a 6 speed...it would cost just as much and i still may have problems later due to the swap? I dont know how it all works...swap that is


No not at all. I am sure celiman can help you out but compared to the blitz sc, the 6-speed swap is chump change. If you have a very trustworthy place install it that knows what they are doing you shouldnt have any problems.

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I wish the dealership could do it...but it probably would be over 5 grand
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as said nitrous will be your best bet

btw for those saying turbo are you guys taking it into consideration that there is big time turbo lag on automatics???
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Originally Posted by Rick
So if i were to do a swap for a 6 speed...it would cost just as much and i still may have problems later due to the swap? I dont know how it all works...swap that is


well there is a long list of things that you have to get. of course a 6spd tranny, flywheel, clutch, theres also a bunch of little things that you need too. you are gonna need a 6spd ecu, and then the install, which i would make sure that you are confident in the person that installs it, otherwise it could seriously damage ur motor if it is not installed correctly. Toyota prob will not do a 6spd swap, unless you got connections. i would do a lot of reasearch before you just blow all ur money on this. i have done a lot and i still have placed this further down the road, like to the point when i have another car, and this is my project car. because you will definately be out of a car for a month or even more. its pretty much like anyone says about any kind of forced induction, do a lot of reasearch before you do it, its not as easy as it sounds and can get expensive, same advice applies to this. hope this helps thumbsup

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