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g96818
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Jan 7, 1:24am - #367594 
steel block

does anyone know if ppl are making a steel block engine for our cars?

although steel is much heavier, it's more reliable than aluminum.

just thought i ask

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Jan 7, 2:02pm - #367595 
rofl

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Jan 7, 2:21pm - #367596 
Originally Posted by g96818
does anyone know if ppl are making a steel block engine for our cars?

although steel is much heavier, it's more reliable than aluminum.

just thought i ask


umm i wanna know why its better? could someone insight me a bit?

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Jan 7, 2:26pm - #367597 
maybe because its more reinforced than aluminum. spineyes


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Jan 7, 2:38pm - #367598 
A steel block ("iron" block, whatever) is less prone to warping if it overheats. But as far as I know, thats really the only advantage anymore. IMHO, the weight advantage of using aluminum is more than worth the tradeoff for the increased risk of warping. After all, you can counteract heating with a larger capacity, reliable cooling system. I think racing engines are pretty muuch aliminum anymore anyway.

Who would want to cart around an extra 500 or so lbs in their Celica just to have an iron block anyway?


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Jan 7, 3:08pm - #367599 
he is probably asking this since the supra block is iron, right?


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Jan 7, 3:10pm - #367600 
and the gt-4/all-trac


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Jan 7, 3:18pm - #367601 
true , forgot about that one but those cars are heavy and that may be the reason why with those engines


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Jan 7, 3:21pm - #367602 
^^^ i wouldnt.

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Jan 7, 3:28pm - #367603 
The Hotchkis Celica has a TRD Steel Sleved block... perhaps a better alternative

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Jan 7, 3:32pm - #367604 
that makes more sense


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Jan 7, 4:27pm - #367605 
thinking about F/I w/ super-high boost?

dude, just have a machinist install Darton iron sleeves in your Al block. thumbsup

1zz:
http://monkeywrenchracing.com/darton_sleeves_toyota_1zz_fe.html

2zz:
http://monkeywrenchracing.com/darton_sleeves_toyota_2zz_ge.html


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Jan 7, 4:32pm - #367606 
do like trial and make a 3zz engine...with steel sleeves


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