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Aug 14, 10:42pm - #36293 
How Do I Get More Torque?

I have a GT and I know it produces 125lbs/ft, but since I put some 18 inch rims on my car it seems like I only get 50lbs/ft. How do I get more torque. I do have a Greddy Evo Exhaust and Injen Air Intake already. And what about more horse power if possible, without getting a turbo kit?
The question is simple enough but something tells me the answer won't be!

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Aug 14, 11:09pm - #36294 
hmm..maybe some pulleys n some cam gears...

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Aug 14, 11:19pm - #36295 
take those big ass rims off. you don't need them. you have 2 options, stock rims - go semi fast or leave those big ass rims on and go slow. Sorry for being harsh and truthful but that's how it is.

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Aug 14, 11:46pm - #36296 
The wheels are hurting you. Thats the downside of having nice wheels sometimes. Pullies will definitely help, but feelings are very mixed when it comes to the UR pullies. You could also add an Intake, the gains are good, but not the best. I do not think that we have a very reliable aftermarket rigth now for cam gears, so I don't know about those. Weigth reduction may help a bit, seats, carbon fiber Hood, light weight parts (greddy exhaust is heavy).
Do some more exhaust work, header, custom mid pipe. Do some head and internal work, but that will cost you some money. Sorry this is really jumpy, its late and my mind is just rambling. Hope it gives you some ideas

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Aug 14, 11:54pm - #36297 
Get A New Car grin J/k, this isn't my field of expertise im retarded.


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Aug 14, 11:56pm - #36298 
Originally Posted by Celicatastrophe
Get A New Car grin J/k, this isn't my field of expertise im retarded.


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Aug 15, 12:01am - #36299 
Originally Posted by Steven
Originally Posted by Celicatastrophe
Get A New Car grin J/k, this isn't my field of expertise im retarded.


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My bad, I shouldn't put my two cents in unless I have helpful information. Its just late and I'm being done, my bad. Seeya. wink


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Aug 15, 8:41am - #36300 
you need to get your tire diameter back to 24". 17s with 225/40 rubber are perfect, 215/45 rubber is close.

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Aug 15, 8:51am - #36301 
Keep the rims and look cool ... just get a turbo tongue I am grin

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Aug 15, 8:59am - #36302 
Originally Posted by RicePowered
Keep the rims and look cool ... just get a turbo tongue I am grin


Exactly...get the turbo...i plan on it hopefully soon..

My GT with 18s is SLOWWWWWW.. thumbsdown

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Aug 15, 9:01am - #36303 
Originally Posted by trog2233
Originally Posted by RicePowered
Keep the rims and look cool ... just get a turbo tongue I am grin


Exactly...get the turbo...i plan on it hopefully soon..

My GT with 18s is SLOWWWWWW.. thumbsdown


If you read the original post, it says that he doesn't want to go turbo. thumbsup

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Aug 15, 9:41am - #36304 
Originally Posted by Grand-Touring-Dan
Originally Posted by trog2233
Originally Posted by RicePowered
Keep the rims and look cool ... just get a turbo tongue I am grin


Exactly...get the turbo...i plan on it hopefully soon..

My GT with 18s is SLOWWWWWW.. thumbsdown


If you read the original post, it says that he doesn't want to go turbo. thumbsup


Opps sorry i missed that grin

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Aug 15, 10:04am - #36305 
Originally Posted by Grand-Touring-Dan
Originally Posted by trog2233
Originally Posted by RicePowered
Keep the rims and look cool ... just get a turbo tongue I am grin


Exactly...get the turbo...i plan on it hopefully soon..

My GT with 18s is SLOWWWWWW.. thumbsdown


If you read the original post, it says that he doesn't want to go turbo. thumbsup


Oh I know ... but that's pretty much the most practical way to do it.

Unless he wants to rebuild the motor for high compression ... etc ...

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Aug 15, 10:44am - #36306 
Originally Posted by Gen7fan
you need to get your tire diameter back to 24". 17s with 225/40 rubber are perfect, 215/45 rubber is close.


225/40 and 215/45 is the same size, needs to go 215/40 or 205/45


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Aug 15, 11:10am - #36307 
I'm sorry bro but your wrong, there all close:



215/40/17 = 23.8"
205/45/17 = 24.3"
215/45/17 = 24.6"
225/40/17 = 24.1" (almost perfect)



Note: stock 15s are on 195/60



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Aug 16, 2:02am - #36308 
In all honesty, the 18s are going to be your worst enemy when it comes to torque. The reason for this is the fact you have more rotational mass in your rims, ie. more mass towards the exterior of the wheel/tire. Anything that adds HP is also going to add some torque, the threee easiest things to do are CAI, exhaust and alternator pulley, you could also ad UR into the mix. You have to keep in mind that 4 bangers get most of their power in the high end though. We're not going to have low end torque like a Firebird, Camaro or Rustang.

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Aug 17, 8:57pm - #36309 
Rustangs, Thats a good one...

You need to go to sports compact car website and read about part 2 of the celica gts project that they did in 2000 or 2001. It will tell you that the best rim size to get the performance you want is a 17" rim with 215/40 size tires.


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Aug 17, 9:06pm - #36310 
this is why I did NOT want 18" rims...i got 17's...18's for all show..I wanted show and go. grin grin grin


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