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Kenred
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Kenred Aug 21, 3:58pm - #38013 

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Increasing Horsepower

Um, I just recently got a 2000 Celica GT, and I was wonderin what mods do I need besides Intake and Exhaust to Increase it, I wanna get my Celica to push more horsepower than my GST Eclipse, I have Iceman Intake, upgraded my Turbo to a Garrett Racing Turbo, I have a Apex Exhaust with Silencer, I have a Turbo Clear Tru Time Cam Gear, a TurboXS High Preformance Boost Controller, I have a Preformance Control Modules, and last time I checked it was 490 or maybe 500 hp with some 1G parts, so if theres preformance parts that I can use that would get me that much hp I read about the Turbo kit for the Celica GT and I wanted to know what Psi level I can set it to gain more than 80hp, so could somebody let me know somethin, i'm hardly on the boards, but you can IM me on AOL @ dsgb316
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trog2233 Aug 21, 4:01pm - #38014 

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Dude you have no chance of makin a GT get even close to that...
U could add every mod possible and hit 250 maybe 270 with internals...ur talkin a lot of money though
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IcEd blUe Aug 21, 4:03pm - #38015 

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Originally Posted by trog2233
Dude you have no chance of makin a GT get even close to that...
U could add every mod possible and hit 250 maybe 270 with internals...ur talkin a lot of money though



yea true,but you could do it, its just gonna cost as much as your house probably, laughsilly but yea you can get a custom turbo made for you
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Rice Aug 21, 4:03pm - #38016 

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Originally Posted by trog2233
Dude you have no chance of makin a GT get even close to that...
U could add every mod possible and hit 250 maybe 270 with internals...ur talkin a lot of money though


yep, you'd have to spend tons of money. May as well buy a faster car if that's kinda hp you're looking for.
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sean Aug 21, 4:06pm - #38017 
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you could always use nitrous... get as much hp as you can out of a turbo and i/h/e and internals, then add a shot

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Kenred Aug 21, 4:37pm - #38018 

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I mean I've got the money to do it, I just need to know what all mods out there for the GT to do it with besides the basic, couldnt I change out the Turbo Cartridge and install another one? I would use the NOS system, but I lost a good friend to it and I dont wanna use NOS, I made out a list so far, I dunno how much hp I can get out of all this stuff I have listed, but heres a shot

1. AEM Tru-Power Pulley Kit price : 80.06
2. AEM Cold Air Intake System price: $227.14
3. Celica V-Force Power Control Module - 4cyl - 20mhz RISC microprocessor price $209.47
4. Celica Computer Chip Upgrade Box Program - including Turbo consists of box and paperwork for you to ship your EC to Jet to have chip soldered in - you pay freight to Jet, they ship it back for free price: $366.67
5.Hotshot headers price: $ 355.00
6.Apexi N1 Exhaust 2000+ Toyota Celica GT/GTS price: 449.00
7. A'pexi Super AFC II Computer price $339.65
8. GReddy Profec B - Electronic Boost Controller (Black) price: $396.90
9. Turbo Kit price 3500.00
10. TRD's Quick Shifter Kit price: 129.99
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VSGTS14 Aug 21, 4:45pm - #38019 

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Originally Posted by Kenred
I mean I've got the money to do it, I just need to know what all mods out there for the GT to do it with besides the basic, couldnt I change out the Turbo Cartridge and install another one? I would use the NOS system, but I lost a good friend to it and I dont wanna use NOS, I made out a list so far, I dunno how much hp I can get out of all this stuff I have listed, but heres a shot

1. AEM Tru-Power Pulley Kit price : 80.06
2. AEM Cold Air Intake System price: $227.14
3. Celica V-Force Power Control Module - 4cyl - 20mhz RISC microprocessor price $209.47
4. Celica Computer Chip Upgrade Box Program - including Turbo consists of box and paperwork for you to ship your EC to Jet to have chip soldered in - you pay freight to Jet, they ship it back for free price: $366.67
5.Hotshot headers price: $ 355.00
6.Apexi N1 Exhaust 2000+ Toyota Celica GT/GTS price: 449.00
7. A'pexi Super AFC II Computer price $339.65
8. GReddy Profec B - Electronic Boost Controller (Black) price: $396.90
9. Turbo Kit price 3500.00
10. TRD's Quick Shifter Kit price: 129.99



that V-Force thing isn't going to do anything I don't think.

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trog2233 Aug 21, 4:52pm - #38020 

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Ummm?? in ur list of things..u have the hotshot header and the turbo??

U can't use a header if you do a turbo it comes with its own custom manifold
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UFCELI Aug 21, 4:53pm - #38021 

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After all that stuff you might be pushin 270+ hp. But after that there arent a lot of engine mods you can do.

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IcEd blUe Aug 21, 4:55pm - #38022 

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you forgot port and polish
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Kenred Aug 21, 4:56pm - #38023 

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Ahhh, ok I understand now, so if they're more stuff for the GTS to get more Hp?
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trog2233 Aug 21, 4:57pm - #38024 

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Originally Posted by Kenred
Ahhh, ok I understand now, so if they're more stuff for the GTS to get more Hp?


If ur turboing it you probably better off with the GT..just for the whole point it has a lower compression thumbsup
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spaztikid Aug 21, 5:03pm - #38025 
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you could bore your engine out and get pistons.
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Kenred Aug 21, 5:05pm - #38026 

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ohh ok, another question tho, like is there a forced induction for the GTS that is out on the market, because from what I'm hearing, that GT wont be able to get up with a GT stang and thats bad on my part, but I might just Trade it off, and get a GTS, but could you or somebody give me a list of things I could use for the GTS?
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VSGTS14 Aug 21, 5:08pm - #38027 

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why don't you just buy a WRX?

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Evan Aug 21, 5:13pm - #38028 

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Originally Posted by VSGTS14
why don't you just buy a WRX?


honestly, for the amount of money you would have to spend you should just buy a faster car like the wrx sti (300hp).

It'll be under warranty, save you a lot of headaches, and in the end.. probably even a little cheaper than doing all those mods to make your celica faster.

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Rice Aug 21, 5:13pm - #38029 

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if you're going turbo, you need to be extra careful about upgrading engine internals.

If you are really serious about throwing thousands upon thousands of dollars into your car in order to get 500 hp or more, talk to Rod Millen about how he built his Pikes Peak Celica racer...maybe they can custom build you an engine.
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Kenred Aug 21, 5:23pm - #38030 

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I dont like the WRX, its somethin about them I just dont like, but where can I talk to Rod Millen?
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redracer311 Aug 21, 6:10pm - #38031 
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I have got a hotshot header, AEM Intake, Borla exhaust, jet chip, B&M short throw, I just bought a AEM pulley and haven't put it on yet (still debating whether or not to get the unorthodox setup). I am happy with all my mods but if I had to do it over I would have gotten an Injen Intake and perhaps the Tanabe Exhaust. Also if you are going to do the turbo then wait on the jet chip until everything else is done. And a agree you won't reach more than 250 horsepower at the wheels without really doing some internals and a lot of psi. And although your celica may be slower than your eclipse, in my opinion it looks a lot sharper.
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Rice Aug 21, 6:14pm - #38032 

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Originally Posted by Kenred
I dont like the WRX, its somethin about them I just dont like, but where can I talk to Rod Millen?


http://www.rodmillen.com

You better be willing to throw down some serious cash for them to even consider putting together a 500 hp celica for you. I mean, we're talking about an ungodly amount of money.
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DJ_Curtiz Aug 21, 6:24pm - #38033 
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I think this dude shoudl just buy this lol if it does ever become a reality...
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XxNavixX Aug 21, 8:27pm - #38034 
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Originally Posted by redracer311
I have got a hotshot header, AEM intake, Borla exhaust, jet chip, B&M short throw, I just bought a AEM pulley and haven't put it on yet (still debating whether or not to get the unorthodox setup). I am happy with all my mods but if I had to do it over I would have gotten an Injen intake and perhaps the Tanabe Exhaust. Also if you are going to do the turbo then wait on the jet chip until everything else is done. And a agree you won't reach more than 250 horsepower at the wheels without really doing some internals and a lot of psi. And although your celica may be slower than your eclipse, in my opinion it looks a lot sharper.


why would you have perfered a Injen Intake?
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ssgsky Aug 21, 9:36pm - #38035 

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Injen has a better sticker lol.
no in the new turbo mag, they have a gts with a turbo, it gets 251hp @ the wheels

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Street Prototype Aug 21, 10:22pm - #38036 

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hmmmmm, HP gain aye?

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Kenred Aug 21, 10:39pm - #38037 

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Whats the name of that Turbo for the GTS?
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Street Prototype Aug 21, 10:42pm - #38038 

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Originally Posted by Kenred
Whats the name of that Turbo for the GTS?


XS Engineering

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lanceg33 Aug 21, 11:35pm - #38039 

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Dude, you are looking at some insane coin for getting a Celica to that level. Why go through that headache? Why not get a track model 350z - mods are springing up for that thing daily. Getting to 500 hp for that car would be less painful and invasive to the vehicle.

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Kenred Aug 22, 1:37am - #38040 

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Thanks for all the information, but I think imma just stuck with my GT and atleast get it to 300hp and call it a day, I got to save up for that GT300 Body Kit, the price on it is just a wee bit to high, I mean for the Front Bumper and The Rear and the side skirts without that Carbor part should cost that much, I mean its crazy that you have to pay that much for that kit, its like what 3grand or more. I wish I could find a Kit that was simlair to that one
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Speed4TheNeed Aug 22, 4:51am - #38041 

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ouch..trying to push 500 horses out of a gt? rofl but i do agree that it could--technically--be done, but not realistically. by the time you finish putting all that cash into your gt you can hopefully find some time to sob because you could have just bought a infinity g35 frown
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IcEd blUe Aug 22, 4:52am - #38042 

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Originally Posted by sPeEd4tHeNeEd
ouch..trying to push 500 horses out of a gt? rofl but i do agree that it could--technically--be done, but not realistically. by the time you finish putting all that cash into your gt you can hopefully find some time to sob because you could have just bought a infinity g35 frown


infiniti g35?? for the price of gettin a celica gt to 500hp?? yea dude its more like, you could have just bought a lamborghini
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Speed4TheNeed Aug 22, 4:52am - #38043 

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i don't know if they sell the gt300 kit in separate pieces..i think you have to buy it all. because of the limited # of kits available by apr picking & choosing doesnt seem right. someone please correct me if i am wrong (i would LOVE to be wrong actually..i'd love to have that kit also)
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Speed4TheNeed Aug 22, 4:53am - #38044 

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haha or a lamborghini..but their $350,000
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Speed4TheNeed Aug 22, 4:53am - #38045 

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look at it this way..matt scrantons 6 second tubonetics celica was about $100,000 but it pushes like 1500 horses
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Speed4TheNeed Aug 22, 4:55am - #38046 

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lol unless you buy an old countach or diablo maybe thumbsdown
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Speed4TheNeed Aug 22, 4:59am - #38047 

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good point sean...nitrous is one of the easiest ways to get power. it just gets so darn expensive over time and you really shouldnt use more than a 30 shot if you plan on keeping your engine around for years to come.
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Speed4TheNeed Aug 22, 5:05am - #38048 

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kenred..with your list of mods i say you'd get a ballpark figure of about 220. the only major horsepower increases would come from the turbo (about 30), from the header (about 10), and the extra tuning after you add those bolt-ons (about 10-15). again, somebody correct me if my figures are off..and i really think thats a best-case scenario. just because a factory gt is rated at 160 horses doesnt mean you'll get anywhere near that..your probably only pushing a true 140-145 horses at the wheels. so you have to start from there. (another reason why i find it hard to beleive an eclipse is running 500--but there are things more bizarre than that are proven to be true.)
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Kenred Aug 22, 6:53am - #38049 

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With the Mods and the help, and internal work, i'm pushin maybe that much, but I'm not completly accurate on my hp on my Ecplise I have my psi level set around 35psi with my Garrett Racing Turbo, but like I said I'm not accuarate on my hp
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4skin Aug 22, 6:55am - #38050 

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If money is no question theres a company that takes and completly rebuilts block from the bottom up with a turbo I hear some people cranking 450hp at the wheels. I cant remember the link do search I believe it costs $13,000 with a donor engine.
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Kenred Aug 22, 6:59am - #38051 

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if you could try and find out for me?
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4skin Aug 22, 5:04pm - #38052 

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I cant find the exact website but here is a good start.

http://www.eiptuning.com/projects/toyotacelicaturboproject.html
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Speed4TheNeed Aug 23, 6:15am - #38053 

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trial makes what they call a 3zz engine swap..it may only be for the gts though. it takes your original 2zz engine and puts new valves, etc to make a "3zz"...which they say gives you 220 horses at the wheels (on japanese 108 octane). visit the trial website for more info.
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Speed4TheNeed Aug 23, 6:18am - #38054 

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for about 4 g's you can get trial to give you what they call a "3zz" engine (may only be for gts though..i forget). they take your donated 2zz engine and increase the size of the valves, etc to make it a "3zz". its rated (by trial..not independently verified) to give you about 220 horses at the wheels (thats on japanese 108 octane fuel). visit the trial site for more info.
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