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Jan 8, 3:19pm - #368634 
enigine swap

I've learned the Lotus has a GTS motor!? is that true?
I want to swap enigines for my car, any suggestions?
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Jan 8, 3:27pm - #368635 
yes it has a gts motor


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Jan 8, 4:33pm - #368636 
and i believe it puts out 190 hp


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Jan 8, 4:35pm - #368637 
yea but thats all exhaust and computor you put a decent exhaust ona gts and with the pfc you'll get the 190


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Jan 8, 8:59pm - #368638 
yeah not only that ^^^i heard its cause the lotus is lighter than a B*tch too!


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Jan 8, 9:37pm - #368639 
it doesn't have more hp because it is light weight...you still have 190 hp in a 5000lbs car and a 1500lbs car..


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Jan 8, 11:52pm - #368640 
thank god there was 1 redeeming post for california.

If the elise has a gts motor and you have a GTS, WTF would you want to swap it for ????????? confused

My suggestions is learn a lil bit more about your car and the engine in it before you think about a swap again. thumbsup

thats the best advice I can give ya.


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Jan 9, 1:39pm - #368641 
Is it possible to use the lotus's ecu on a celica gts?

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Jan 9, 1:57pm - #368642 
not sure if you can cause there's other things in a care besides just the engine. but it probably wouldn't be worth it because it would probably be just about as expencive to order a lotus ECU as gettin ga power FC and the Power FC probably has a lot more options for tuning than a stock car ECU.

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Jan 9, 2:00pm - #368643 
NO you can't thumbsdown

Buy a PFC and tune it. However, before you do anything start reading and learning.

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Jan 9, 3:18pm - #368644 
rofl rofl rofl

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Jan 9, 3:59pm - #368645 
Originally Posted by BigTony
it doesn't have more hp because it is light weight...you still have 190 hp in a 5000lbs car and a 1500lbs car..


i didnt say it has more hp, just that its faster than the celica cause its way more lighter...and its pointless to swap rofl rofl just cause you have the same engine as the lotus doesnt mean your gonna be as fast as one


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Jan 9, 4:48pm - #368646 
a stock lotus ECU is the same as ours. WTF is wrong with people confused confused


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Jan 9, 4:49pm - #368647 
this thread is proof positive that there is such a thing as a stupid question. and worse the stupid answers a stupid question can get rofl spineyes


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Jan 11, 9:49am - #368648 
rofl rofl^^^be nice man~

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Jan 11, 10:01am - #368649 
rofl rofl rofl you guys are hilarious.

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Jan 11, 7:11pm - #368650 
If I see one more thread with Lotus and Celica mentioned together...


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Jan 12, 7:15pm - #368651 
Originally Posted by Lucky_317

a stock lotus ECU is the same as ours. WTF is wrong with people confused confused


Um, sorry to dissapoint you, but the Lotus and the Celica do not use the same ECU acording the the Elise owners who have checked it out, Lotus uses their own ECU with the 2ZZ, and the wiring harneses aren't the same (so, they can't be interchanged without a harness)

Lotus definitley retuned for their car, the flat spot just before lift has been fixed, by slightly lowering lift engagement and adjusting the cam phasing. Apparently they also showed toyota what they did, so this tuning will probably be used on future 2ZZ applications.

However, aside from this, most of the actual gains came from the exhaust, and some tuning to the ECU to optimize it. You can do the same with an exhaust, Intake and Power FC, you'll probably see better gains.

The ONE advantage to using a Lotus ECU may just be hinged upon wether or not it's more receptive to reprogramming than the Toyota ECU. However, nobody has dug that deep into it yet. Upgrading may be as easy as plugging in a tuner module or a new chip.


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Jan 12, 9:18pm - #368652 
Originally Posted by Rave669
Originally Posted by Lucky_317
a stock lotus ECU is the same as ours. WTF is wrong with people confused confused


Um, sorry to dissapoint you, but the Lotus and the Celica do not use the same ECU acording the the Elise owners who have checked it out, Lotus uses their own ECU with the 2ZZ, and the wiring harneses aren't the same (so, they can't be interchanged without a harness)

Lotus definitley retuned for their car, the flat spot just before lift has been fixed, by slightly lowering lift engagement and adjusting the cam phasing. Apparently they also showed toyota what they did, so this tuning will probably be used on future 2ZZ applications.

However, aside from this, most of the actual gains came from the exhaust, and some tuning to the ECU to optimize it. You can do the same with an exhaust, Intake and Power FC, you'll probably see better gains.

The ONE advantage to using a Lotus ECU may just be hinged upon wether or not it's more receptive to reprogramming than the Toyota ECU. However, nobody has dug that deep into it yet. Upgrading may be as easy as plugging in a tuner module or a new chip.


that was supposed to say NOT the same rofl I suckj at typing and I rarely check to make sure its right lol

the plugs for the ecu are also different so you'd need an adapter of some kind to even try it. but it's NOT worth doing.


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Jan 12, 9:30pm - #368653 
um. this thread is pointless. I mean the topic is engine swap and both engines are the same...so. lol. If you get the Power_FC its like the same thing as getting the ECU. And its much much cheaper. It takes like 2min to install. And if you buy it from monkey wrench racing its already tuned to your car.


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Jan 13, 1:14am - #368654 
^^ actually it's like 100 x better lol and I doubt it's cheaper though.


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Jan 16, 11:02am - #368655 
thanks for all the replies! I learned a lot from all these comments. Btw, I don't have a GtS its only my Sn


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