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maingear Jan 10, 1:35am - #369725 

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GTS only reves to 6000

[color=blue][/color] 2002 GTS 6 speed. No engine mods. 21K MI. I was going home this morning from work and engine would only rev to 6000 Pedel travel was normal. I got home on a back road (80MI later) ran like a scalded dog - no defects noted. Is there a safe mode for when the engine was cool? I was racing cars 5 hours before the trip home. temp was 45 Degrees. No lights warning lights to indicate trouble. Any Ideas what is going on? (The TSB for the Lift bolt has not been done to my knowledge)
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RookieGTS Jan 10, 1:42am - #369726 

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umm maybe you didnt let the car warm up enough?
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VSCelica24 Jan 10, 1:43am - #369727 

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someone will correct me if im wrong on this but isnt it with the 2002 celica's there is a chip in there and only lets them rev so high which 6000 might be it? confused

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drkramm Jan 10, 1:45am - #369728 
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Originally Posted by VSCelica24
someone will correct me if im wrong on this but isnt it with the 2002 celica's there is a chip in there and only lets them rev so high which 6000 might be it? confused


they are diffrent i think its like 8k thoguh the car won't let you go into lift when its cold (when the engines on one of the first 2 notches on temp gauge)

your all good lol just let your car warm up before racing !

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No, in order to rev past 6000 and hit lift in the GTS, the engine temperature must be at least two "ticks" up on the gauge.. it's a safety precaution from over-revving a cold engine.

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Right, just what you said, drakramm. Posted at the same time wink
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drkramm Jan 10, 2:26am - #369731 
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Originally Posted by atomic837
Right, just what you said, drakramm. Posted at the same time wink


lol i was reading that and thinking "is this guy nuts he jsut said no to me when he said the same thing" lol but then i saw the time

lollol

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hephaestus Jan 10, 2:29am - #369732 
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I believe that the car wasn't warmed up enough also.

I'm going on the same thought and bear with me.

I have a 2000 GTS and my car was warming up in my driveway for 10 min. + and then I was driving around for 30 min + with no trouble.

At a stop light I drove off normaly until 3rd gear when I decided to punch it at around 3500 RPM's. At 4000 RPM's at full throttle my car hit like it seemed a full cut off. No acceleration and jolted me in my seat.
I shifted to 4th quickly and proceded full throttle to exactly 4000 RPM's when the same thing happened.
Any explanation on this?

I hit lift numerous times after that in every gear and even in the same day. Just that one time something went crazy. Any thoughts?
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maingear Jan 10, 3:02am - #369733 

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Great so my car is not putting out untill it's warmed up? Sounds like may wife man! cry 8000 is normal in my car
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silver Jan 10, 5:38am - #369734 
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What octane were you using?
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LmtZero Jan 10, 5:52am - #369735 

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Originally Posted by maingear
Great so my car is not putting out untill it's warmed up? Sounds like may wife man! cry 8000 is normal in my car



Heh, wives... good analogy rofl Everything needs a little warming up to make it work right. I agree with everyone, watch your sensors. Especially when a Mustang or something pulls up to you right outta your driveway.

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Lucky_317 Jan 10, 6:47am - #369736 

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it's the same as your nuetral rev limiter. it stops you at 7,100 rpms.

If your car is in nuetral you will hit it.

If your car is too cold you will hit it

If you have a bad launch and over spin the tires you will hit it.
(the ecu thinks you're free reving and sends you into the rev limiter)
I have 15" dr's and I got this a few times because of the smaller tire. I accellerated too fast and the ecu hit the limiter.

We've also had it happen on a turbo gts running a lighter flywheel. he just went too fast for the ecu to understand rofl

anyways. hope this helps explain things grin

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clockwork Jan 10, 8:44am - #369737 

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Originally Posted by hephaestus
I believe that the car wasn't warmed up enough also.

I'm going on the same thought and bear with me.

I have a 2000 GTS and my car was warming up in my driveway for 10 min. + and then I was driving around for 30 min + with no trouble.

At a stop light I drove off normaly until 3rd gear when I decided to punch it at around 3500 RPM's. At 4000 RPM's at full throttle my car hit like it seemed a full cut off. No acceleration and jolted me in my seat.
I shifted to 4th quickly and proceded full throttle to exactly 4000 RPM's when the same thing happened.
Any explanation on this?

I hit lift numerous times after that in every gear and even in the same day. Just that one time something went crazy. Any thoughts?


this is exactly what my car is doing, only mine cuts out around 7000rpms. i know what you mean about it jolting you in your seat...my girlfriend was getting mad because i kept doing it, she thought i was messing with her.

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maingear Jan 10, 9:05am - #369738 

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Very Interesting!!!!!!!!

I'm using 91 octain religously. It's from a local refinary that uses low sulfer U.S. oil!! none of that crapy Saudi shit here!! It's not watered down with methanal either!


The pavement was wet when I hit it.
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Lucky_317 Jan 10, 6:06pm - #369739 

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sounds like you simply over spun the tires wink

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clockwork Jan 11, 5:54am - #369740 

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thats a negative tongue, its more like the engine cuts out completly and then cuts back in..you go forward, than you slam back into your seat cry

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Lucky_317 Jan 11, 5:59am - #369741 

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^^ not you lol the guy driving in the wet lol.

did you try cleaning your vvti filter? I think camarillo is rather far or I'd say come on down and we can check it out lol

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BlueGTS Jan 11, 9:49pm - #369742 

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I had a problem with the engine not being able to rev over the 6k mark one time. I took it to toyota and they say the cam sensor was grounding out and it really was messing the car up. Im sure thats not the case here, it just sounds as if the car wasnt at proper running temp.

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clockwork Jan 12, 6:48am - #369743 

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that would be cool but it is kinda far, and i run a buisness 7 days a week. i only work on my car at night spineyes anyways, i didnt know i had a vvti filter? im gonna check the fuel pump this weekend maybe.

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Lucky_317 Jan 12, 10:32am - #369744 

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^^ yeah thats why I post at like 1-2 am like now lol thats usually when I work on the car.

I wrote a guide on how to clean the vvti filter. it shoud be in the garage section of this site.

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CelicaGuy13 Jan 15, 2:44am - #369745 

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I had the same problem, if ur car doesnt warm up quickly check ur thermostat or replace it while checking it because its a bi*** to get to it.
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clockwork Jan 18, 7:42am - #369746 

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Good news..it fixed itself! I just love it when cars do that thumbsup hasn't done it since last week. thanks for the advice anyways Lucky, if i have the same problem again ill know where to start.

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GTS_Rosh Jan 18, 7:20pm - #369747 

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Originally Posted by clockwork

Good news..it fixed itself! I just love it when cars do that thumbsup hasn't done it since last week. thanks for the advice anyways Lucky, if i have the same problem again ill know where to start.


Still wonder what the heck caused it in the first place...perhaps some junk in the fuel system..fuel filter, that finally passed its way through?

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keeblercelica Jan 19, 6:59am - #369748 
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If your celi is low on oil it will not rev past 4k rpms. Its a safety feature that protects your engine from locking up when oil is low. Not that I've ever ran my car with low oil or anything rolleyes *cough* two engines and 4 tranny's within 6 months *cough*
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