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Grounding kits #339215 Nov 30, 12:10pm Nov 30, 12:10pm
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Grounding kits
Do they sell these at the dealers too?
And do they really give HP gains?

Re: Grounding kits [Re: skym] #339216 Nov 30, 12:19pm Nov 30, 12:19pm
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they give about 8hp at the most but that was on a wrx so it could be anywhere from 1 to 8 hp for one these kits if you get a good one


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Re: Grounding kits [Re: celicadragon] #339217 Nov 30, 12:22pm Nov 30, 12:22pm
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is there a TRD grounding kit?
Or do I have to get the innovative whatever grounding kit?


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Originally posted by tido:
i beat a dude on a bike going to work today...i revved on him and we lined up at the light and it was on....i hit lift once...thats how hardcore it was....
Re: Grounding kits [Re: skym] #339218 Nov 30, 12:23pm Nov 30, 12:23pm
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Originally Posted by skym
is there a TRD grounding kit?
Or do I have to get the innovative whatever grounding kit?


TRD doesn't make one that I know of.

it's tuned innovation btw and you can get it on the teamcelica website.


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Re: Grounding kits [Re: Chaz] #339219 Nov 30, 12:24pm Nov 30, 12:24pm
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Would the dealer be able to install this? Or any car shops?


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Originally posted by tido:
i beat a dude on a bike going to work today...i revved on him and we lined up at the light and it was on....i hit lift once...thats how hardcore it was....
Re: Grounding kits [Re: skym] #339220 Nov 30, 12:36pm Nov 30, 12:36pm
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Originally Posted by skym
Would the dealer be able to install this? Or any car shops?


yeah, I guess, but it's really easy and part of the reason to mod a car is to do it yourself thumbsup

besides they'll just overcharge you for it anyway.


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Re: Grounding kits [Re: skym] #339221 Nov 30, 12:37pm Nov 30, 12:37pm
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Not to sure about this one guys, i don't think they give that much hosepower if any, Import Tuner just did a project Celica GTS and the ground kit gave no horsepower and only like 1-2 torque and that was with Direct Audio kit which is the same as what tuned innovations uses.

Re: Grounding kits [Re: Chaz] #339222 Nov 30, 12:38pm Nov 30, 12:38pm
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I wish there was a guide for the gt.
I saw the one at tuned innovation but i didn't like that one


Quote:
Originally posted by tido:
i beat a dude on a bike going to work today...i revved on him and we lined up at the light and it was on....i hit lift once...thats how hardcore it was....
Re: Grounding kits [Re: CelicaCrazy] #339223 Nov 30, 12:47pm Nov 30, 12:47pm
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Originally Posted by CelicaCrazy

Not to sure about this one guys, i don't think they give that much hosepower if any, Import Tuner just did a project Celica GTS and the ground kit gave no horsepower and only like 1-2 torque and that was with Direct Audio kit which is the same as what tuned innovations uses.


it's not really for power gains, it's for keeping an audio system from sucking the life out of your car.

at least on our cars


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Re: Grounding kits [Re: skym] #339224 Nov 30, 12:47pm Nov 30, 12:47pm
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trust me the celica could use that torque so i would still get it


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Re: Grounding kits [Re: celicadragon] #339225 Nov 30, 12:52pm Nov 30, 12:52pm
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lol, the kit wont give any wtq, nor whp. if it does, then its something REAL minor that you wont even feel. how would you expect a 20$ wiring mod give you 8hp when the best Intake out there does barely give you that much power?
the main purpose of a grounding kit is for electronics, taking ground off the body. this will help ur audio, illumination, maybe even start and idle. you know when you open two windows at a time you feel the dome light getting weaker? grounding kit will probably fix that and stuffs like that.

Re: Grounding kits [Re: stefanoc] #339226 Nov 30, 12:55pm Nov 30, 12:55pm
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i think import tuner did a dyno of a gts with inatke, exhuast and grounding kit (int's on the general discussions somewhwere). the grounding kit didn't make any power and only freed up .8lbs of tq. IT'S DEFINATELY NOT WORTH IT!


Originally posted by SKOOF:
yoru such a clown, i wish you lived in nyc, i would love to just give you the beating that youve probably never gotten in your life.
Re: Grounding kits [Re: stefanoc] #339227 Nov 30, 12:56pm Nov 30, 12:56pm
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2 lbs torque will add up later on with the magnifying effect so if you got it for the kit get it it definately makes the car better which is always good


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Re: Grounding kits [Re: celicadragon] #339228 Nov 30, 1:08pm Nov 30, 1:08pm
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It does not really matter if it gives out more power. It is something cheap and pretty cool to have. I wasted $30 bucks on useless crap before.


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Re: Grounding kits [Re: Chelica815] #339229 Nov 30, 1:09pm Nov 30, 1:09pm
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exactly


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Re: Grounding kits [Re: celicadragon] #339230 Nov 30, 1:50pm Nov 30, 1:50pm
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anyone ever put one of these on a 4th gen gts?

Re: Grounding kits [Re: dansgts] #339231 Nov 30, 2:00pm Nov 30, 2:00pm
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this thread is teh funny


Originally posted by SKOOF:
yoru such a clown, i wish you lived in nyc, i would love to just give you the beating that youve probably never gotten in your life.
Re: Grounding kits [Re: ct] #339232 Nov 30, 2:11pm Nov 30, 2:11pm
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Yeh it def. doesn't give any power gains, but true it is good for cars if you have a audio system and stuff like that in your car.

Re: Grounding kits [Re: CelicaCrazy] #339233 Nov 30, 3:50pm Nov 30, 3:50pm
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whew~ almost bought the thing.
I thought it gave you gains. Thanks people! rofl


Quote:
Originally posted by tido:
i beat a dude on a bike going to work today...i revved on him and we lined up at the light and it was on....i hit lift once...thats how hardcore it was....
Re: Grounding kits [Re: skym] #339234 Nov 30, 5:57pm Nov 30, 5:57pm
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installing a grounding kit is something anybody can do, even if you dont know diddly about cars


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Re: Grounding kits [Re: FastCelicaGT22] #339235 Nov 30, 6:38pm Nov 30, 6:38pm
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yup yup..if you can read and follow instruction even looking at pictures..u're set to go..


Originally Posted by pesho01
Question:
Whenever my car is at a full stop or even in park the RPM never sits on 0. what does this mean?
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I'll be getting one soon, to improve idle and the electrical system. I should probably clean my battery poles too...with the car on and my headlights on I pulled both windows up, and there was a visible dimming of my headlights. I definitely could use it.

I'm assuming that the instructions for the Tuned Innovations kit is very similar for a GT, correct? And it also doesn't say anything about removing the stock grounding wire; do you need to do this, and how?

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i have heard certain kits do give hp gains espicially modified cars


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Re: Grounding kits [Re: celicadragon] #339238 Dec 1, 3:23pm Dec 1, 3:23pm
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What about the Apexi Super Ground Kit. Does this kit do anything?? I was just looking at it and it doesn't seem to bad. Also how much is this kit going for?

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u can make them urself for under 20bucks...


Originally Posted by pesho01
Question:
Whenever my car is at a full stop or even in park the RPM never sits on 0. what does this mean?
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I removed my stock grounding path since it becomes redundant with the groundwire kit. Others have left theirs in place. It's pretty easy to install by yourself.

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just get it and let us know


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Guys, you can't seriously think a grounding kit is a performance mod?? eek spineyes It's to keep your audio system sounding pristine, making sure all sockets are grounded, no signal have interference. Do you know what it means to 'get grounded'? When you pump gas, they sometimes have signs to touch to get you grounded before you retouch the handle so that it doesn't cause a spark and ignite the gas. This won't give any horsepower, torque, whatever. The only way it might give a MINISCULE amount would be if it allowed the battery to put out a little more power or something...

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so grounding kits help with electrical function in your car? so then would a grounding kit be a good mod to do in conjunction with a larger alternator pully so they loss in power from the alternator would be compensated for by better wiring?

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Originally Posted by robare99
I removed my stock grounding path since it becomes redundant with the groundwire kit. Others have left theirs in place. It's pretty easy to install by yourself.


Thanks, I'll probably just leave it in.

Originally Posted by barefoott4
Guys, you can't seriously think a grounding kit is a performance mod?? eek spineyes It's to keep your audio system sounding pristine, making sure all sockets are grounded, no signal have interference. Do you know what it means to 'get grounded'? When you pump gas, they sometimes have signs to touch to get you grounded before you retouch the handle so that it doesn't cause a spark and ignite the gas. This won't give any horsepower, torque, whatever. The only way it might give a MINISCULE amount would be if it allowed the battery to put out a little more power or something...


Yes, the primary reason for doing this mod is the improvement of the electrical system - better audio, brighter lights, etc. However, realize that the electricity for this is all produced by the engine via the alternator. A poorly functioning electrical system will have more parasitic loss as more of the engine's power is diverted to the alternator. A healthy electrical system can do the opposite - help the alternator work efficiently, and minimize the amount of work your engine needs to do. I should also mention that turning on my headlights causes a noticeable drop in warm idle (about 100-150 RPMs), so if I can reduce that drop then that's less HP needed to power my headlights. Dynos have shown that it adds a negligible amount of torque to the car (maybe 0.5 ft-lbs). Performance wise it might be comparable to to removing the butterfly valve - there's a slight performance difference, but that's not the main reason people do that mod.

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I have heard that it improves throttle response rolleyes

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it does they are not that expensive just get one


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