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does anyone know whats the most HP possible on a NA gts engine?

like after all the possible engine mods
example: cai,exhaust,headers,cams,pulleys etc...

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would turbo,nitrous and that stuff count too?


edit:you can probably make your celica have 1000hp if you have the money

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no, no turbo or NOS


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Originally Posted by TRD604
no, no turbo or NOS

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hence N/A


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Depends, how much money do you have?

Making a point, not really asking a question. Pretty much anything is possible.

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HHmmmm.

It is 193 stock. Right?

Cai and Exhaust with Headers moves it up to about 210-215.

Cams up to 225? Pulleys 235-240?

Then you can richen the fuel, make the air intake bigger, Bigger fuel pump, Better hoses on everything, High flow fuel hose.

Then you are maybe around 260? 270?

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Originally Posted by Magnus
HHmmmm.

It is 193 stock. Right?

Cai and Exhaust with Headers moves it up to about 210-215.

Cams up to 225? Pulleys 235-240?

Then you can richen the fuel, make the air intake bigger, Bigger fuel pump, Better hoses on everything, High flow fuel hose.

Then you are maybe around 260? 270?

WAY OFF!!!

Comes 180 to the crank. Around 165 to the wheels. After cams, pullies, intake, header, exhaust, internals, port and polish. You would be lucky to get 220 to the wheels.

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180 stock

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Originally Posted by Grand-Touring-Dan
Originally Posted by Magnus
HHmmmm.

It is 193 stock. Right?

Cai and Exhaust with Headers moves it up to about 210-215.

Cams up to 225? Pulleys 235-240?

Then you can richen the fuel, make the air intake bigger, Bigger fuel pump, Better hoses on everything, High flow fuel hose.

Then you are maybe around 260? 270?

WAY OFF!!!

Comes 180 to the crank. Around 165 to the wheels. After cams, pullies, intake, header, exhaust, internals, port and polish. You would be lucky to get 220 to the wheels.

Well here in Iceland its 193 stock smile

Thats about 170 to the wheels.

I was just making a "rough" guess. I think its preety close though

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so theoretically if we did an ECU swap with an Icelandic Celica would we get that 193 hp stock?


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Originally Posted by Caerie
so theoretically if we did an ECU swap with an Icelandic Celica would we get that 193 hp stock?

Well im not sure.

Maybe its the same engina. But they say its 193 and they get that from Toyota Japan.

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well one of the turbos i saw in a mag yesterday had the celi gts at 241 at the wheels


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Originally Posted by Caerie
so theoretically if we did an ECU swap with an Icelandic Celica would we get that 193 hp stock?

Don't know about that, but in the netherlands, the GTS has 193 HP too

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i am always thinking about that question too.
they got 193 in japan and 180 here, there is a thread saying it's only the fuel making the difference, lazy to find it tho..idk~ i wanna the answer too wave


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ricer logic

Originally Posted by Magnus
HHmmmm.

It is 193 stock. Right?

Cai and Exhaust with Headers moves it up to about 210-215.

Cams up to 225? Pulleys 235-240?

Then you can richen the fuel, make the air intake bigger, Bigger fuel pump, Better hoses on everything, High flow fuel hose.

Then you are maybe around 260? 270?

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Originally Posted by Steven
ricer logic

Originally Posted by Magnus
HHmmmm.

It is 193 stock. Right?

Cai and Exhaust with Headers moves it up to about 210-215.

Cams up to 225? Pulleys 235-240?

Then you can richen the fuel, make the air intake bigger, Bigger fuel pump, Better hoses on everything, High flow fuel hose.

Then you are maybe around 260? 270?

hhahhahahhaha damn straight.


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The European Celica's (GTS) have 189HP @ 7,800RPM
American Celica's (GTS) have 180HP @ 7,600RPM

The power of 193HP that was said before is true and false at the same time.
An Europan HP is not the same as a Brittish or American HP. The horses over here are less strong.

1 EU HP = 0,73549875 kW
1 US HP = 0,7457 kW

The difference is because of the definition.
1 Brittish/American HP is the power produced by an average coalminehorse in 1,800 in England. (lifting a mass of 550lbm with a speed of 1foot/s.

1 European HP is the power needed to lift 75kg with a speed of 1m/s.

So if we all would use the kW we wouldn't have any problems.

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Originally Posted by Marco_L
The European Celica's (GTS) have 189HP @ 7,800RPM
American Celica's (GTS) have 180HP @ 7,600RPM

The power of 193HP that was said before is true and false at the same time.
An Europan HP is not the same as a Brittish or American HP. The horses over here are less strong.

1 EU HP = 0,73549875 kW
1 US HP = 0,7457 kW

The difference is because of the definition.
1 Brittish/American HP is the power produced by an average coalminehorse in 1,800 in England. (lifting a mass of 550lbm with a speed of 1foot/s.

1 European HP is the power needed to lift 75kg with a speed of 1m/s.

So if we all would use the kW we wouldn't have any problems.

good research...i learned a lot thumbsup


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so...what's the most you can bore out a stock celica engine? what kind of hp gains would that give w/ bolt ons, p&p, cams, fuel pump, injectors, and new ECU?

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