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CelicaGTizzle Jan 23, 3:26pm - #381419 

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Is it worth it? EasyC and Lucky please help!

Ok well since I got my GT, I have wanted to turbo it... After seeing that nearly every GT that is in magizines is turbo'd and everyone wants to turbo their GT, I decided I wanted to be different and try to go NA. What do you think is possible with a NA GT and can some either EasyC or Lucky or someone with lots of knowledge on NA (AZZKIR you can help to) make a quck list of things to do first or stages to take?

I don't want to be super fast, but I would like some speed...

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My Sixth Gear Jan 23, 3:34pm - #381420 
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hey kyle why not try a 2zz swap wink

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CelicaGTizzle Jan 23, 3:41pm - #381421 

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^That would be too easy... I want to make it a challenge, which is why I don't want to slap on a turbo...

I also want reliablility since it's my daily driver and I have heard bad stories about aftermarket turbo kits...

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combatc87 Jan 23, 4:46pm - #381422 

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What happened to your 21+psi engine blowing track shredding turbo plan? I think N/A would be very different. It may require some creativity (read: money) but it'll get you props on something different. Oh, and does this mean I get to be the evil twin now?

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CelicaGTizzle Jan 23, 4:49pm - #381423 

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Originally Posted by combatc87
What happened to your 21+psi engine blowing track shredding turbo plan? I think N/A would be very different. It may require some creativity (read: money) but it'll get you props on something different. Oh, and does this mean I get to be the evil twin now?


I'd love to run 21 psi, but I saw horrible stories on aftermarket turbo kits and putting them on cars that came NA and that got me thinking. I want reliable power so I decided to stay away from turbo and because everyone is turboing and I want to be different, I thought I'd try NA... And yes you can be the evil twin but my plans have changed a bit...

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Johnsgt Jan 23, 4:56pm - #381424 
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Right now theres just not that many parts out for N/A power, especially for a GT. However you are in luck because crower just came out with cams. Heres a list of some parts you should get. Keep in mind when all is said and done this will cost a lot.

Intake
Exhaust
P&P your exhaust manifold or wait for a good race header to come out
P&P your head
Valves
Springs
Cams
Rods
Higher compression Pistons
Bore out to 2.0 liters
Get the PFC(Get it fine tuned and raise your rev limit)

As far as the gains, who knows because theres not many people that have done all that, in fact theres nobody that has done all that.
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CelicaGTizzle Jan 23, 4:57pm - #381425 

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Originally Posted by Johnsgt
Right now theres just not that many parts out for N/A power, especially for a GT. However you are in luck because crower just came out with cams. Heres a list of some parts you should get. Keep in mind when all is said and done this will cost a lot.

Intake
Exhaust
P&P your exhaust manifold or wait for a good race header to come out
P&P your head
Valves
Springs
Cams
Rods
Higher compression Pistons
Bore out to 2.0 liters
Get the PFC(Get it fine tuned and raise your rev limit)

As far as the gains, who knows because theres not many people that have done all that, in fact theres nobody that has done all that.


Then, I guess I'll be the guinea pig for it... I like being different!

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sickcelica696 Jan 23, 5:06pm - #381426 
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that list properly tuned should get you into the 200 club n/a. maybe other stuff like fuel pumps, ignition, injectors and stuff could squeeze a couple more hp.
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Rick Jan 23, 5:09pm - #381427 

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you dont wanna get the TRD supercharger? That alone will give you more torqe and horsepower then any of those mods. In magazines, ive never heard of a celica having one, so if you planning on being in one then guess what? Yea youll be different thumbsup tongue
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Easy_C Jan 23, 5:53pm - #381428 
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honestly, if you're looking for big n/a power. you are seriously better off with a 2zz starting platform. The 1zz will never have the same n/a potential as the 2zz. That's the way they are made. you may very well get mid to high 100's for power with a fully built 1zz n/a, but then again, you START with that with the 2zz. Either way it won't be "easy" per se.

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Johnsgt Jan 23, 6:37pm - #381429 
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Originally Posted by Easy_C
honestly, if you're looking for big n/a power. you are seriously better off with a 2zz starting platform. The 1zz will never have the same n/a potential as the 2zz. That's the way they are made. you may very well get mid to high 100's for power with a fully built 1zz n/a, but then again, you START with that with the 2zz. Either way it won't be "easy" per se.


That's exactly what i was going to add. I was gonna say if i had to guess about power id say you would be around a stock gts, maybe slightly more. Would be much cheaper and easier to just swap a 2zz in. I dunno why you would want to go through all that work and money just to be the same speed as a stock gts.
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i already through that idea in

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with the GT motor, it's pointless unless you wanna supercharge it with TRD and get the TRD style Hood for a little bit of power
just turbo it if you want mucho power

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Speed4TheNeed Jan 23, 7:13pm - #381432 

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just turbo it..my $0.02. if you're willing to spend that much cash on rebuilding or what not..just reinforce your engine so you can run a higher psi than all the 'other' turbo gt's
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sickcelica696 Jan 23, 7:25pm - #381433 
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isnt the whole point of this thread not to turbo or super, and yet all your comments are saying that when he said he doesnt want to
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yea some people like to read

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CelicaGTizzle Jan 23, 7:45pm - #381435 

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Originally Posted by sickcelica696
isnt the whole point of this thread not to turbo or super, and yet all your comments are saying that when he said he doesnt want to


Thank you! I know that if I want mucho power I should turbo... I know I would need to re-enfore my engine to run the turbo, but even if I run it at a higher psi than all the other turbo GT's that won't matter, because in the end it is still a turbo GT isn't it...

I would like to stay away from turbo the more I think about it... I also would like to stay away from a 2ZZ, I know that it has more NA potential, but I want to do something different.

I was considering a 3ZZ, but I think that is way too much for what you are getting, but it is still a possibility...

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VSGTS14 Jan 23, 8:09pm - #381436 

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even though he said he doesn't want to do those two
we are trying to say that the motor NA is not worth it and that a supercharger or turbo is what he would want if he wants power
like they said, an NA 1zz would only get you to the power of the 2zz.

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CelicaGTizzle Jan 23, 8:16pm - #381437 

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Originally Posted by VSGTS14
even though he said he doesn't want to do those two
we are trying to say that the motor NA is not worth it and that a supercharger or turbo is what he would want if he wants power
like they said, an NA 1zz would only get you to the power of the 2zz.


I really don't car how much power I will end up having. I just want some more than I have now...

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VSGTS14 Jan 23, 8:42pm - #381438 

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than i suggest getting the supercharger and anything else you can.

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CelicaGTizzle Jan 23, 8:44pm - #381439 

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Originally Posted by VSGTS14
than i suggest getting the supercharger and anything else you can.


I'd get the supercharger if I didn't have to get that Hood... I hate that Hood...

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there's not much else you can do, just do whatever they make for it like those new cams and the works.

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CelicaGTizzle Jan 23, 8:47pm - #381441 

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If there is a way another Hood can be modded to fit without cutting a hole in it then I would do the supercharger... If there isn't then I won't...

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combatc87 Jan 23, 8:53pm - #381442 

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I doubt it. You may want to think about an MWR 1zz race motor. Also once you manage to get the power up to or around that of a stock GTS remember you'll have a huge torque advantage, thus better off the line and better power curve.

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VSGTS14 Jan 23, 9:29pm - #381443 

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fiber images makes the TRD Hood to buy in Carbon Fiber
it's a full replacement

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AznKhaos Jan 23, 9:38pm - #381444 
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i think you should just go w/ the 3zz...or you can try to build one urself($$$$$)..and theres always the blitz supercharger, but iono if it fits on a GT

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blitz SC is for GTS
he would get the TRD for his GT

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CelicaGTizzle Jan 23, 9:49pm - #381446 

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Originally Posted by VSGTS14
blitz SC is for GTS
he would get the TRD for his GT


Blitz can be customized to fit a GT, I think it says that on Trial site and isn't the Trial the same as the Blitz?

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CelicaGTizzle Jan 23, 9:50pm - #381447 

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Originally Posted by combatc87
I doubt it. You may want to think about an MWR 1zz race motor. Also once you manage to get the power up to or around that of a stock GTS remember you'll have a huge torque advantage, thus better off the line and better power curve.


You have a very, very good point...

Despite what everyone says, I'm going NA...

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AznKhaos Jan 23, 9:53pm - #381448 
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when you do go NA and finish tell us ur results..and ill join you w/ my built NA GT thumbsup
oh yea and wat about NOS?

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CelicaGTizzle Jan 23, 11:06pm - #381449 

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Originally Posted by AznKhaos
when you do go NA and finish tell us ur results..and ill join you w/ my built NA GT thumbsup
oh yea and wat about NOS?


I plan on running a 50 shot but I may change my mind and run a 75 shot...

I want to begin building up the engine in spring and throught the summer...

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QTRMLR_1 Jan 23, 11:08pm - #381450 

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Originally Posted by CelicaGTizzle
I was considering a 3ZZ, but I think that is way too much for what you are getting, but it is still a possibility...


I'm sure you realize a 3zz is Trial's name for a stroked 2zz with upgraded internals. It's a 2zz base, and I believe you said you don't want to do a 2zz swap.

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CelicaGTizzle Jan 23, 11:13pm - #381451 

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Originally Posted by QTRMLR_1
Originally Posted by CelicaGTizzle
I was considering a 3ZZ, but I think that is way too much for what you are getting, but it is still a possibility...


I'm sure you realize a 3zz is Trial's name for a stroked 2zz with upgraded internals. It's a 2zz base, and I believe you said you don't want to do a 2zz swap.


I read somewhere about people combining a 1ZZ with a 2ZZ to make a 3ZZ... I saw this on the other site.

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QTRMLR_1 Jan 23, 11:16pm - #381452 

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2zz is the base and by that I mean the block and the head. the crank is from a 1zz. You would be doing a 2zz swap.

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CelicaGTizzle Jan 23, 11:21pm - #381453 

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Originally Posted by QTRMLR_1
2zz is the base and by that I mean the block and the head. the crank is from a 1zz. You would be doing a 2zz swap.


I see... Thanks for clearing that up. I decided to just do NA already, but now I know more about the 3ZZ.

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AznKhaos Jan 24, 12:27am - #381454 
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swap and do a 3zz! thats wat i wanna do..except i dun have a few 10g's to throw around..

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swapping would be too much
despite blitz fitting the GT, it's still more than TRD

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00celica00gt Jan 24, 1:55am - #381456 

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I think this kid is living in a dream land. All those mods + install will cost about 5grand. mabye a little more. I know you want to be different. But be smart with your money. You will not be satisfied with the power you get in the end after spending that much money. Cams alone are about 1k and install for them is about 1k. Thats just 1 mod...2g's. Swapping to a 2zz is being different. Not many people do it, if any. If you do that swap and do those mods you will be very satisfied. and its not easy to just swap an engine.

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CelicaGTizzle Jan 24, 2:31am - #381457 

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Originally Posted by 00celica00gt
I think this kid is living in a dream land. All those mods + install will cost about 5grand. mabye a little more. I know you want to be different. But be smart with your money. You will not be satisfied with the power you get in the end after spending that much money. Cams alone are about 1k and install for them is about 1k. Thats just 1 mod...2g's. Swapping to a 2zz is being different. Not many people do it, if any. If you do that swap and do those mods you will be very satisfied. and its not easy to just swap an engine.


First off, I install all my own mods... I don't let anyone touch my car except for my bodyshop.

2nd you don't even know my, so how can you judge me and say I'm living in a dream land? I have the money to do everything, so money isn't a problem. I don't go to mommy and daddy for all my money either, I work hard and I'm actually working 2 jobs and going to school.

Before you post please know the facts... I stated I don't really car about how much power I end up with since the car is primarily a show car. My theme for the car is "different". I am getting a body kit you rarely see and I am doing a lot of things different from what you see on most Celicas.

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GTSbyTRD Jan 25, 12:32am - #381458 

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Go drive an STI, and then tell me you dont want to do a 2ZZ swap, build your motors, and turbo. 15PSI 300ish WHP.

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Easy_C Jan 25, 12:36am - #381459 
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turbo = too much torque = wheel spin.

Go N/A and build a 10K revving 2zz. If you hit mid 200 whp figures you'll be in the low 13's high 12's with actual usable torque.

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CelicaGTizzle Jan 25, 12:38am - #381460 

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Originally Posted by GTSbyTRD
Go drive an STI, and then tell me you dont want to do a 2ZZ swap, build your motors, and turbo. 15PSI 300ish WHP.

Drool...I can't wait till this spring...working on mine right now. thumbsup


Ok so 2ZZ swap and turbo... That is combining both ideas of what I don't want to do...

I wish people would understand that if I get 180bhp, I could really careless. I'm not trying to get 300whp or even 200whp. I'm just trying to do something that very few have done (I actually haven't heard of or seen a completely NA GT).

I will begin the build up shortly after my bodywork is done... I will post updates along the way as well as dynos.

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CelicaGTizzle Jan 25, 12:39am - #381461 

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Originally Posted by Easy_C
turbo = too much torque = wheel spin.

Go N/A and build a 10K revving 2zz. If you hit mid 200 whp figures you'll be in the low 13's high 12's with actual usable torque.


No matter how much you tell me to do a 2ZZ swap, it won't happen. Sure call me foolish and stupid. Say I'm wasting money. All I can say is I wanna be different and a NA 1ZZ is definently different.

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Genomaxter Jan 25, 2:57am - #381462 
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Originally Posted by CelicaGTizzle
Originally Posted by Easy_C
turbo = too much torque = wheel spin.

Go N/A and build a 10K revving 2zz. If you hit mid 200 whp figures you'll be in the low 13's high 12's with actual usable torque.


No matter how much you tell me to do a 2ZZ swap, it won't happen. Sure call me foolish and stupid. Say I'm wasting money. All I can say is I wanna be different and a NA 1ZZ is definently different.


The person you should be talking to is Matt at MWR. He can hook you up with whatever you want. By the way, I thought nitrous was considered forced induction, hence, you wouldnt be N/A?

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CelicaGTizzle Jan 25, 3:44am - #381464 

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Originally Posted by SLVCELI
Originally Posted by CelicaGTizzle
Originally Posted by Easy_C
turbo = too much torque = wheel spin.

Go N/A and build a 10K revving 2zz. If you hit mid 200 whp figures you'll be in the low 13's high 12's with actual usable torque.


No matter how much you tell me to do a 2ZZ swap, it won't happen. Sure call me foolish and stupid. Say I'm wasting money. All I can say is I wanna be different and a NA 1ZZ is definently different.


The person you should be talking to is Matt at MWR. He can hook you up with whatever you want. By the way, I thought nitrous was considered forced induction, hence, you wouldnt be N/A?


I'm gunna run the car at the track without the n2o and with it... I will have a few pure NA runs (without the n2o) and then I'm gunna use the n2o just to see what I can get...

My car is gunna be 10x faster than yours...haha... I'm gunna buy like 10
of those speedchips! I figure if 1 gets me 20hp then 10 will get me 200hp!
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Lucky_317 Jan 25, 3:58am - #381465 

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nitrous IS considered F/I and would not be N/A.

don't worry most people said the same to me and still do lol I have less hp then any turbo guys yet I put down better track times then most of em wink

nobody has gone full hardcore N/A with a GT so it would be different. Azzkikr is the closest I've seen.

to do it you'll spend a LOT of money, just warning you now. you alo WONT hit 200 whp. maybe 180's all said and done.

here's what I would do if I had a GT and a large budget...

1) power FC
2) Intake (tpr is cheap and has good gains, choice 2 would be AEM)
3) exhaust (tpr or TRD are good choices)
4) raise the compression to 11:1
5) new rods
6) valves
7) valve springs
8) titanium retainers
9) stage 2 crower cams
10) up it to the 2.0L
11) light weight rims
12) drag radials

basically ditto what john said lol

I think this will have you well on the way to having a VERY nice N/A setup for a GT. I run high 13's with only 172 whp. so could you with the right track setup and some good driving. that would shut a lot of people up about you having an N/A GT thumbsup hell even low 14's would be hella respectable.

but you will pay 3x what I paid lol it's all about what makes you happy.

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CelicaGTizzle Jan 25, 4:21am - #381466 

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Originally Posted by Lucky_317

nitrous IS considered F/I and would not be N/A.

don't worry most people said the same to me and still do lol I have less hp then any turbo guys yet I put down better track times then most of em wink

nobody has gone full hardcore N/A with a GT so it would be different. Azzkikr is the closest I've seen.

to do it you'll spend a LOT of money, just warning you now. you alo WONT hit 200 whp. maybe 180's all said and done.

here's what I would do if I had a GT and a large budget...

1) power FC
2) Intake (tpr is cheap and has good gains, choice 2 would be AEM)
3) exhaust (tpr or TRD are good choices)
4) raise the compression to 11:1
5) new rods
6) valves
7) valve springs
8) titanium retainers
9) stage 2 crower cams
10) up it to the 2.0L
11) light weight rims
12) drag radials

basically ditto what john said lol

I think this will have you well on the way to having a VERY nice N/A setup for a GT. I run high 13's with only 172 whp. so could you with the right track setup and some good driving. that would shut a lot of people up about you having an N/A GT thumbsup hell even low 14's would be hella respectable.

but you will pay 3x what I paid lol it's all about what makes you happy.


All of this is still $6000 less then what I would have done if I got a turbo...

I plan on swapping to a GTS tranny, will this help the times at all?

My car is gunna be 10x faster than yours...haha... I'm gunna buy like 10
of those speedchips! I figure if 1 gets me 20hp then 10 will get me 200hp!
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Johnsgt Jan 25, 4:30am - #381467 
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CelicaGTizzle Jan 25, 4:39am - #381468 

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I read somewhere that the GTS tranny is aimed more toward acceleration and not top speed... In the 1/4 mile don't you want acceleration instead of top speed?

My car is gunna be 10x faster than yours...haha... I'm gunna buy like 10
of those speedchips! I figure if 1 gets me 20hp then 10 will get me 200hp!
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