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celicadragon Jan 10, 1:13pm - #370289 

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trial Celica in "super street" magazine

did anyone see this car? i think its pretty cool, its got a 3zz engine which i am thinking about doing and it supercharged. wonder if a 3zz motor would go good with a c2gas turbo kit? just thought id see what everyone thinks of this car.
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CelicaGTizzle Jan 10, 1:16pm - #370290 

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If I'm not mistaking the 3ZZ runs like a 12:1 compression which would be better for NA instead of FI...

My car is gunna be 10x faster than yours...haha... I'm gunna buy like 10
of those speedchips! I figure if 1 gets me 20hp then 10 will get me 200hp!
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drkramm Jan 10, 1:47pm - #370291 
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nope its 10.5:1 stil not the perfect f/i motor but it works

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Clos Jan 10, 3:09pm - #370292 
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^^^^^you are wrong here
Compression for the kit is raised to 13:7.1
here is a link to the site
click here
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Chaz Jan 10, 3:44pm - #370293 
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wow a 1zz to 3zz kit is $7500 eek

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hombredelassrtas Jan 10, 4:03pm - #370294 

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never herd of a 3zz engine. waht are its specs?

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Chaz Jan 10, 5:06pm - #370295 
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Originally Posted by hombredelassrtas
never herd of a 3zz engine. waht are its specs?


check out the link to Trial's web site in a post above.

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Lucky_317 Jan 10, 5:44pm - #370296 

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the 3zz is a marketing tool by trial. it's a combination of the 1zz and 2zz. it's supposed to put out more torque. it's also listed as 13:1 compression but I'm sre you can change it to anything you want.

IMO, you're better off stickin with the 2zz.

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celicadragon Jan 10, 6:03pm - #370297 

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that car is an all out race car and looks real good though-i'm not sure how good that supercharger is working witht hat high conmpression ratio

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Midknyt Jan 10, 6:33pm - #370298 

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Originally Posted by Lucky_317
the 3zz is a marketing tool by trial. it's a combination of the 1zz and 2zz. it's supposed to put out more torque. it's also listed as 13:1 compression but I'm sre you can change it to anything you want.

IMO, you're better off stickin with the 2zz.



I've known about this Trial 3ZZ for a while and often wondered about its viability as a real "next step up" given that it reads (in their presentation) as a "logical" progression but at a cost that seems, to put it mildly, high. Also, I visit this site (everythingcelica.com) pretty much everyday (overall, no other Celica site comes across as much like a family community as this one does) and, even though I seldom post myself (I'm an older guy and not all that talkative cool ), I read a LOT of posts. Consequently, there are members, regular post-ers, here that, I've learned, know what they're talking about and make an honest, hard working attempt to stay knowledgeable. Lucky is one of those who over time has earned my respect when it comes to discussing "smartly" improving the Celica's performance. So, this post REALLY caught my eye and, therefore, Lucky, I would really appreciate further expansion on what you said about the 3ZZ. Not because I'm questioning it, but just to learn your thinking behind it. Learning what I don't know is one of the best ways to keep on the right track for balancing out money invested with performance gained. And, its not like my check was in the mail to Trial by any means, thats way more than I can I just pull out of my pocket at any one time, but I was really thinking (hoping?) that they had researched a "smart" performance upgrade plan for our wonderful little cars.

(And, yeah, one of the reasons I don't post much is because I'm long-winded. grin )

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drkramm Jan 10, 7:01pm - #370299 
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Originally Posted by Clos

^^^^^you are wrong here
Compression for the kit is raised to 13:7.1
here is a link to the site
click here



i was looking at stock http://www.bpidirect.com/e-shopping/e-auto/toyota/altis.html

so next time before you try to get cocky think it out

according to your link
Compression for the kit is raised to 13:7.1 but it can be left at just a little over stock or even lowered.. The higher compression increases power but would cause problems with lower octane gas. You may also special order low compression pistons


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hombredelassrtas Jan 10, 8:41pm - #370300 

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hey mark, nice to meet'cha

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Midknyt Jan 10, 9:51pm - #370301 

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Originally Posted by hombredelassrtas
hey mark, nice to meet'cha


Thank'ye, Dan. Likewise. wave

If I'm not careful, I'm actually gonna break the 50 posts mark in less than three years!!! And here I accuse my wife of being a ratchet jaw. happywink

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