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roxyracer
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roxyracer Nov 21, 6:03am - #331994 

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Anyone have a Supercharger? Horses Needed Help!

Does anyone have a supercharger on their GTS? I am dying for more horsepower on my 2004 GTS. Looking at the Blitz supercharger. Anyone have any info? Whats the best way to get maximum horses? Supercharger, right? Which one?

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iggy Nov 21, 6:13am - #331995 
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oh man you have a hot car, wants trade. deal j/k

Anyways I was told to get to Supercharge mode your are taking about all but 6-10K. cool

You have to change allot GT's seems to be an easy upgrade, but our GTS's are a bit more work. Let me know if you do it and which way you go and I may follow you and do the same. happywink

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roxyracer Nov 21, 7:01am - #331996 

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Originally Posted by iggy
oh man you have a hot car, wants trade. deal j/k

Anyways I was told to get to Supercharge mode your are taking about all but 6-10K. cool

You have to change allot GT's seems to be an easy upgrade, but our GTS's are a bit more work. Let me know if you do it and which way you go and I may follow you and do the same. happywink


Thanks, I think your car is very hot as well. I know it isn't cheap but I love the look of the Celica so much I would put the money into it instead of buying a faster car that's doen't have the looks. Why do you think it would be harder to do on our GTS? Because of it being so new? Let me know and I'll keep you posted. thumbsup

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Chaz Nov 21, 5:07pm - #331997 
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actually it's mainly the higher compression in the gts. Consider a turbo instead. Superchargers on celicas are really a waste of money.

C2Gas makes a turbo kit for the gts i think.

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drkramm Nov 21, 5:25pm - #331998 
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how aare they a waste of money ? and super/turbo are the same on high compresion cars they all jsut make more pressure infact supercharger are usally better cause there easyer on the engine less heat then a turbo

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roxyracer Nov 21, 5:39pm - #331999 

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Just want to make it clear I don't want a supercharger to win races. I want it so that it's more responsive off the line. The car has plenty power for me at higher RPM's I just want to feel it at the lower RPM's as well. Not looking to shave off seconds just want to feel more response when I start from nothing. Is this what I will get from a supercharger? or would the Turbo be better for this reason?

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combatc87 Nov 21, 6:12pm - #332000 

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turbo will have some lag (i.e. the turbo needs to spool up before it makes ful boost), however, c2's turbo reaches full boost (6-8 psi) at 3000 RPMs, and makes strong power at 2000 as well.

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drkramm Nov 21, 6:27pm - #332001 
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super charger is the way to go then creates boost all the time much easyer instal (don't have to tare everything aprt toget to header) and much easyer on the engine

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tido Nov 21, 6:39pm - #332002 

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i was wondering when you get the JDM console with the eclipse head unit, are you still able to use cd player and radio and all that stuff?? im thinking of getting that also but im not sure how it would work..if anybody can help me out on this that would be great!
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celimangts17 Nov 21, 6:50pm - #332003 

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Originally Posted by tido
i was wondering when you get the JDM console with the eclipse head unit, are you still able to use cd player and radio and all that stuff?? im thinking of getting that also but im not sure how it would work..if anybody can help me out on this that would be great!

how is this related to the topic at all confused

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roxyracer Nov 21, 7:17pm - #332004 

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Originally Posted by tido
i was wondering when you get the JDM console with the eclipse head unit, are you still able to use cd player and radio and all that stuff?? im thinking of getting that also but im not sure how it would work..if anybody can help me out on this that would be great!


The Eclipse unit I have has a CD/DVD/Radio/Nav unit/back-up cam/ Equalizer ect... It has everything you could ask for and more. So worth the money, I'm glad I did it everytime I drive my Celi.

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roxyracer Nov 21, 7:20pm - #332005 

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Originally Posted by drkramm
super charger is the way to go then creates boost all the time much easyer instal (don't have to tare everything aprt toget to header) and much easyer on the engine


Very cool then that's what I want, thanks for the info. So now I need to know who has the best one. Please post links if you know who and where.

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R3DLIN3GT Nov 21, 7:30pm - #332006 
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from your reasons and everything...i think your right in going to a supercharger

you want reliabilty and better response, so i say go with a credible company, blitz for one

http://www.overboost.com/obs/product.asp...e=Superchargers

there is a link to a good and reliable website and the blitz supercharger

good luck and have fun thumbsup
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Virgilson Nov 21, 7:52pm - #332007 

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damn that sound system set is sweet!
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BReakinDrifTs Nov 21, 10:55pm - #332008 
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If you wanted it to be "fast" should have gotten a manual transmission rolleyes
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roxyracer Nov 21, 11:21pm - #332009 

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Originally Posted by BReakinDrifTs
If you wanted it to be "fast" should have gotten a manual transmission rolleyes


WOW that's original rolleyes I'm not even going to bother and explain just going to say I'm not "trying to be fast" I just want to feel some power off the line. There is a diffrence. My car is plenty "fast" for me I just want more on the low end. ENOUGH SAID.

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BReakinDrifTs Nov 22, 3:43am - #332010 
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^^ Yeah, somebody with an auto tranny making a post about a turbo is soooo original. rolleyes Anyway, good luck finding the "low end" your looking for. rofl
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ragingpaseo Nov 22, 4:46pm - #332011 
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well, the problem is 4 cyl with little tq and auto tranny; hence, there isn't much down low to begin with. if you car is a 6 cyl, it would have been a different story. if you want power in lower rpm, SC is probably you best bet. no matter how fast the turbo can spool up, it's still slower than the instant SC pick up & go. some of the common problem with blitz SC is that not a lot of shops knows how to install it...
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crespo_h69 Nov 22, 5:20pm - #332012 
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Originally Posted by roxyracer
Originally Posted by tido
i was wondering when you get the JDM console with the eclipse head unit, are you still able to use cd player and radio and all that stuff?? im thinking of getting that also but im not sure how it would work..if anybody can help me out on this that would be great!


The Eclipse unit I have has a CD/DVD/Radio/Nav unit/back-up cam/ Equalizer ect... It has everything you could ask for and more. So worth the money, I'm glad I did it everytime I drive my Celi.


What is this Eclipse unit, how much is it? I get lost alot, lol and was wondering if all those options you talked about came with the unit straight out of the box or not. Have pics?
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roxyracer Nov 22, 5:38pm - #332013 

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Ok I just got of the phone with Blitz, there are looking into it to see if the SC will work on the 04 Celica. The question will be if it works with the DBW.

Unlike others said they are not PFC that is Appex not Blitz.

They will be getting back to me soon, in the meantime I am looking for the right shop to install it.

50 more HP sounds good to me thumbsup

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stefanoc Nov 22, 5:51pm - #332014 

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that sure is expensive, more than 1000$ per 10hp.
but sure ur gonna be unique. any future mods planned?
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renfield90 Nov 22, 6:40pm - #332015 

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just remember that boost = lower MPG, there's all sorts of other costs with that s/c besides buying and installing it...
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Johnsgt Nov 22, 6:51pm - #332016 
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Originally Posted by roxyracer
Ok I just got of the phone with Blitz, there are looking into it to see if the SC will work on the 04 Celica. The question will be if it works with the DBW.

Unlike others said they are not PFC that is Appex not Blitz.


Yes, we know apexi makes the pfc, we never said blitz made the pfc. However the blitz supercharger uses the pfc as their engine management. You can't just bolt it on using the stock ecu.
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Johnsgt Nov 22, 6:54pm - #332017 
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I suppose you can just get the blower by itself, and then try and get it to work with a piggy back unit, but that in itself is gonna be extremely hard to do. Who knows if a piggy back unit will even work.
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renfield90 Nov 22, 7:15pm - #332018 

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I believe the Greddy Emanage will work with our cars.
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Johnsgt Nov 22, 7:20pm - #332019 
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Yes, whether it will work on our cars and whether it will have enough parameters to control the blitz s/c are two entirely different questions
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RevMonster Nov 22, 7:22pm - #332020 

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Why did you make two of these posts? You could have got the answers on the other forum.

Anywho... unless they've invented their own engine mangement system, the Blitz unit cannot work with your car. The PFC doesn't work on the 03+, and also doesn't work with autos. spineyes

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QTRMLR_1 Nov 23, 6:25am - #332021 

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supercharger + e-manage + awesome tuner

I don't see why the e-manage can't be tuned to work with a supercharger. Just add the right amount of fuel to go with the F/I and cut back on the timing. It's built to handle turbos, and varying boost levels at that. it's simple as there is no boost control to mess with on the s/c.

One thing to note is that the Trial Supercharger from Japan comes with the vvti tuned on the PowerFC. The gains won't be as great as with the PowerFC (as always), but we have seen that the e-manage can be used on a GTS with a turbo, so why not a supercharger?

http://www.trial.co.jp/trial-usa/celica/zzt231sc.htm

http://www.blitz-na.com/Blitz_Comp_Celica.htm

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