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Does this make sense? #357582 Dec 23, 5:56pm Dec 23, 5:56pm
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Does this make sense?
So the whole point of having a spoiler/bodykit/front air diffuser, technically, is to put downforce on the car so you have traction. But isn't that just like weighing down the car? Like we lighten our cars so they go faster, but then we put front lips and wings on which creates downforce, which is like having extra weight in the car. Unless my logic is flawed somehow. Comments?


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Re: Does this make sense? [Re: XxMerlinxX] #357583 Dec 23, 5:59pm Dec 23, 5:59pm
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that's correct, but if you had no downforce...tires come up...no traction
you want as much power as you can on the ground
and spoilers help from the rear from flyin around.


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Re: Does this make sense? [Re: VSGTS14] #357584 Dec 23, 6:19pm Dec 23, 6:19pm
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but arent spoilers useless on our cars, since it is a fwd, not a rwd confused confused


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Re: Does this make sense? [Re: Maka] #357585 Dec 23, 6:44pm Dec 23, 6:44pm
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Originally Posted by Maka
but arent spoilers useless on our cars, since it is a fwd, not a rwd confused confused


No, they serve a purpose. I've gone around a turn, uphill, and had my back end slide out. That wouldn't have happened if I had had a spoiler (I've got the stock one, but it's good for nothin').


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Re: Does this make sense? [Re: XxMerlinxX] #357586 Dec 23, 6:50pm Dec 23, 6:50pm
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Originally Posted by XxMerlinxX
So the whole point of having a spoiler/bodykit/front air diffuser, technically, is to put downforce on the car so you have traction. But isn't that just like weighing down the car? Like we lighten our cars so they go faster, but then we put front lips and wings on which creates downforce, which is like having extra weight in the car. Unless my logic is flawed somehow. Comments?


No, its not the same. More real weight (like say, cargo in the trunk) has to be accelerated by the engine power output. Downforce from a spoiler only increases traction. Of course, you have to be going pretty fast to get any useful downforce.


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Re: Does this make sense? [Re: XxMerlinxX] #357587 Dec 23, 6:50pm Dec 23, 6:50pm
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Aren't some kits/spoilers are lighter than stock though?

So you'd actually be making the car lighter with those.


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Re: Does this make sense? [Re: Chaz] #357588 Dec 23, 7:07pm Dec 23, 7:07pm
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^^ thats what i thought, my kit seemed like it was lighter then the stock bumpers.


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Re: Does this make sense? [Re: Chaz] #357589 Dec 23, 7:07pm Dec 23, 7:07pm
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what i think you have to realize is that when you have a wing down force doesn't apply immediately. since your car is light weight then your acceleration will be better, then when you reach a certain speed (eg. 80 mph) your wing takes effect and creates downforce from the air displacement


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Re: Does this make sense? [Re: Kim] #357590 Dec 23, 7:41pm Dec 23, 7:41pm
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arent certain paint color like super black heavier than liquid silver? im just wondering, if paint has different weight to it.


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Re: Does this make sense? [Re: Zero] #357591 Dec 23, 8:41pm Dec 23, 8:41pm
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LOL, paint does not have different weight


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Re: Does this make sense? [Re: VSGTS14] #357592 Dec 23, 9:57pm Dec 23, 9:57pm
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Originally Posted by VSGTS14
LOL, paint does not have different weight


Actually it does, but it's not a significant ammount that having another color would make you any faster than another car with a different color.


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Re: Does this make sense? [Re: XxMerlinxX] #357593 Dec 23, 11:54pm Dec 23, 11:54pm
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Re: Does this make sense? [Re: isaac] #357594 Dec 24, 12:14am Dec 24, 12:14am
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not only do different paints weight different, but some are stronger then others. Red paint being the most brittle and with being the strongest


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Re: Does this make sense? [Re: JBing] #357595 Dec 24, 5:15am Dec 24, 5:15am
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This is fucking ridiculous.


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Re: Does this make sense? [Re: jyboygenius] #357596 Dec 24, 5:26pm Dec 24, 5:26pm
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whats scary is i was thinking this same exhact thought the other day, i just figured that the downforce keeps the car down and weight affects accel and decel


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