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celicadragon Nov 29, 6:07pm - #338174 

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@n2o w/ turbo@

for some reason i was under the impression that using n20 with a turbo helped spooling and killed turbo lag but i was reading a magazine selling nitrous and some of the kits had a notice on them not for use with turbo why is that?
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Polykarb Nov 29, 6:44pm - #338175 

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probably because the nitrous will make the engine run hotter, and the turbo will probably overheat at the nitrous's injection RPM.

But there always is a way around it. Engine tuning is key.


I don't have Turbo or Nitrous, just using common sense in this post. confused

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celicadragon Nov 29, 7:48pm - #338176 

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i know that too but what about the myth of spooling and killing turbo lag?

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TurbocelicaGT Nov 29, 9:49pm - #338177 
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what??? wont the n20 make the engine run colder if shot through the Intake???
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celicadragon Nov 29, 10:00pm - #338178 

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i dont know now i am confused it must run hotter then colder at some point i dont know

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combatc87 Nov 29, 10:06pm - #338179 

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it's the problem of running it on an unmodded engine, i.e. no strength mods (pistons, rods, gaskets, etc...). most I4's run smaller turbos, thus they spool faster, and don't need the nitrous. tuning is a definate necessity, but would have to be perfected, otherwise you run the risk of blasting the hell out of your engine.

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celicadragon Nov 29, 10:09pm - #338180 

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hopefully the people i am having install mine know all this stuff at the custome shop

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QTRMLR_1 Nov 29, 11:33pm - #338181 

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Originally Posted by combatc87
it's the problem of running it on an unmodded engine, i.e. no strength mods (pistons, rods, gaskets, etc...). most I4's run smaller turbos, thus they spool faster, and don't need the nitrous. tuning is a definate necessity, but would have to be perfected, otherwise you run the risk of blasting the hell out of your engine.


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B17GSR Nov 30, 6:05am - #338182 
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for sure build the bottom end and fuel injectors. You can definatley run N2O with boost the problem is that celicas have the MAF or whatever. so anything less than direct port is gona change the way your comp reads the amout of air goin into the engine and therefore mis calculate the fuel it gives to burn. This and boost has a tendencay to kick your car over to the lean side of things or go rich and cross the limit of your injectors.

if your talking runing juice just to spool the snail get a RPM acitvated window switch. Apexi boost controllers are able to control boost based on RPM so in theory you can have it set up to spray on the holeshot or whenever you are below your full boost, and to avoid a detonation senario it shuts off when you start to build boost. no lag and (in theory) no extra damange to your engine.

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spaztikid Nov 30, 6:09am - #338183 
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it is stupid IMO...

the turbo's spool up so damn fast that the nitrous would have no purpose... and sinse you would have to build the engine anyways... why not skip the NAWWWWZZZ and just increase your boost so you have constant power...

its just a waste of money IMO... no point.
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B17GSR Nov 30, 6:14am - #338184 
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all you really need to do is get the perfect turbo. do all the calculations and get one that fits your cars Carbon FiberM and TUNE TUNE TUNE.
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celicadragon Nov 30, 2:18pm - #338185 

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but if i perfectly tune the turbo then add n20 on top that would give me a whole lot more power but is it safe with just a 50 shot and say the xs turbo for example

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spaztikid Nov 30, 4:45pm - #338186 
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why not just turn up the boost and have the power all the time...
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celicadragon Nov 30, 7:44pm - #338187 

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exactly

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B17GSR Nov 30, 11:40pm - #338188 
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if you are thinkning about doin that then you would be completely building your block. micropolished crank, forged pistons and rods, and a sleeved block with this you should have no problem throwing whatever at your engine, boost and spray your engine could hold up but everything else will prolly go to shit.
sometimes its not just just putting every performace part on you car just cause you can. use the parts that work together well.
If nitrous and boost is what you want then do it! i know a guy running 50 PSI and a 75 shot all the way. the reason he can do that is because he has it tuned perfectly and changes the settings based even on the temp and such. he has a laptop constantly making adjustments. its pretty sweet tasty
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Johnsgt Dec 1, 6:04am - #338189 
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With turbos becoming more and more advanced nowadays theres less and less lag. If you have a quick spooling turbo theres really no point to squeeze on top of it. That comes into question when ur running a huge turbo, that has huge lag. Which i doubt you will be running.
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badceli Dec 1, 7:12am - #338190 
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Damn! 50 PSI? That shows what a newb I am. I didn't even know you could boost that high. Plus a 75 shot? What kind of hp does he have? Must be insane.
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celicadragon Dec 1, 1:54pm - #338191 

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that hp gotta clear 300 easy but i will have the spray before the turbo so what if i dont bulid my block and run 6 psi and a 50 shot--or use that n tercooler n20 system that just sparays on the intercooler or radiator

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Johnsgt Dec 1, 7:41pm - #338192 
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Running 6 psi and a 50 shot on stock internals is just asking to blow ur engine. If your only running 6 psi, then theres no point for a 50 shot, ur probably running a small quick spooling turbo, there will be no lag. If you're looking at making like 500 whp and using a huge turbo, then okay, use n2o to spool the turbo quicker, if ur making that much power, ur engine and everything else better be fully built anyways.
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celicadragon Dec 1, 8:43pm - #338193 

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so what i got outta that is dont do them both on stock internals-could i use that n tercooler thing with a 6psi turbo on stock internals or is that still asking for trouble

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Johnsgt Dec 1, 8:52pm - #338194 
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Yeah thats fine that just cools the intercooler.
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celicadragon Dec 1, 8:54pm - #338195 

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cool

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B17GSR Dec 2, 3:17am - #338196 
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lol i guess he just blew his engine too, a selinoid stiuck open on a dyno run and fuct everything up. (by the way this is not in a celica) he ran a 10.9 1/4
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celicadragon Dec 2, 1:41pm - #338197 

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damn

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