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skym Nov 30, 8:10pm - #339215 
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Grounding kits

Do they sell these at the dealers too?
And do they really give HP gains?
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celicadragon Nov 30, 8:19pm - #339216 

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they give about 8hp at the most but that was on a wrx so it could be anywhere from 1 to 8 hp for one these kits if you get a good one

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skym Nov 30, 8:22pm - #339217 
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is there a TRD grounding kit?
Or do I have to get the innovative whatever grounding kit?

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i beat a dude on a bike going to work today...i revved on him and we lined up at the light and it was on....i hit lift once...thats how hardcore it was....
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Chaz Nov 30, 8:23pm - #339218 
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Originally Posted by skym
is there a TRD grounding kit?
Or do I have to get the innovative whatever grounding kit?


TRD doesn't make one that I know of.

it's tuned innovation btw and you can get it on the teamcelica website.

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skym Nov 30, 8:24pm - #339219 
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Would the dealer be able to install this? Or any car shops?

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i beat a dude on a bike going to work today...i revved on him and we lined up at the light and it was on....i hit lift once...thats how hardcore it was....
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Chaz Nov 30, 8:36pm - #339220 
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Originally Posted by skym
Would the dealer be able to install this? Or any car shops?


yeah, I guess, but it's really easy and part of the reason to mod a car is to do it yourself thumbsup

besides they'll just overcharge you for it anyway.

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CelicaCrazy Nov 30, 8:37pm - #339221 
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Not to sure about this one guys, i don't think they give that much hosepower if any, Import Tuner just did a project Celica GTS and the ground kit gave no horsepower and only like 1-2 torque and that was with Direct Audio kit which is the same as what tuned innovations uses.
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skym Nov 30, 8:38pm - #339222 
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I wish there was a guide for the gt.
I saw the one at tuned innovation but i didn't like that one

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i beat a dude on a bike going to work today...i revved on him and we lined up at the light and it was on....i hit lift once...thats how hardcore it was....
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Chaz Nov 30, 8:47pm - #339223 
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Originally Posted by CelicaCrazy

Not to sure about this one guys, i don't think they give that much hosepower if any, Import Tuner just did a project Celica GTS and the ground kit gave no horsepower and only like 1-2 torque and that was with Direct Audio kit which is the same as what tuned innovations uses.


it's not really for power gains, it's for keeping an audio system from sucking the life out of your car.

at least on our cars

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celicadragon Nov 30, 8:47pm - #339224 

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trust me the celica could use that torque so i would still get it

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stefanoc Nov 30, 8:52pm - #339225 

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lol, the kit wont give any wtq, nor whp. if it does, then its something REAL minor that you wont even feel. how would you expect a 20$ wiring mod give you 8hp when the best Intake out there does barely give you that much power?
the main purpose of a grounding kit is for electronics, taking ground off the body. this will help ur audio, illumination, maybe even start and idle. you know when you open two windows at a time you feel the dome light getting weaker? grounding kit will probably fix that and stuffs like that.
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i think import tuner did a dyno of a gts with inatke, exhuast and grounding kit (int's on the general discussions somewhwere). the grounding kit didn't make any power and only freed up .8lbs of tq. IT'S DEFINATELY NOT WORTH IT!

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yoru such a clown, i wish you lived in nyc, i would love to just give you the beating that youve probably never gotten in your life.
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celicadragon Nov 30, 8:56pm - #339227 

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2 lbs torque will add up later on with the magnifying effect so if you got it for the kit get it it definately makes the car better which is always good

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Chelica815 Nov 30, 9:08pm - #339228 
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It does not really matter if it gives out more power. It is something cheap and pretty cool to have. I wasted $30 bucks on useless crap before.

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celicadragon Nov 30, 9:09pm - #339229 

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exactly

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dansgts Nov 30, 9:50pm - #339230 

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anyone ever put one of these on a 4th gen gts?
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this thread is teh funny

Originally posted by SKOOF:
yoru such a clown, i wish you lived in nyc, i would love to just give you the beating that youve probably never gotten in your life.
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CelicaCrazy Nov 30, 10:11pm - #339232 
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Yeh it def. doesn't give any power gains, but true it is good for cars if you have a audio system and stuff like that in your car.
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skym Nov 30, 11:50pm - #339233 
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whew~ almost bought the thing.
I thought it gave you gains. Thanks people! rofl

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i beat a dude on a bike going to work today...i revved on him and we lined up at the light and it was on....i hit lift once...thats how hardcore it was....
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FastCelicaGT22 Dec 1, 1:57am - #339234 

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installing a grounding kit is something anybody can do, even if you dont know diddly about cars

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celicafourotwo Dec 1, 2:38am - #339235 

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yup yup..if you can read and follow instruction even looking at pictures..u're set to go..

Originally Posted by pesho01
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Whenever my car is at a full stop or even in park the RPM never sits on 0. what does this mean?
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renfield90 Dec 1, 7:32am - #339236 

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I'll be getting one soon, to improve idle and the electrical system. I should probably clean my battery poles too...with the car on and my headlights on I pulled both windows up, and there was a visible dimming of my headlights. I definitely could use it.

I'm assuming that the instructions for the Tuned Innovations kit is very similar for a GT, correct? And it also doesn't say anything about removing the stock grounding wire; do you need to do this, and how?
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celicadragon Dec 1, 8:57pm - #339237 

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i have heard certain kits do give hp gains espicially modified cars

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SeeULater Dec 1, 11:23pm - #339238 
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What about the Apexi Super Ground Kit. Does this kit do anything?? I was just looking at it and it doesn't seem to bad. Also how much is this kit going for?
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celicafourotwo Dec 2, 2:53am - #339239 

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u can make them urself for under 20bucks...

Originally Posted by pesho01
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Whenever my car is at a full stop or even in park the RPM never sits on 0. what does this mean?
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robare99 Dec 3, 8:16pm - #339240 

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I removed my stock grounding path since it becomes redundant with the groundwire kit. Others have left theirs in place. It's pretty easy to install by yourself.
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celicadragon Dec 3, 8:52pm - #339241 

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just get it and let us know

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barefoott4 Dec 3, 9:11pm - #339242 
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Guys, you can't seriously think a grounding kit is a performance mod?? eek spineyes It's to keep your audio system sounding pristine, making sure all sockets are grounded, no signal have interference. Do you know what it means to 'get grounded'? When you pump gas, they sometimes have signs to touch to get you grounded before you retouch the handle so that it doesn't cause a spark and ignite the gas. This won't give any horsepower, torque, whatever. The only way it might give a MINISCULE amount would be if it allowed the battery to put out a little more power or something...
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celicatuner Dec 3, 11:06pm - #339243 
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so grounding kits help with electrical function in your car? so then would a grounding kit be a good mod to do in conjunction with a larger alternator pully so they loss in power from the alternator would be compensated for by better wiring?
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renfield90 Dec 4, 10:07am - #339244 

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Originally Posted by robare99
I removed my stock grounding path since it becomes redundant with the groundwire kit. Others have left theirs in place. It's pretty easy to install by yourself.


Thanks, I'll probably just leave it in.

Originally Posted by barefoott4
Guys, you can't seriously think a grounding kit is a performance mod?? eek spineyes It's to keep your audio system sounding pristine, making sure all sockets are grounded, no signal have interference. Do you know what it means to 'get grounded'? When you pump gas, they sometimes have signs to touch to get you grounded before you retouch the handle so that it doesn't cause a spark and ignite the gas. This won't give any horsepower, torque, whatever. The only way it might give a MINISCULE amount would be if it allowed the battery to put out a little more power or something...


Yes, the primary reason for doing this mod is the improvement of the electrical system - better audio, brighter lights, etc. However, realize that the electricity for this is all produced by the engine via the alternator. A poorly functioning electrical system will have more parasitic loss as more of the engine's power is diverted to the alternator. A healthy electrical system can do the opposite - help the alternator work efficiently, and minimize the amount of work your engine needs to do. I should also mention that turning on my headlights causes a noticeable drop in warm idle (about 100-150 RPMs), so if I can reduce that drop then that's less HP needed to power my headlights. Dynos have shown that it adds a negligible amount of torque to the car (maybe 0.5 ft-lbs). Performance wise it might be comparable to to removing the butterfly valve - there's a slight performance difference, but that's not the main reason people do that mod.
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04silvergts Dec 4, 9:35pm - #339245 
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I have heard that it improves throttle response rolleyes
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celicadragon Dec 4, 9:37pm - #339246 

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it does they are not that expensive just get one

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