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Lasherccl Dec 9, 7:55pm - #347347 

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how can i get 190-200 horsepower

so anybody know of a way to do this without a turbo? i am not talking at the crank i mean to the wheels.

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importcarbabe Dec 9, 7:58pm - #347348 

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Intake, Header, Exhaust, PFC, Clutch & flywheel should put you around that range.

"If you dont like Hair blowers why would you like Turbo's"

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AZZKIKR Dec 9, 7:59pm - #347349 

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you have a GTS???? Apexi PFC, stroke it, CAI, kazuma exhaust...something along those lines
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spaztikid Dec 9, 7:59pm - #347350 
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high comp pistons, valve train, pfc, Intake, 100 octane fuel.
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Illusive Dec 9, 10:44pm - #347351 
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pray.

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CelicaGTizzle Dec 9, 10:45pm - #347352 

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Originally Posted by Illusive
pray.


rofl rofl

My car is gunna be 10x faster than yours...haha... I'm gunna buy like 10
of those speedchips! I figure if 1 gets me 20hp then 10 will get me 200hp!
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c2gas Dec 9, 11:45pm - #347353 

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Well on the GTS is possible, but you will end up at the same price range as a turbo.
On the gt it would even cost more then f/i kits.
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qbanprepster21 Dec 10, 12:24am - #347354 
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Originally Posted by CelicaGTizzle
Originally Posted by Illusive
pray.


rofl rofl


thats the best answer!!! Ha Ha!

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spaztikid Dec 10, 2:26am - #347355 
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it would be easy with what i said...


TRD high comp pistons
rods
valves and springs
pfc

... you could rev till 9500 easily.
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kmlgts Dec 10, 2:32am - #347356 

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Originally Posted by qbanprepster21
Originally Posted by CelicaGTizzle
Originally Posted by Illusive
pray.


rofl rofl


thats the best answer!!! Ha Ha!


AGREE! rofl rofl
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iggy Dec 10, 2:33am - #347357 
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Lasherccl Dec 10, 2:35am - #347358 

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i wasnt talking about an additional 190-200 horsepower i was talking about overall horsepower

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tooekneee Dec 10, 2:43am - #347359 

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hombredelassrtas Dec 10, 3:25am - #347360 

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Originally Posted by importcarbabe
Intake, Header, Exhaust, PFC, Clutch & flywheel should put you around that range.


i think this is your best bet.

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Johnsgt Dec 10, 4:33am - #347361 
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Originally Posted by hombredelassrtas
Originally Posted by importcarbabe
Intake, Header, Exhaust, PFC, Clutch & flywheel should put you around that range.


i think this is your best bet.


That still wont put you there. You would need some cams or race fuel.
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Lasherccl Dec 10, 4:42am - #347362 

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well if tpr puts out cams next year it might be attainable.

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importcarbabe Dec 10, 5:16am - #347363 

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Originally Posted by hombredelassrtas

Originally Posted by importcarbabe

Intake, Header, Exhaust, PFC, Clutch & flywheel should put you around that range.


i think this is your best bet.


add a ported and polished cylinder head to that. you can also Add a AEM alternator Pulley to for shits n giggles.

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importcarbabe Dec 10, 5:20am - #347364 

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Originally Posted by spaztikid
it would be easy with what i said...


TRD high comp pistons
rods
valves and springs
pfc

... you could rev till 9500 easily.


That wont get any were close, and just cause you can rev to 9500rpm doesnt give you more power it just lets you stay in a better power curve than say 5000rpm. NO more horsepower is made cause you can rev higher.

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importcarbabe Dec 10, 5:24am - #347365 

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Lasherccl Dec 10, 5:44am - #347366 

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man talk about crappy aftermarket support, getting 30-40 horsepower on a honda is a breeze. oh well at least my car looks sleeker than most hondas.

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DoRkyCeLica Dec 10, 6:00am - #347367 
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importcarbabe Dec 10, 6:04am - #347368 

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Originally Posted by Johnsgt
Originally Posted by hombredelassrtas
Originally Posted by importcarbabe
Intake, Header, Exhaust, PFC, Clutch & flywheel should put you around that range.


i think this is your best bet.


That still wont put you there. You would need some cams or race fuel.
And if there were cams for the 7th gen celicas that would of been on my list to begin with. DUH

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importcarbabe Dec 10, 6:07am - #347369 

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If somebody else can come up with a more economical way better than my Idea's with out ripping apart the engine I am all ears. provided you didnt port & polish.

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Johnsgt Dec 10, 6:16am - #347370 
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There is no way as of yet, thats what people are saying. With what you stated you would be lucky for 180-185 whp on a real aggressive tune. Unless you use race gas or some better parts come out.
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silver Dec 10, 6:20am - #347371 
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A full build and a lot of octane.

Good luck.
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jonnyess Dec 10, 3:16pm - #347372 

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importcarbabe Dec 10, 3:23pm - #347373 

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Originally Posted by Johnsgt
There is no way as of yet, thats what people are saying. With what you stated you would be lucky for 180-185 whp on a real aggressive tune. Unless you use race gas or some better parts come out.
I hope you are refering thses number from a Celica GT cause other wise you are off quite a bit.

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Lasherccl Dec 10, 3:30pm - #347374 

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i was talking about a 2001 gts

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importcarbabe Dec 10, 3:40pm - #347375 

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^^^yeah thats what I thought, here I will go through the number with everybody.

155WHP stock
+Intake 8HP
+Header 1HP lol
+exhaust 12HP
+PFC 14HP
+Clutch/flywheel 12HP
+Pulley 1HP maybe lol

These numbers are estimated and are prolly on the low side so if you add that up you get
203WHP

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ct Dec 10, 4:07pm - #347376 

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lucky dyno'd with i/e/pfc at 184whp...not bad since he dyno'd baseline at 154.



but you really need cams and a good race header and not the oem replacement TRD or dc have.

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SLVCELI Dec 10, 5:41pm - #347377 
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Originally Posted by importcarbabe
^^^yeah thats what I thought, here I will go through the number with everybody.

155WHP stock
+Intake 8HP
+Header 1HP lol
+exhaust 12HP
+PFC 14HP
+Clutch/flywheel 12HP
+Pulley 1HP maybe lol

These numbers are estimated and are prolly on the low side so if you add that up you get
203WHP


The horsepower does not just add like that and your numbers are off anyways.

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Johnsgt Dec 10, 7:08pm - #347378 
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No i was talking about a gts trust me. I know what im talking about. Your numbers are way off and you cant just add them up, thats ricer math. When a mod by itself gives 5 hp and then another mod by itself gives 5 hp together they dont give 10 hp. Many members have dynoed their cars with i/e/h/pfc and they are all between 175 whp and 185 whp. I havent seen a dyno for more than that. The ones that are closer to the 185 whp side are ones that have had their car tuned extremely well. Like i said a million times already, with the current mods out there you cant get 200 whp, with the exception of using race gas allowing you to do a more aggressive tune. If another header comes out that makes significant more power that would put you closer, other than that a gts needs cams to get over that hump.
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xcivickillerx Dec 10, 8:59pm - #347379 

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Originally Posted by importcarbabe
^^^yeah thats what I thought, here I will go through the number with everybody.

155WHP stock
+Intake 8HP
+Header 1HP lol
+exhaust 12HP
+PFC 14HP
+Clutch/flywheel 12HP
+Pulley 1HP maybe lol

These numbers are estimated and are prolly on the low side so if you add that up you get
203WHP
WTF!? wtf 12 hp for exhaust? trust me none of those numbers are on the low side
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it should look more like this starting off with

155WHP stock
+Intake 6HP
+Header 1HP
+exhaust 2HP
+PFC 10HP
+Clutch/flywheel 0HP
+Pulley 1HP maybe

=175whp

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Lucky_317 Dec 10, 10:43pm - #347381 

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ok I have the mods you say should get you to 200 whp and believe me when I say we thought it would get us closer then it did. all we could do was gain a butt load of mid range power lol. peak power just doesnt wanna come easy.

I'd say to hit the 200 whp mark you'd need the following things... (this would be the minimum to even try)

1) Intake
2) exhaust
3) power fc
4) new springs/valves
5) up the compression to 13:1
6) new oil pump for safety
7) 100 octane and a nice aggressive tune.

you could stroke it but you'll mostly gain more torque I bet.

and driving on 91 octane may or may not be possible. if you do you'll have to run a much less aggressive tune and sacrifice a bit of hp.

closest I could get was 185 whp and 136 wtq. stock I dynoed 151 and 112.

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Easy_C Dec 11, 8:20am - #347382 
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lol it shouldnt be that hard!

this is what we have

TPR Intake - 7.5 whp
TPR exhaust - 10.5 whp

this is what we are aiming for
TPR header - 10-12whp

With proper fuel tuning...200 whp shouldn't a problem. However you will just have to wait and see.

Remember this is just bolt ons.

If your talking internals...its no problem at all!

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Rocketman Dec 11, 4:51pm - #347383 

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Originally Posted by Easy_C
lol it shouldnt be that hard!

this is what we have

TPR Intake - 7.5 whp
TPR exhaust - 10.5 whp

this is what we are aiming for
TPR header - 10-12whp

With proper fuel tuning...200 whp shouldn't a problem. However you will just have to wait and see.

Remember this is just bolt ons.

If your talking internals...its no problem at all!


See! This is what I like to see...some OPTIMISM! Honestly, I don't care if it can be done or not, but being totally pesimistic about it ain't gonna help. thumbsup
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GT2111 Dec 11, 8:53pm - #347384 
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Where the hell is Lucky when you need him! confused

Sorry importcarbabe... Don't mean to be a bastard but I have a gt and I even know your numbers are off... spineyes

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RaptorGTS Dec 11, 9:27pm - #347385 
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Originally Posted by AZZKIKR
you have a GTS???? Apexi PFC, stroke it, cai, kazuma exhaust...something along those lines

why not wait to do everything first then when you are happy with results you can stroke it grin grin rofl
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Lucky_317 Dec 11, 9:51pm - #347386 

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Originally Posted by Easy_C
lol it shouldnt be that hard!

this is what we have

TPR Intake - 7.5 whp
TPR exhaust - 10.5 whp

this is what we are aiming for
TPR header - 10-12whp

With proper fuel tuning...200 whp shouldn't a problem. However you will just have to wait and see.

Remember this is just bolt ons.

If your talking internals...its no problem at all!


still awaiting dynos of this smile already said I'd buy it if you hit those numbers so kick your shop in the butt again lol thumbsup

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ACE_GTS Dec 11, 10:25pm - #347387 

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nitrous is a waste to just get power.

i'd wait till TPR releases all their products, then mix and match what you like.

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Lasherccl Dec 12, 1:24am - #347389 

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how long are we actually gonna have to wait for them to release everything?

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Lucky_317 Dec 12, 1:46am - #347390 

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these things take time wink

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ragingpaseo Dec 12, 7:32am - #347391 
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easist way to get that 190hp, and of course, the most expensive way, blitz charger... rofl
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IxkissablexI Dec 12, 7:45am - #347392 

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dood im sayin.. i'd rather buy AEM or some other product other than tpr if its taking that long
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10celica10 Dec 12, 10:07am - #347393 
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hephaestus Dec 13, 4:02am - #347395 
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I believe the 2ZZ is capable of producing a streetable 260+ NA to the wheels. I have said this many times. I also believe and know for a fact from years ago that the 2ZZ is capable of producing 500 HP turboed without lift of course. It might not be streetable. I figure some of the left over parts from that, a bump in displacement and compression, and along with the other things whether minor or not will add up to that number and more. This all comes from TRD USA. They know everything about head flow, port and polish, cams, titanium engine parts, etc... They built the damn thing and wasn't good enough (turbo engine). It's possible if you have some money. Just for starters if I remember $8,000 for the titanium H beam connecting rods.
If you have the money you can push mor HP than most of the turbo kits for the Celica out there. Of course not on pump gas, mind you.
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Lucky_317 Dec 13, 6:14am - #347396 

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it's actually around $4k for the ti con rods. and you have it a bit backwards about the lift. the eliminated the middle lobe so that there was only lift. I also don't recall ever hearing that they made 260 whp. Also the 500 whp ultimate celica was actually done with a 3sgte I think.

got any links to where you found your info???

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