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Speed4TheNeed Dec 15, 3:43am - #351494 

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custom-shortened b&m shortshifter

so what do you guys think? i got my b&m shortshifter cut even shorter recently..it came out just a little too short i think but i still like it a lot better than just the regular b&m.

i only cut the rod, not the throw portion. the throw portion was already decreased enough over stock..i just wanted the rod to be shortened because i still thought the b&m sat too high.

opinions, yay or nay.

and i obviously need a new boot...working on that. haha the stock boot looks horrible being all stuffed up like that. any suggestions on what would be a better boot or tips to make the stock boot fit better would also appreciated thumbsup
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Speed4TheNeed Dec 15, 3:45am - #351495 

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Speed4TheNeed Dec 15, 3:47am - #351496 

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and 3 (last one).

all the mess there is the tools jeff (celimangts) and i used to take out the shifter before being cut, sorry spineyes
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cycocelica Dec 15, 3:49am - #351497 

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damn caleb! how the hell do you grab it...i does look good though thumbsup
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celicaTRDgts Dec 15, 3:51am - #351498 

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omg...that is seriously the shortest shifter i have seen...wow


how does it feel?

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Speed4TheNeed Dec 15, 3:58am - #351499 

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jeff (cycocelica) -- it grabs just fine. thumbsup even with the brake down there isn't a prob with my thumb getting in the way..but i don't really grab it straight on either. i grab it from the side (thumb on top).

celicatrdgts -- it feels pretty good. but i havn't driven with it yet. as a lot of you already know i blew my engine while back...and the new engine doesn't get installed until next week sometime. so i'll know more about it at that time obviously...but sitting still the shifting seems to work just fine...reverse is kinda a hoe to get to right now but the shifter is still pretty stiff from working on it (every time you work with the shifter--even the stock one--it gets stiff and you have to work it back in...takes about a week or two or driving usually).
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celicaTRDgts Dec 15, 4:17am - #351500 

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wow i seriously cant get over how short that is hahah...

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BigTony Dec 15, 4:19am - #351501 

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that's crazy spineyes

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eric_h Dec 15, 4:22am - #351502 

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damn, over compensating for something haha

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VoodooGTS Dec 15, 4:53am - #351503 

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wow thats really short.

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GT2111 Dec 15, 5:01am - #351504 
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HOLY SHIT BATMAN! thats short... BUT AWSOME!.. I'd have to say... that is awsome..
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Virgilson Dec 15, 5:35am - #351505 

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Originally Posted by VoodooGTS
wow thats really short.


really shorty!

just fix the shift boot and you'll be fine.
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roscoe562 Dec 15, 7:23am - #351506 

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thats hella short but looks cool
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stefanoc Dec 15, 7:42am - #351507 

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caleb, let me the be the first to tell you that things short as hell spineyes

dude, i mean thats not even reaching the middle of the ashtray, thats a little toooooo shooort unlike the words. i mean its really gonna be easy to grind gears now i think and hit the gates. so you thought b&m wasnt short enough? shit man, wuts next, the shifter below the booth? jk

congrats for ur engine, and good luck with it. just be cautious driving with that short of a shifter. plus you need some mods to make that thing look better.
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FastCelicaGT22 Dec 15, 8:41am - #351508 

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thats sick...i like it

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spaztikid Dec 15, 9:01am - #351509 
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looks like a midget kinda
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JBing Dec 15, 9:06am - #351510 

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thats not a shifter... its a knob

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BlkCelicaGT07 Dec 15, 9:18am - #351511 

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damn thats extremly short!!! i personally dont like it but to each his own.
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Speed4TheNeed Dec 15, 12:14pm - #351512 

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it's about an inch shorter than what i would have liked.

the total rod length is about 3-4 inches. the problem with that sparco knob is that it's pretty hollow--meaning that the top of the rod is actually only about 1/2" below the black sparco symbol...the knob kinda eats up most of the rod and i didn't take that into account which is why it came out shorter than i wanted.

i'm thinking about getting another knob to fix that though...like a 'straight knob' such as TRD...that way it'll 'push' the rod out another 1 or 2 inches to get it to where i want it to be thumbsup

with the new knob..it should be only about an inch or so lower than twm, which is what i was going for to begin with.
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Speed4TheNeed Dec 15, 12:26pm - #351513 

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Originally Posted by stefanoc
plus you need some mods to make that thing look better.


well i got a few things in the works...i've been having that i-designs widebody kit on order since february (finally should get it at the end of this month)..so that'll help the exterior a whole lot thumbsup

and i HAD the TRD ext. exhaust on order but i had to cancel due to the blown engine..which kinda sux but i am glad that my engine didn't blow when it was too late to back out...saved me from having to scrounge up another $400.

i also should be getting a cd player this christmas..so we'll see how it goes.





anyway, this is what i was talking about when the 'knob eats up the rod'. the rod actually ends where the red line crosses..just about 1/2" below the top of the knob. it's just the knob is practially all the way hollow so it makes it look shorter than it actually is. but anyway i'm looking for other knobs now to bring it up a little higher..just like an inch or two...no more than 2" though.

any suggestions would be appreciated for the new knob...and i still need to do something about that boot so feel free to add your $0.02 as well thumbsup
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JAYD Dec 15, 12:47pm - #351514 

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Veilside Dec 15, 12:55pm - #351515 
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it's unique i like it but i wouldn't do it myself grin

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simonw Dec 15, 1:05pm - #351516 
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Man you make my B&M look stock
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04silvergts Dec 15, 1:22pm - #351517 
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ragingpaseo Dec 15, 4:11pm - #351518 
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eek damn, that is too short...i don't know, it looks kind of weird. but if you like it, it's all you... thumbsup
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My Sixth Gear Dec 15, 4:34pm - #351519 
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no offense but i think it looks stupid, if you wanted a shorter stick you could have gotten the TWM its smaller than b&m

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Traviesa86 Dec 15, 4:40pm - #351520 

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so then what are you gonna do with the sparco?

you barely even used it...

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ragingpaseo Dec 15, 5:09pm - #351521 
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maybe sell it??? confused
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Traviesa86 Dec 15, 7:26pm - #351522 

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yea, I'LL sell it--since i'm the one that bought it for him, and he got maybe a month's use out of it

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RevMonster Dec 15, 7:30pm - #351523 

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Originally Posted by Traviesa86
yea, I'LL sell it--since i'm the one that bought it for him, and he got maybe a month's use out of it


rofl

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RevMonster Dec 15, 7:31pm - #351524 

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OMG... I just noticed...

You used a hammer to install the shifter?! rofl

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ragingpaseo Dec 15, 7:47pm - #351525 
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Originally Posted by Traviesa86
yea, I'LL sell it--since i'm the one that bought it for him, and he got maybe a month's use out of it

since you put it that way, then he should keep it regardless... smile
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bmw52786 Dec 15, 7:47pm - #351526 

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Originally Posted by RevMonster
Originally Posted by Traviesa86
yea, I'LL sell it--since i'm the one that bought it for him, and he got maybe a month's use out of it


rofl

Caleb is in the doghouse.


haha ya kristen doesnt sound to happy caleb! grin

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celimangts17 Dec 15, 8:22pm - #351527 

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Originally Posted by RevMonster
OMG... I just noticed...

You used a hammer to install the shifter?! rofl

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haha yea this one little rod that holds this plastic peice over the ball was a bitch to get out, took us like 45mins just to get that piece out alone. we tried everything, he took like 3 different hammers to it and used all kinds of tools to bang it out but the thing wouldnt budge. finally got it out though thumbsup

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VSGTS14 Dec 15, 10:25pm - #351528 

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Originally Posted by My Sixth Gear
no offense but i think it looks stupid, if you wanted a shorter stick you could have gotten the TWM its smaller than b&m


yea but a B&M has a shorter throw than the TWM

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Speed4TheNeed Dec 15, 11:07pm - #351529 

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^^ which is why i wanted to cut the b&m rather than buying a twm.

it did come out a little too short...i think it'd look better with a longer knob that doesn 'eat' the rod up so much though. we'll see..it's definately not in my immediate plans, but i'll have to address it at sometime
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Traviesa86 Dec 16, 1:02am - #351530 

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Originally Posted by bmw52786
Originally Posted by RevMonster
Originally Posted by Traviesa86
yea, I'LL sell it--since i'm the one that bought it for him, and he got maybe a month's use out of it


rofl

Caleb is in the doghouse.


haha ya kristen doesnt sound to happy caleb! grin


geeez...do you guys have to drag it out?? hahhaahha rofl rofl rofl

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RevMonster Dec 16, 2:15am - #351531 

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fight fight fight! rofl

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EuRoBoYGT Dec 16, 10:16am - #351532 

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damn caleb that's short but it looks cool thumbsup thumbsup

oh and i was also wondering about the hammer rofl rofl rofl rofl

i guess you got mad since it took you guys 45 mins to get the shifter out. i guess you had to beat the crap out of the shiter to get it out rofl rofl rofl

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Speed4TheNeed Dec 16, 11:12am - #351533 

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^^ lol kevin..well unless you got a better way to take the backpin off your gonna have to use a hammer spineyes

it's not like your banging on the shifter itself..but theres a pin that you need to hammer out (yes--it's in the instructions) and its TIGHT to say the least. it's not like you can push it out..even with a hammer it was pretty hard to move the pin through...and vice versa when your putting it back in.

you have to use a tap and place it on the pin..then hammer the tap..you don't bang the shifter thumbsup (although i can't honestly say that i didn't miss the tap a few times) spineyes
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Celica2k Dec 16, 7:17pm - #351534 

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yeah it's a little to short i think. wish the b&m came just a little shorter than it does.
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Rocketman Dec 16, 7:26pm - #351535 

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Man, that has got to be difficult to shift. The celica doesn't shift easy in the first place... wow. To short man. thumbsdown

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Speed4TheNeed Dec 17, 1:51am - #351536 

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^^ it's not bad to shift at all ..just when trying to get it into reverse. it also isnt broken in yet either..so i'll have to see if it's any easier to get into reverse or not once it loosens up.
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hephaestus Dec 17, 2:45am - #351537 
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I've been reading this since day one.
I also had to use a hammer like device for my SS. I was too lazy to go in my basement to get a hammer so I made the next logical step. Bang a heavy socket wrench on that member until it went in. What's the problem there? Hammer it in till it goes till full penetration. Am I missing something?
Anyways, that modified, shortened, cut down, shot peened and pruned weeping willow, is way too short - put simple. You obviously made a huge mistake and not HUGE because it's only a shifter that you can replace cheap.
I commend you for attempting a better shorter shifter than the previous person who made a muck out of things.
Good luck and scrap that one and try again.
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RookieGTS Dec 17, 2:46am - #351538 

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great work, but i personally dont like it. It looks unsafe and too short to shift. I dunno great work nonetheless bro! thumbsup
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Vlad Jan 7, 7:06pm - #351539 
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wat has shorter throw BM or TWN
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Drifter Jan 7, 7:16pm - #351540 
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Traviesa86 Jan 7, 7:56pm - #351541 

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Originally Posted by Vlad
wat has shorter throw BM or TWN


B&M has the shorter throw
TWN has the shorter rod

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xcivickillerx Jan 7, 8:19pm - #351542 

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damn dude that thing is rediculous
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SilvrGTS Jan 8, 5:35pm - #351543 

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to short

but looks cool thumbsup
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