Previous Thread
Next Thread
New Reply
Print Thread
Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 51
MNP
Member
MNP Jan 26, 5:12pm - #383977 

Member
2000 Toyota Celica

Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 51
North Carolina U.S.
2ZZGE HEAD and 5SFE BLOCK.

I HAVE A QUESTION FOR GUYS.. ONE OF MY FRIENDS WENT TO CALI. COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO.. HE TOLD ME THAT HE SAW THIS SEAK 01 CELICA GTS .. THAT HAD A 2ZZGE HEAD AND AN MR-2 5SFE BOTTOM END, TURBOCHARGED.. IS THAT ACTUALLY POSSIBLE? OR ANYONE EVER HEARD ABOUT SOMETHING LIKE THAT? IF YES.. CAN YOU TELL ME A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT IT? I AM REALLY INTERESTED IN THIS IDEA. THANK YOU.
Joined: Jun 2004
Posts: 1,337
celicadragon
Specialist
celicadragon Jan 26, 5:16pm - #383978 

Specialist
2002 Toyota Celica

Joined: Jun 2004
Posts: 1,337
Pittsburgh, PA
chill with the capitals man, lol

respect the gt-s
Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 51
MNP
Member
MNP Jan 26, 5:19pm - #383979 

Member
2000 Toyota Celica

Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 51
North Carolina U.S.
apologize about that.
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 453
Jtultra
Senior Member
Jtultra Jan 26, 7:21pm - #383980 

Senior Member
2000 Toyota Celica

Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 453
Marietta, GA
hmmm interesting...

The 2ZZ god
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 2,242
Lucky_317
Specialist
Lucky_317 Jan 26, 7:45pm - #383981 

Specialist
2000 Toyota Celica

Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 2,242
Fontana, CA
I'm not suer thats even posible lol I've never come across anything like that at the tracks I go to.

doesnt sound real to me.

Best 60' 1.959 best 1/4 - 13.7 @ 101mph
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 85
OneShotUno
Member
OneShotUno Jan 26, 9:48pm - #383982 

Member
2000 Toyota Celica GT

Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 85
NE Pennsylvania USA
I highly doubt it. Every now and then there are people that want to put a 2zz head on a 1zz, and although they are both 1.8 liter with idential bore pitchs , they are completely different engines otherwise. The 2zz (and 1zz) both have a bore pitch of 87.5mm. With a bore of 87 mm on the 5S-FE, and some metal between the cylinder walls, we could postulate the a bore pitch around 97mm. Essentially, the 2zz head is too small for its valves to sit over the pistons, let alone all the channels and head bolts. And there is no way to make it fit.
Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 51
MNP
Member
MNP Jan 26, 9:56pm - #383983 

Member
2000 Toyota Celica

Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 51
North Carolina U.S.
So i guess the guy was bullshiting everyone there angry.. hhhmmmm... anyways it would it be nice to have a Toyota Frankenstein engine.. grin
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 242
hybridcelica
Member
hybridcelica Jan 28, 5:43pm - #383984 
2000 silver/blue Toyota Celica
Member
2000 Toyota Celica

Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 242
virgin islands
Originally Posted by OneShotUno
I highly doubt it. Every now and then there are people that want to put a 2zz head on a 1zz, and although they are both 1.8 liter with idential bore pitchs , they are completely different engines otherwise. The 2zz (and 1zz) both have a bore pitch of 87.5mm. With a bore of 87 mm on the 5S-FE, and some metal between the cylinder walls, we could postulate the a bore pitch around 97mm. Essentially, the 2zz head is too small for its valves to sit over the pistons, let alone all the channels and head bolts. And there is no way to make it fit.



very well said! he can probably get it to bolt up somewhat,but it just wouldnt work!

HYBRID:resulting from the combination of two or more mechanically dissimilar origins!
"...... code":every man is a shadow,let him be treated as such,until proven otherwise by a show of character or code!
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 522
Rave669
Senior Member
Rave669 Jan 28, 7:10pm - #383985 

Senior Member
2002 Toyota Celica

Joined: May 2003
Posts: 522
Lisle, IL
I don't think it's "impossible" per-se to build a Hybrid engine from a 2ZZ head/1ZZ block, but it wouldn't just bolt right together like the Honda guys can do, you would need some serious fabrication and custom adaptors to get a 2ZZ head to mate to a 1ZZ block, or any other block for that matter. you have to worry about clearances, oil passages lining up properly, etc. If it was sucessfuly done, I would've heard about it in the forums by now. And even if you could do it, you would have to change things so much that it would pretty much be pointless by the time you're done.

You can take a 1ZZ crank, and use it in the 2ZZ block to stroke the motor, that's sort of a hybrid setup, but you just can't piece together toyota engines like you can with other engine makes.

[Linked Image]
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 2,373
AZZKIKR
SHO - NUFF
AZZKIKR Jan 28, 7:15pm - #383986 

SHO - NUFF
2003 Toyota Celica GT

Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 2,373
ATL GA
^^^ All very well put
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 86
slick00gts
Member
slick00gts Apr 4, 3:28am - #383987 
2000 Black Toyota Celica GTS
Member
2000 Toyota Celica GTS

Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 86
Virginia
after seeing the alltrac with a v8 twin turbo i think just about anything is possiable.
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 3,982
Zero
Furi Kuri
Zero Apr 4, 3:50am - #383988 

Furi Kuri
2002 Toyota Celica GT

Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 3,982
San Diego, CA
frankenstein motor? for toyota? if you wanna copy honda's frankenstein motor of the type s/r head and b20 base wouldnt using the Rav4 base with GTS head be more effective?

LOL, i dont know what im talking about. spineyes

I've mastered the art of the After Image Technique.
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 230
Creep1234
Member
Creep1234 Apr 4, 4:51am - #383989 

Member
2004 Toyota Celica GT

Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 230
Laguna Niguel,CA
back from the dead!

The dream of someday racing in the JGTC...
drive sideways.
-'nough said.
Joined: Nov 2002
Posts: 396
Illusive
Member
Illusive Apr 4, 4:26pm - #383990 
Member

Joined: Nov 2002
Posts: 396
Southern California
hes lying.

plain and simple.

theres no way currently to matt a 2zz head to a 1zz block.

the best solution is to use the izz crank remove the oil squirters and make it a stroker, with the 1zz bottom end. but no way is there (and you'd have to ask why the hell you'd want to put a 2zz head on a 1zz or even a 5fe)

Controlled Inertia
President
8.831 @ 79.8 mph (best 1/8 new motor 12/02/04)
2.007 (best 60')
All motor
Join the conversation - Register now or Sign in to add your comment


Moderated by  isaac 

Customize Your Toyota CelicaPrivacy Policy · About · Contact
CelicaHobby.com is an independent Toyota Celica enthusiast website. CelicaHobby.com is not sponsored by or affiliated with Toyota Motor Sales, USA, Inc. in any way. The Toyota and Celica names and logos are trademarks owned by Toyota Motor Sales, USA, Inc.
© CelicaHobby.com, 2001-2016