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went from injen shortram to race division CAI
results: can definately feel more kick to it, especially at 4k and above
i can hear the intake now, could not before
and best of all, lift is seriously 10x louder, i thought my car was exploding.
i love it smile
btw - i used my shortram's red hoses since injen doesn't package red anymore with their intakes, they come black and i didn't want that.
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Looks good...I've always like the Injen SRI...makes the engine bay look nice.


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yea, i kinda got tired of the shortram, one of the hoses was near getting a hole in it and it was so beat frown
i actually like the way this looks better than the shortram


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you chose injen for your GTS...why? confused

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looks good!! thumbsup

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what else would i get? confused
i don't want to wait for TPR and i like injen smile


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lol thats too bad wait is really almost over.

but hope your injen does well :thumbup:


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Originally Posted by VSGTS14
i can hear the intake now, could not before
thought SR was louder then CA wtf

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Originally Posted by Parabol
Originally Posted by VSGTS14
i can hear the intake now, could not before
thought SR was louder then CA wtf

it is. I have a Injen SR and i heard cai on another celica before. it wasnt louder than the SR


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Originally Posted by VSGTS14
what else would i get? confused
i don't want to wait for TPR and i like injen smile

on a gts the injen CAI has been known to bog down low and and actually lose horse power from stock below 4K...at least an aem makes a bit more down low...if you go on injen's site even their dyno shows loss of power in low and mid range...import tuner's dyno shows the same loss as well...

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looks great billy thumbsup

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Originally Posted by ct
Originally Posted by VSGTS14
what else would i get? confused
i don't want to wait for TPR and i like injen smile

on a gts the injen CAI has been known to bog down low and and actually lose horse power from stock below 4K...at least an aem makes a bit more down low...if you go on injen's site even their dyno shows loss of power in low and mid range...import tuner's dyno shows the same loss as well...

umm no I have to disagree with you on that CT. I have the Injen RD CAI and I witness no bogging. As far as losing HP?!?! naw, after putting on my CAI I instantly felt the difference. Either way CT, AEM and Injen are qaulity products and cannot go wrong. BTW nice setup on your CAI man, looks sweet! thumbsup

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Originally Posted by gtscelica05
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Originally Posted by VSGTS14
i can hear the intake now, could not before
thought SR was louder then CA wtf

it is. I have a Injen SR and i heard cai on another celica before. it wasnt louder than the SR

idk, i couldn't hear my shortram idunno


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thumbsup thumbsup thinking of upgrading my injen sri now lol

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Originally Posted by RookieGTS
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Originally Posted by VSGTS14
what else would i get? confused
i don't want to wait for TPR and i like injen smile

on a gts the injen CAI has been known to bog down low and and actually lose horse power from stock below 4K...at least an aem makes a bit more down low...if you go on injen's site even their dyno shows loss of power in low and mid range...import tuner's dyno shows the same loss as well...

umm no I have to disagree with you on that CT. I have the Injen RD CAI and I witness no bogging. As far as losing HP?!?! naw, after putting on my CAI I instantly felt the difference. Either way CT, AEM and Injen are qaulity products and cannot go wrong. BTW nice setup on your CAI man, looks sweet! thumbsup

ummm no...please don't make me pull out the dynos...unless you dyno'd yourself there have been tons of accounts of people with the injen who have lost power from low to mid-range. this is already fact...

you mean to tell me you haven't seen TPR's dyno, celica memeber's dyno, import tuner's dyno, AND INJEN'S OFFICAL DYNO????...they all show LOSS OF POWER down low...research please. you're a vet in the celica sites now...you know butt-dynos mean horse poo.. rofl

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Nope honestly I have never seen TPR's dyno to a CAI because I havent seen no one post it?? confused Yeah but isnt the point if having the INJEN CAI for getting more top end power?? Thats what LIFT is for? Why not get more power out of it when lift hits?

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CT ^^^ you think im vet?? huh?? Im still learning about my car and about the motor and how it works and all that. Thats what Im here for angry

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Where the injen loses low end power it makes up for it in top end power. Assuming you have a stick, the injen would be better for racing and the aem better for daily driving. Its really just preference.


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Originally Posted by RookieGTS
Nope honestly I have never seen TPR's dyno to a CAI because I havent seen no one post it?? confused Yeah but isnt the point if having the INJEN CAI for getting more top end power?? Thats what LIFT is for? Why not get more power out of it when lift hits?

it's on newcelicaDOTorg, the dynos
the dynos show that TPR has better gain across all RPM than injen and AEM


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Originally Posted by RookieGTS
CT ^^^ you think im vet??

sorry...won't make that mistake again.. rofl

here are some injen dynos:

injen/trd exhaust vs stock
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injen vs aem
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injen/w exhuast vs stock from import tuner:

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from injen's official site
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as far as TPR...i think easyC can take it from here.

but as far as injen making more up top. it makes 1-2whp more up top over a range of 500 rpm..lame.. thumbsdown

and will everyone be driving around at lift all the time?..no...so the daily driving excuse is moot.

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Originally Posted by ct
as far as TPR...i think easyC can take it from here.

but as far as injen making more up top. it makes 1-2whp more up top over a range of 500 rpm compared to aem or tpr..lame.. thumbsdown

and will everyone be driving around at lift all the time?..no...so the daily driving excuse is moot.

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lol why did you quote yourself??
anyway, i told ya i felt it at 4k rofl
look at the first dyno where it switches over...4k smile
i rule rofl
i still like it nonetheless.


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Originally Posted by VSGTS14
anyway, i told ya i felt it at 4k rofl

i don't dispute that...my point is what you loose before that... rofl

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yea, i can feel that too woot


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I like the red hoses and the way you pay attention to detail. thumbsup When could we expect to see the Trial kit???


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nice i like it
its his car let him do what he wants with it grin

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Originally Posted by SLVCELI
Where the injen loses low end power it makes up for it in top end power. Assuming you have a stick, the injen would be better for racing and the aem better for daily driving. Its really just preference.

right on there man! thumbsup

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again i will ask. why settle for high or low end power???? why not have both?


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Originally Posted by VSGTS14
lol why did you quote yourself??
anyway, i told ya i felt it at 4k rofl
look at the first dyno where it switches over...4k smile
i rule rofl
i still like it nonetheless.

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Originally Posted by Stun
I like the red hoses and the way you pay attention to detail. thumbsup When could we expect to see the Trial kit???

it's going to ship end of february by air
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Originally Posted by Easy_C
again i will ask. why settle for high or low end power???? why not have both?
idunno

I can only supply teh dynos...lol rofl

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Originally Posted by Easy_C
again i will ask. why settle for high or low end power???? why not have both?

People demand your product and you dont supply it quick enough so people dont wanna wait months for you to supply it... idunno

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The dyno on n e w c e l i c a . o r g comparing injen/aem/tpr shows injen beating aem but quite a bit in the top end and ct's didnt. Dynos suck hit


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it flash floods like crazy here (new orleans is below sea level)...it's against my better judgement to put a cold-air on my car. i just got my injen shortram in yesterday though...not as much power as a cold-air but it's the safer alternative for dealing with where i live

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Originally Posted by VSGTS14
it's going to ship end of february by air
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i got dibs on your VS kit if at all you are getting rid of it

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Originally Posted by SLVCELI
The dyno on n e w c e l i c a . o r g comparing injen/aem/tpr shows injen beating aem but quite a bit in the top end and ct's didnt. Dynos suck hit

agree, on every car it's different.


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Originally Posted by SLVCELI
The dyno on n e w c e l i c a . o r g comparing injen/aem/tpr shows injen beating aem but quite a bit in the top end and ct's didnt. Dynos suck hit

1. in a perfect world, you shouldn't even compare dynos done at differnt times MUCH LESS done by different cars under different conditions--even when using the same engine type.

even when using a stock car with no aftermarket parts, dynos will vary because there are so many variables..weather, temperature, wind, much less talking about how 'healthy' the engine itself is (whose to say my 2zz runs the same as your 2zz??).

also take into account different dynonameters measure whp differently. there are 3 major dynonameters that tuners use (dynojet is the most popular for imports..but mustang dyno--not related to fords rolleyes -- is probably the most realistic.

so you can imagine the different results done by cars with different aftermarket parts on different dynonameters will show.

in a perfect world, all engines would be made the same, maintaned the same, tested the same and under the same conditions--then you would have a true look into what really does what.

2. it's obviously not a perfect world. so you obviously shouldn't compare different dyno graphs. you're best bet is to compare the DIFFERENCES in ONE particular dyno. look at what the gain (or loss) is between a performance part and its corresponding stock part.

3. don't ever use a manufacturer's dyno...use a trusted independent dyno.

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Originally Posted by SLVCELI
The dyno on n e w c e l i c a . o r g comparing injen/aem/tpr shows injen beating aem but quite a bit in the top end and ct's didnt. Dynos suck hit

dynos differ...the CONSISTENCY i wanted to show was that every dyno (even INJEN's official dyno) showed a loss of power down low...

dynos done properly don't suck and are far better measures than "oooh this FEELS faster"...or "Hey! i got the newest G-tech!"... rofl

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Originally Posted by RookieGTS
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again i will ask. why settle for high or low end power???? why not have both?

People demand your product and you dont supply it quick enough so people dont wanna wait months for you to supply it... idunno

Had the shop i was using actually been a shop and did what they were supposed to I wouldnt have that problem. But your post just adds evidence to my case. Im also claiming loss of business from them. thanks thumbsup


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Originally Posted by RookieGTS
G-tech?? lol

g-tech meter. it's a plug-n-play device that you type in a few variables (such as your cars weight, with you in it) and then take it out for a test run. it then spits out dynos, track times, etc.

supposedly it's accurate...but it depends on how accurate your input is as well.

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