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racing tha Celica #342799 Dec 4, 3:12pm Dec 4, 3:12pm
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hey whats up...just wondering how high everybody races each gear when racing or if you just redline them?...yeah just bought my GTS about 2 months ago and ive noticed that the gears are really close together so sometimes ill be skipping gears, does anyone else here do that? Also i havnt hit lift yet so let me know how it feels...holla at cha boy...


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Re: racing tha Celica [Re: ahnjae] #342800 Dec 4, 3:20pm Dec 4, 3:20pm
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Well ideally, you push it to almost red-line in each gear. That way when you shift up to next gear, it remains in lift. Its called "landing lift." That's when a GTS performs like its supposed to ...


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Re: racing tha Celica [Re: ExNihilo] #342801 Dec 4, 5:14pm Dec 4, 5:14pm
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Skipping gears? Can we do that and not hurt any part of the car?


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Re: racing tha Celica [Re: Chelica815] #342802 Dec 4, 5:31pm Dec 4, 5:31pm
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Ok this is probablly a dumb question. I hear everyone talking about lift but what is it. Does it only happen with a GTS?

Re: racing tha Celica [Re: GlassCurtain] #342803 Dec 4, 5:33pm Dec 4, 5:33pm
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Also about skipping gears. I don't think it hurts it as long as the RPM is high enough for the gear to handle it. I do it all the time.

Re: racing tha Celica [Re: GlassCurtain] #342804 Dec 4, 5:39pm Dec 4, 5:39pm
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To experience lift for the first time in a manual car you just down shift 2 gears or so depending on how fast you are going then hit the gas. You will feel the power of lift right after 6000RPM. When you feel this get ready to shift and shift fast then hit it again. This is how to make the GTS fly. thumbsup

Re: racing tha Celica [Re: SeeULater] #342805 Dec 4, 5:44pm Dec 4, 5:44pm
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Can I do it with my GT?

Re: racing tha Celica [Re: GlassCurtain] #342806 Dec 4, 5:45pm Dec 4, 5:45pm
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gt = no lift frown

Re: racing tha Celica [Re: ryanbboredd] #342807 Dec 4, 6:04pm Dec 4, 6:04pm
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GT - Better low end torque.

Hmmm, I am going to try this gear skipping thing tomorrow. I usually shift thru ALL of the gears, lol. Freaking leg work.


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Re: racing tha Celica [Re: Chelica815] #342808 Dec 4, 6:15pm Dec 4, 6:15pm
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god I hope you don't shit through the gears. That'd just be nasty. grin

What if I soup up the engine can I then? Is sounds cool. I wanna experience it. Maybe i should just trade my GT in for a GTS.

Re: racing tha Celica [Re: GlassCurtain] #342809 Dec 4, 6:51pm Dec 4, 6:51pm
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No lift for my gt?
But it's good to hear that it has more low end grin


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i beat a dude on a bike going to work today...i revved on him and we lined up at the light and it was on....i hit lift once...thats how hardcore it was....
Re: racing tha Celica [Re: skym] #342810 Dec 4, 6:58pm Dec 4, 6:58pm
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^^^not a lot more...

anyways, skipping gear when upshift wont hurt anything in ur car.


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Re: racing tha Celica [Re: Elec-FuYu] #342811 Dec 4, 7:19pm Dec 4, 7:19pm
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yeah i skip gears all the time when im in the higher rpms and not trying to hit lift...well i guess im just so afraid to hit lift cause its a new car and i hear about lift bolts being weak but i think thats only for the 2000-2002?...but i havnt really got the chance to race it against anyone also...people rev at me all the time like civics but nahhhhhhhhh not worth my time...feel what im sayin!!!...hollaaaa


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Re: racing tha Celica [Re: ahnjae] #342812 Dec 4, 8:17pm Dec 4, 8:17pm
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yeah skippin gears wont do anything just let off the clutch a hair slower so it keeps up, i do it all the time in my 5 speed if i punch it to turn out infront of a car on a busy street, from 2nd to 4th


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Re: racing tha Celica [Re: eric_h] #342813 Dec 4, 8:21pm Dec 4, 8:21pm
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shit thru the gears...lol..you got me man..you got me...

Re: racing tha Celica [Re: tido] #342814 Dec 4, 8:33pm Dec 4, 8:33pm
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ill still say shift where the rpm will drop to the max hp, in a gts thats at 7600 rpm so your best bet is redline, and gt thats 6400 thats 300 before redline, so i nour highstrung engines your prettymuch just gonna wanna top it off, cars with more broad powerbands might be different...but what the fuck do i know thumbsup


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Re: racing tha Celica [Re: eric_h] #342815 Dec 4, 8:41pm Dec 4, 8:41pm
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Whats good about skipping a gear? Can someone explain in a professional but easy way?
Thanks!


Quote:
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i beat a dude on a bike going to work today...i revved on him and we lined up at the light and it was on....i hit lift once...thats how hardcore it was....
Re: racing tha Celica [Re: skym] #342816 Dec 4, 8:43pm Dec 4, 8:43pm
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whats good about skipping gears... say you pull on ato a street, speed limits 40. you run up second (in a gt) to 40 mph and you normally would cruise in 4th at that speed, skipping gears would be saying screw third ill just go right to 4th, that saves me the energy of shifting 2 times and i use the clutch less and get to be happy doing half the work thumbsup theres my take on it


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Re: racing tha Celica [Re: eric_h] #342817 Dec 4, 9:16pm Dec 4, 9:16pm
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haha, dude, I didnt even realize that I typed that, lol.


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Re: racing tha Celica [Re: Chelica815] #342818 Dec 4, 10:18pm Dec 4, 10:18pm
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Skipping gears when upshifting shoudn't hurt a thing.
Won't hurt when downshifting either, but MAKE SURE the gear you go to is within it's speed/RPM range (ie, don't shift to 2nd when you're going 90 MPH, or you'll screw your engine).

Lift is a joyous feeling, and you'll feel it most notably in 1st and 2nd gears (that's my experience anyway, it actually tosses my back in the seat with those gears smile )

And yeah, lift is only for a GTS.
If you're really racing (in the GTS), then shift right before fuel cutoff (a bit past 8,000 RPM) to get the maximum performance (and maximum strain on the engine).

Not sure on the lift bolts, I believe the '03-'05 models come with the better bolts, but they can still break (or wear out).

I've had my GTS ('04) for over 12,000 miles, hitting lift quite often, and I haven't had any lift bolt trouble (but I think they're easy to change, as long as they're not broken, so it's good to replace them now and again!)


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if you have a 2000 Celica rev the car till 8300 to land on lift in every gear, on the 2001 models you basicly cant land lift onless you have a 2000 ecu. correct me if im wrong

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it's the 2002 that has the lowered rev limiter. all other years the GTS has about 8450 RPM limiter

Re: racing tha Celica [Re: renfield90] #342821 Dec 5, 2:24pm Dec 5, 2:24pm
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i dont understand why they made the 2002 models with a lower rev limit? anyone know?...so correct me if im wrong..all other GTS rev limit is 8400 RPM and lift cuts in at 5000 RPM? ...holla


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Re: racing tha Celica [Re: ahnjae] #342822 Dec 5, 3:40pm Dec 5, 3:40pm
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noone knows why they put the limiter at 7800rpm, but this is my theory. they didnt want too many ppl come to the dealership with blown engines and trannies and messed up shift linkages, so they blocked the limiter to 7800rpm. then they realized a celica is meant to be reved cz you only get power after 6000rpm and its short to go til 7800rpm, then they switched it back. the knock sensor on the 2002 celica is also different from the other years.
i guess thats one reason they dont want any more celicas or sports cars anymore, cz its ending up costing them more.

ur lift bolts will wear out eventually even if you dont go on lift often, they were redesigned on 2002- celicas.

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Originally Posted by imp
^^^ Could you please stop saying "holla"?
holllllaaa


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