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Ive decided to get a short shifter to quicken up my shifts. Ive ruled out the twm cause its too damn short looking and it sounds like reverse is hard to get into and i back in spaces all the time.

Im thinking that I should get the TRD or the B&M. I want it to be quicker but i dont want to have to fight with it. The B&M is shorter so it looks like it would be a bit quicker but I would imagine the TRD would be smoother. What should I get.

If you caould include where has good pricing that would be cool too. I wanna buy it this week. Theres a lot of places out there. It seems like it will be around 150 for either but if I can get either cheaper let me know.

EDIT: I have a 2000 GTS with the 6 speed

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well between b&m and trd i would go b&m for sure. dont know where they sell for a good price

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go B&M...god its been so long since i got mine i dont know where i got mine.


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i know you can find it cheaper than that. im thinkin around $130

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i have trd and it's smooth but then again it's not that short but i still love it


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suprastore.com has the B&M SS for $125.00, Thats the cheapest that I found Brand new. Good luck.

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I have a B&M knockoff (the same stuff) and the shorter stick doesn't mean the shorter throws. No pun intended and no fun intended.
I believe no SS for the Celica or most/all cars will make you shift sooner/quicker without causing wear and tear to other more important parts of your transmission or synchros.
It's the throw that is different, the stiffness that is different, the precision that is different, and the shorter stick that is different.
This has no bearings on how fast you can get the transmission itself to whine down or up without causing a bit of premature wear because you are cramming the shifter into gear. The SS gives the inexperienced driver an excuse for shifting earlier into the next gear without worry until they blow the engine or wear the transmission because they think a short shifter is OK and means shift quick.
The SS is just another piece to the puzzle.
Add a SS, what's next?

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actually i think b&m sits lower then twm and i have no problem using reverse, i reverse like 5 times a day too


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b&m shorter than twm? no way

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If you couldnt shift quicker it would be totally useless. Im checking out suprastore now.

EDIT: Before I buy I just want to make sure that the B&M is not transmition specific. By that I mean It will work on the 5 or 6 speed. Im askingcause I always see it as a gt/gts option. I have the 6 speed and want to make sure i get the right thing

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Bump cause I wanna buy it tonite

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it should specify that it's for the gts or the gt.

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TWM sits lower than B&M
B&M rules, it's real nice.
ok, you are buying it tonight, buy B&M and you won't regret anything at all. you can slap me if you don't like it, but if you don't buy it, i'll slap you. rofl

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got my B&M from suprastore ... i'd get TRD though

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i've got a b&m and got if off nopi.com for about 130 i think...i got it last july but i never put it in lol lazyiness definitely runs rampant with me!!! this spring it will be done tho..mar grink my words...but definitely by summer time..

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Bought a B&M from suprastore for 135 after shipping. Cant wait till its in

Thanks for all the help

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ebayt has them too but i think its same proce a suprastore

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yeah man i bought my B&M ss from hopupracing.com it was 139...when i first installed it, it was like shifting a stick through mud, but that was prolly due to the fact that its 10 degrees in nebraska, but after a week of driving, its smooth as crap shifting..i installed it myself and it took like 2 hours, lol, but im still learning the tricks of the trade! its a good buy bro!

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congrats on ur b&m shifter..hope you like it.. i got a twm one..its short.but i like it thumbsuphope you like the B&M one too. let us kno when you put it in


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"If you couldnt shift quicker it would be totally useless"

It's not useless, that's why the call it a short shifter not a quick shifter. The SS will let you think you are shifting quicker due to inexperience. The SS has more to it.
That's why the never ending debate on which SS.
I can get it into gear before you, my stick is shorter, and my throws are stiffer, but my transmission doesn't agree and my synchros are whining.
How and why? I wonder?

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if anyone wants a twm id be interested in trading them one for a b&m or maybe trd

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Well either way I bought one but suprastore sent it to my LA address and not San Diego like I asked. The guy on the phone said he would hook me up on a flywheel for it so i think ill get one soon.

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^^ a free flywheel...thats a helluva good deal

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congrats on purchase but just to clarify i have twm and i have no problems going into reverse its only stiff for like the first week you have it if that.. then its smooth like butter as long as you install properly and use grease.. remember to use some grease on the shifter when installing


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^^ a free flywheel...thats a helluva good deal

Nothings free. He said Hed discount a flywheel but im not sure I want to get one. I dont think ill benefit enough

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