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steel block #367594 Jan 7, 1:24am Jan 7, 1:24am
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steel block
does anyone know if ppl are making a steel block engine for our cars?

although steel is much heavier, it's more reliable than aluminum.

just thought i ask

Re: steel block [Re: g96818] #367595 Jan 7, 2:02pm Jan 7, 2:02pm
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rofl

Re: steel block [Re: g96818] #367596 Jan 7, 2:21pm Jan 7, 2:21pm
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Originally Posted by g96818
does anyone know if ppl are making a steel block engine for our cars?

although steel is much heavier, it's more reliable than aluminum.

just thought i ask


umm i wanna know why its better? could someone insight me a bit?

Re: steel block [Re: RookieGTS] #367597 Jan 7, 2:26pm Jan 7, 2:26pm
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maybe because its more reinforced than aluminum. spineyes


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Re: steel block [Re: RookieGTS] #367598 Jan 7, 2:38pm Jan 7, 2:38pm
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A steel block ("iron" block, whatever) is less prone to warping if it overheats. But as far as I know, thats really the only advantage anymore. IMHO, the weight advantage of using aluminum is more than worth the tradeoff for the increased risk of warping. After all, you can counteract heating with a larger capacity, reliable cooling system. I think racing engines are pretty muuch aliminum anymore anyway.

Who would want to cart around an extra 500 or so lbs in their Celica just to have an iron block anyway?


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Re: steel block [Re: ExNihilo] #367599 Jan 7, 3:08pm Jan 7, 3:08pm
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he is probably asking this since the supra block is iron, right?


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Re: steel block [Re: celicadragon] #367600 Jan 7, 3:10pm Jan 7, 3:10pm
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and the gt-4/all-trac


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Re: steel block [Re: Zero] #367601 Jan 7, 3:18pm Jan 7, 3:18pm
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true , forgot about that one but those cars are heavy and that may be the reason why with those engines


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Re: steel block [Re: ExNihilo] #367602 Jan 7, 3:21pm Jan 7, 3:21pm
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^^^ i wouldnt.

Re: steel block [Re: RookieGTS] #367603 Jan 7, 3:28pm Jan 7, 3:28pm
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The Hotchkis Celica has a TRD Steel Sleved block... perhaps a better alternative

Re: steel block [Re: HJC_Celica] #367604 Jan 7, 3:32pm Jan 7, 3:32pm
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that makes more sense


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Re: steel block [Re: celicadragon] #367605 Jan 7, 4:27pm Jan 7, 4:27pm
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thinking about F/I w/ super-high boost?

dude, just have a machinist install Darton iron sleeves in your Al block. thumbsup

1zz:
http://monkeywrenchracing.com/darton_sleeves_toyota_1zz_fe.html

2zz:
http://monkeywrenchracing.com/darton_sleeves_toyota_2zz_ge.html


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Re: steel block [Re: QTRMLR_1] #367606 Jan 7, 4:32pm Jan 7, 4:32pm
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do like trial and make a 3zz engine...with steel sleeves


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