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LilJones Nov 26, 6:09pm - #336058 

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Custom Short Throw!

Where I work at there are some machinest, so I took them my B&M Short Throw, asked em if they could cut off about an inch and half. Well they did, and it is short as shit!
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LilJones Nov 26, 6:09pm - #336059 

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LilJones Nov 26, 6:10pm - #336060 

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Pnoy Nov 26, 6:13pm - #336061 
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how's the stiffness going? that's really short are you comfortable with it?
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LilJones Nov 26, 6:53pm - #336062 

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Stiffness is perfect with new bushings that came with the shifter. As far as being comfortable with it, it is better then ever, I love being able to shift so quickly. I think if it got any shorter, it would be a little to much though.
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JBing Nov 26, 6:57pm - #336063 

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whats the point? just to make it shorter? cause cutting it wont make the throw any shorter

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badceli Nov 26, 7:36pm - #336064 
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I think it looks great that short. Good job. Wonder how hard it would be to make the shift boot shorter so it's not so folded up?
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Pnoy Nov 26, 7:39pm - #336065 
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Hehehe...The shorter you go the more stiff you're gonna feel. Oh well...good job on your SS. It looks good.
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LilJones Nov 26, 7:49pm - #336066 

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Cutting it does make the throw shorter. Come drive my car, and then a car with a orginal B&M short throw. You will notice the difference, a a lot shorter throw. When I first put the B&M in I didnt put the new bushing in, and it was loose. I put the bushings in when i got it shortned again and it is stiffer. Thought it was because of the bushings.
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the only way you can get a shorter throw is if you change the armature of the lever rofl Its basic physics and has been cover 1000000000000 billion times on this forum, just ask anyone who knows what they are talking about

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CeLlYgT04 Nov 26, 9:05pm - #336068 

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Originally Posted by JBing
the only way you can get a shorter throw is if you change the armature of the lever rofl Its basic physics and has been cover 1000000000000 billion times on this forum, just ask anyone who knows what they are talking about


It's obvious he did SOMETHING to make it that short bro...Take a look eek
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eric_h Nov 26, 9:45pm - #336069 

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it looks like my twm now

btw what did you have to do to get xm installed? i went and checked and it would be like 160 dollars in parts just to madapt it to my xm ready head unit confused
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Virgilson Nov 26, 9:56pm - #336070 

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looks great... i wish i had stick. frown
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dansgts Nov 26, 9:56pm - #336071 

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was it hard to shorten it like that? I was thinking about doing that on my 86 gts because no one makes a short shifter for it, but i was nervous about screwing it up.
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Originally Posted by Virgilson
looks great... i wish i had stick. frown


untill you get into the mountains... around here

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Rocketman Nov 26, 10:05pm - #336073 

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Originally Posted by JBing
the only way you can get a shorter throw is if you change the armature of the lever rofl Its basic physics and has been cover 1000000000000 billion times on this forum, just ask anyone who knows what they are talking about


Wrong. Think about it. If you had a shifter that was a 3 feet long, and one that was 4 inches long, which do you think you could shift faster? Which would you think wouldn't have to travel as far to shift? Do I need to draw a picture? Would that help? OK I WILL!
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dansgts Nov 26, 10:13pm - #336074 

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nice illistration, makes common sence visable to those less fortunate that don't have it. My only question is what is there to a short shifter other than it being shorter? I mean is it bent more towards the driver or is it exactly the same (except for hight)?
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LilJones Nov 26, 10:23pm - #336075 

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I took it to a professional machienest who done it in like 2 hours. It looks professional...
And as far as the shift not being shorter, as Rocketman explained, it is much shorter bro. Im not saying your stupid, Im just saying what I know. Shifting now is basically a flick of the wrist.

dansgts, nothings different, shifting and everything is the same just a shorter distance between gears, and ofcourse hight.
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LilJones Nov 26, 10:27pm - #336076 

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Oh yuh, the XM Radio, Thats just a regular XM reciever, and I got an XM FM Mogulater, cost about 50 bucks and plugs into the antenna part.

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dansgts Nov 26, 10:29pm - #336077 

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so just cutting down the stock shifter would be the same right? I'd rather not fuck with it before i know for sure.
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LilJones Nov 26, 10:35pm - #336078 

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Yuh thats exactly what it is. A shorter shifter than stock. Mines probably 4, 4 1/2 inches shorter than stock.
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dansgts Nov 26, 10:43pm - #336079 

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cool, thanks for the help, I'll have to shorten mine soon.
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Tru_gts Nov 26, 10:46pm - #336080 
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hombredelassrtas Nov 26, 11:49pm - #336081 

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i knwo this was kinda answered and probably in other forms, but might as well ask now. so if i have a shop chop 4" of my stock shifter, woudl it work? and woudl it work smoothly?

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celicafourotwo Nov 27, 1:24am - #336082 

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^^^i'm curious too..but you would need new bushing since stock is too loose..too much play..

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caleb is getting one of his friends to cut down the rod on his B&M shifter too...looks good really short like that thumbsup

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dansgts Nov 27, 1:31am - #336084 

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Originally Posted by celicafourotwo
^^^i'm curious too..but you would need new bushing since stock is too loose..too much play..

Not necessarily...
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Originally Posted by JBing
whats the point? just to make it shorter? cause cutting it wont make the throw any shorter

that is not the point, it will be a bittlelittle faster to shift any way, and it will feel faster and stiffer
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eric_h Nov 27, 3:33am - #336086 

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if you chop 4 inches off your stock shifter your a retard. it would be super stiff when shifting you would loosen the assembly. A real short shifter replaces the bar and makes the pivot point higher up and replaces the rubber bushings with aluminum ones that raise the assembly (twm at least from what i have). theres tons of old threads about this proving it would make it shorter and slightly decrease difference between gears on the top half and make it very stiff and hard to move but in the end its just rice and that picture above^^ we dont have frickin 3 foot long shifters going to 4 inch long ones its not gonna make that dramatic of a difference at all just chopping it.

Think of it as an uneven teeter totter with the pivot point closer to one end and imagine lifting the longer end by pushing on the shorter end, its gonna be harder to do unless you move the pivot point along with shortening it.


theres my take on this. im not dissing you for chopping an aftermarket one, just saying a stock one would just be not worth it IN MY OPINION.

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dansgts Nov 27, 3:39am - #336087 

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ok, than what would you say i do when there is no aftermarket short shifter for the 4th generation celica?
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hombredelassrtas Nov 27, 4:19am - #336088 

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alittle harsh but informative. i didnt say i was going to do it, i was just curious what it would do. That is the reason for a ? form. Thanks again for the info. goodluck dangts for finding something. hopefully someone can help out

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LilJones Nov 27, 4:22am - #336089 

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Well I really didnt chop my shifter lol. Where the threads are on the shifter it is like a .015 of an inch thicker then the rest of the shifter. So we put it on a laid and laid it down to make like a little shaft/rod type thing. Then we drilled a whole in the bottom portion of the shifter, a little smaller then the shaft. Froze the shaft with nitrogen and heated the bottom portion, put the frozen shaft in the hole and heated it back, so it is press fitted. Then welded it up, and laided it back down again.

As far as it being stiff, its perfect, I dont know what yall are talkin about it being stiff...Its kinda tough, but nothing bad. I like it alot, Hell it dont need to be loose with the gears right beside each other.
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sbocaj55 Nov 27, 4:32am - #336090 

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Originally Posted by Rocketman
Originally Posted by JBing
the only way you can get a shorter throw is if you change the armature of the lever rofl Its basic physics and has been cover 1000000000000 billion times on this forum, just ask anyone who knows what they are talking about


Wrong. Think about it. If you had a shifter that was a 3 feet long, and one that was 4 inches long, which do you think you could shift faster? Which would you think wouldn't have to travel as far to shift? Do I need to draw a picture? Would that help? OK I WILL!


HAHA nice rocketman...I was just opening up the paint program to draw it as soon as i read it...then i'm like well lemme check to make sure someone else didn't cover it and make me create a double post. Yeah it should be slightly harder to actually shift...but i'm sure it isn't much..and if you muscle through it you can shift shorter...faster...awesome mod thumbsup
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eric_h Nov 27, 5:19am - #336091 

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Originally Posted by dansgts
ok, than what would you say i do when there is no aftermarket short shifter for the 4th generation celica?


in your situation i would say cutting it may be the only accesable option. it will shorten it a bit and look better, but will take more muscle to shift. and if you can find anywhere that makes aftermarket bushings for it it would be worth it to stiffen the asselmbly up then it still isnt mushy when shifting

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^^^yah. shortening your stock rod is only one part. have some shop fabricate some bushings.

or just have a shop fabricate a short shifter kit for your 4th gen, Dan. thumbsup

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LilJones Nov 27, 3:11pm - #336093 

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Yuh any machine shop should be able to do it easily, and quickly. Probably wouldnt cost much at all either. Good luck bro!
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Originally Posted by eric_h
if you chop 4 inches off your stock shifter your a retard. it would be super stiff when shifting you would loosen the assembly. A real short shifter replaces the bar and makes the pivot point higher up and replaces the rubber bushings with aluminum ones that raise the assembly (twm at least from what i have). theres tons of old threads about this proving it would make it shorter and slightly decrease difference between gears on the top half and make it very stiff and hard to move but in the end its just rice and that picture above^^ we dont have frickin 3 foot long shifters going to 4 inch long ones its not gonna make that dramatic of a difference at all just chopping it.

Think of it as an uneven teeter totter with the pivot point closer to one end and imagine lifting the longer end by pushing on the shorter end, its gonna be harder to do unless you move the pivot point along with shortening it.


theres my take on this. im not dissing you for chopping an aftermarket one, just saying a stock one would just be not worth it IN MY OPINION.


Oh I totally agreed. Choping the stock one WOULD make the shifts shorter...however it would make it very hard to shift. Cuting an aftermarket one would make more sense where you are replacing all of the bushings.
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bmw52786 Nov 27, 6:29pm - #336095 

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Originally Posted by JBing
the only way you can get a shorter throw is if you change the armature of the lever rofl Its basic physics and has been cover 1000000000000 billion times on this forum, just ask anyone who knows what they are talking about


hahaha all i have to say is "basic physics"...

^^^(wouldnt that explain everything jbing just said to be wrong???)

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LilJones Nov 27, 7:26pm - #336096 

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Originally Posted by bmw52786
Originally Posted by JBing
the only way you can get a shorter throw is if you change the armature of the lever rofl Its basic physics and has been cover 1000000000000 billion times on this forum, just ask anyone who knows what they are talking about


hahaha all i have to say is "basic physics"...

^^^(wouldnt that explain everything jbing just said to be wrong???)


LOL!!!
Maybe he took the "BASIC" physics class grin grin
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bmw52786 Nov 27, 7:52pm - #336097 

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^^^ lollol ^^^ hope he doesnt have to take college physics like i am right now!

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let me explain. since the pivot point hasnt changed on the shifter that has been cut, the throw below the pivot hasnt changed meaning the gear doesnt engauge any faster un like a true short throw where the armature is lowered along with the shortening of the entire rod. heres a picture.

the first one is a stock shifter, the second one is a cut shifter and the third one is a true short throw shifter
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hombredelassrtas Nov 28, 3:27am - #336099 

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makes lots of sense. prettymuc if you chop the top, you are going to have a harder time moving hte shifter, less leverage but ur hand will technically not moving as far.

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silverbeast Nov 28, 3:35am - #336100 

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thats awesome thumbsup
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yeah but for the 4th gen celi here, my friend has a b&m short throw on his neon but hasnt goe new bushings yet. its shorter and stuff but its still ishy when shifting cause it wiggles around easier when shifting cause you have to use more leverage

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dansgts Nov 28, 11:10pm - #336102 

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I found out that the short shifter for the lancer and evo 8 works with the 4th gen with little modification, but would it come with the bushings, if not where would i get thoes?
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qbanprepster21 Nov 29, 3:16am - #336103 
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Originally Posted by Rocketman
Originally Posted by JBing
the only way you can get a shorter throw is if you change the armature of the lever rofl Its basic physics and has been cover 1000000000000 billion times on this forum, just ask anyone who knows what they are talking about


Wrong. Think about it. If you had a shifter that was a 3 feet long, and one that was 4 inches long, which do you think you could shift faster? Which would you think wouldn't have to travel as far to shift? Do I need to draw a picture? Would that help? OK I WILL!


no you're a dumbass, first off, dont start talking shit about people and what there saying until you know that the f**k your talkking about. The illustration that Jbing put is the right one, your jsut an idiot! You can shorten the top part of the shifter to an inch and it will be jsut the same as the stock shifter, why, because short throws dont jsut shorten the top part, the change the pivot point of the shifter. making it longer from the pivot to the bottom, so that it pops in quicker. Also, if you have seen the B&M, its a straight metal piece, rather then the curved piece of the stock one, do your fucking homework before you talk shit again!!
shortening the top part of the B&M will make it seem shorter, but it wont be shorter.

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That's a nice Custom Mod. Should've just cut 1" instead of 1 1/2" but it's still sweet. thumbsup
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Does B&M SS come with a brushing? Is it the blue round rings that come in the box?
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Hey, I have a SS. The throws are a tad shorter, but I can't shift, if I'm drag racing, into gears any faster than stock. If I could I think I would do some damage over time to my transmission. The throw is shorter, stiffer, more precise, and more mechanical (which I love). Think about it.
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Originally Posted by qbanprepster21
Originally Posted by Rocketman
Originally Posted by JBing
the only way you can get a shorter throw is if you change the armature of the lever rofl Its basic physics and has been cover 1000000000000 billion times on this forum, just ask anyone who knows what they are talking about


Wrong. Think about it. If you had a shifter that was a 3 feet long, and one that was 4 inches long, which do you think you could shift faster? Which would you think wouldn't have to travel as far to shift? Do I need to draw a picture? Would that help? OK I WILL!


no you're a dumbass, first off, dont start talking shit about people and what there saying until you know that the f**k your talkking about. The illustration that Jbing put is the right one, your jsut an idiot! You can shorten the top part of the shifter to an inch and it will be jsut the same as the stock shifter, why, because short throws dont jsut shorten the top part, the change the pivot point of the shifter. making it longer from the pivot to the bottom, so that it pops in quicker. Also, if you have seen the B&M, its a straight metal piece, rather then the curved piece of the stock one, do your fucking homework before you talk shit again!!
shortening the top part of the B&M will make it seem shorter, but it wont be shorter.



Oh really? Someone should paste my drawing and his together...if you think for one moment that your hand has to move as far with a chopped shifter you are retarded. Have you ever felt the difference yourself? No, I bet not. Of course Jbings drawing makes sense. However, you guys keep saying that it isn't faster when you just chop one down. That is bullshit. There is a clear difference in length of throw whether you like it or not.
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