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Evo or Turbo? #329161 Nov 17, 4:13pm Nov 17, 4:13pm
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Evo or Turbo?
Should I trade my car in and get a Lancer Evolution VIII or should I get a turbo. I have a 2004 manual GTS. I've had it for about 3 months and put 1023 miles on it. If I get an Evo, I wont have much money for mods though. What should I do?

Re: Evo or Turbo? [Re: KickScrew] #329162 Nov 17, 4:15pm Nov 17, 4:15pm
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wtf

May I ask how old you are and what job you have... and why you would trade a car in after three months?


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Re: Evo or Turbo? [Re: KickScrew] #329163 Nov 17, 4:16pm Nov 17, 4:16pm
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I would go trade it in for an Evo if budget won't be a problem. I dunno but for me I don't care much on mods if I have an Evo. It's already good just the way it is.

Re: Evo or Turbo? [Re: RevMonster] #329164 Nov 17, 4:17pm Nov 17, 4:17pm
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I'm 16. I survay land.($8 an hour) And I want more power.

Re: Evo or Turbo? [Re: KickScrew] #329165 Nov 17, 4:20pm Nov 17, 4:20pm
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lucky basterd.. at 16 i Had no car... lucky you... rolleyes

Re: Evo or Turbo? [Re: KickScrew] #329166 Nov 17, 4:20pm Nov 17, 4:20pm
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Originally Posted by KickScrew
I'm 16. I survay land.($8 an hour) And I want more power.


Soo... I take it your parents would be funding this venture? rolleyes


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Re: Evo or Turbo? [Re: RookieGTS] #329167 Nov 17, 4:21pm Nov 17, 4:21pm
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and you have the convienence to trade in your NEW 04 GTS to get a EVO 8!! come on!! now thats spoiled.. but hey must be nice to have wealthy parents...

Re: Evo or Turbo? [Re: RookieGTS] #329168 Nov 17, 4:22pm Nov 17, 4:22pm
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I'd go with the EVO. Turbo Celi isn't up to par with EVO. AWD > FWD


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Re: Evo or Turbo? [Re: RookieGTS] #329169 Nov 17, 4:23pm Nov 17, 4:23pm
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If i could i would get a EVO in a flash


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Re: Evo or Turbo? [Re: RookieGTS] #329170 Nov 17, 4:24pm Nov 17, 4:24pm
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I asked a question and all I get is insults and bring downs. idunno

Re: Evo or Turbo? [Re: KickScrew] #329171 Nov 17, 4:24pm Nov 17, 4:24pm
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Thank to the guys who answered my question. thumbsup

Re: Evo or Turbo? [Re: KickScrew] #329172 Nov 17, 4:28pm Nov 17, 4:28pm
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Tell your parents to trade in their Celica for an Evo.


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Re: Evo or Turbo? [Re: KickScrew] #329173 Nov 17, 4:28pm Nov 17, 4:28pm
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When you ask about trading in car with 3 months and 1000 miles on it, we all assumed you are a kid whose parents paid for it. Why? Because no adult who actually worked to support himself and pay for a car would do that. rolleyes


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Re: Evo or Turbo? [Re: RevMonster] #329174 Nov 17, 4:39pm Nov 17, 4:39pm
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Re: Evo or Turbo? [Re: RookieGTS] #329175 Nov 17, 4:53pm Nov 17, 4:53pm
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Re: Evo or Turbo? [Re: Peterkwon87] #329176 Nov 17, 5:19pm Nov 17, 5:19pm
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Turbo isn't a realistic option for the GTS.


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Re: Evo or Turbo? [Re: ExNihilo] #329177 Nov 17, 5:21pm Nov 17, 5:21pm
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confused C2 makes a nice turbo

Re: Evo or Turbo? [Re: Peterkwon87] #329178 Nov 17, 5:25pm Nov 17, 5:25pm
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If anything bash him for being fickle...not for being more fortunate than you are...I'll admit I got a little pissed when a girl in my class got a brand new '04 GTS and she doesn't even pay for her gas..never lifted a finger in her life...but oh well life isn't 'fair'...

oh and kickscrew i'd definitely go for the evo if you have the money...which i take it you and/or your family does. get yellow or black thumbsup It's a shame to lose the value buying new and selling so soon...whoever you sell it to gets a new car for a couple grand less than they should pay for it... Anyway good luck and just don't crash it! thumbsup

btw i hope i don't get bashed for supporting you just because i'm young too...

Re: Evo or Turbo? [Re: sbocaj55] #329179 Nov 17, 5:31pm Nov 17, 5:31pm
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Hey, I have no problems with people who are fortunate. If your parents want to buy you a car, that's fine with me. Everyone needs a car, if your parents can afford to buy you a nice one, that's none of my business. What bugs me is that he's gone from fortunate to just wasteful. He gets a $25k car and has it for three months... then gets bored and wants to waste another $15k of his parents money on an Evo. If he was paying for all this himself, that's fine. If it's worth $15k of your own money to trade a 3 month-old car, you're feeling the financial impact. Right now he doesn't realize any of the weight of these decisions, so hopefully some of these posts will get through to him.

I wouldn't be so bothered by this, except I knew kids like this in HS... and when they stopped getting a blank check from their parents, life was one big disapointment.


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Re: Evo or Turbo? [Re: RevMonster] #329180 Nov 17, 5:53pm Nov 17, 5:53pm
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Originally Posted by RevMonster
Hey, I have no problems with people who are fortunate. If your parents want to buy you a car, that's fine with me. Everyone needs a car, if your parents can afford to buy you a nice one, that's none of my business. What bugs me is that he's gone from fortunate to just wasteful. He gets a $25k car and has it for three months... then gets bored and wants to waste another $15k of his parents money on an Evo. If he was paying for all this himself, that's fine. If it's worth $15k of your own money to trade a 3 month-old car, you're feeling the financial impact. Right now he doesn't realize any of the weight of these decisions, so hopefully some of these posts will get through to him.

I wouldn't be so bothered by this, except I knew kids like this in HS... and when they stopped getting a blank check from their parents, life was one big disapointment.


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be happy with what you have...trade it if you can im sure you'll be happy with either car

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Re: Evo or Turbo? [Re: R3DLIN3GT] #329181 Nov 17, 6:00pm Nov 17, 6:00pm
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My parents diddent buy my car, I paid for it. They helped out a little but not nearly enought to say they bought it for me. I would plan to buy the Evo out of my own pocket as well.

Re: Evo or Turbo? [Re: KickScrew] #329182 Nov 17, 6:25pm Nov 17, 6:25pm
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you're not going to be able to afford an EVO


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Re: Evo or Turbo? [Re: VSGTS14] #329183 Nov 17, 6:37pm Nov 17, 6:37pm
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I have enough for it, its just a matter of buying that or spending it on a turbo kit.

Re: Evo or Turbo? [Re: KickScrew] #329184 Nov 17, 6:41pm Nov 17, 6:41pm
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8 dollars per hour x 40 hours = 320 dollars a week

Celica = 25k = 78 weeks

Evo = 35k - 20k trade-in = 15k

15k = 46 weeks

Sooo... if you worked full-time since you were 14, that would be the only way you could have saved enough for both your Celica and the Evo. That's assuming 40 hours a week, which is both illegal and impossible with school.


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Re: Evo or Turbo? [Re: RevMonster] #329185 Nov 17, 6:55pm Nov 17, 6:55pm
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Wow guys...give the kid a break...who are you guys to try and total out how much money he has in his bank account and say what he can and cannot afford. He came on here to ask a general question, and what he got was a bunch of bs saying "you can't afford an EVO" and crap like that. There are so many different scenerio's on how he could afford this car it's incredible, ie:inheritance, stuff along those lines...so who cares if he can afford the damn car or not, he's a big boy, he can make that decision on his own, or he'll learn the hard way and get into a car payment he actually can't afford. Either way just give an answer and be done...the thread doesn't say..."Who thinks I can afford an Evo, and do you think my parents bought my GTS"?

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i want to say get the evo and youll be boosting and making nice amounts of power with few bolt ons. but then again 16 year old with a 240+ hp car just screams disaster.


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Re: Evo or Turbo? [Re: Jared] #329187 Nov 17, 7:05pm Nov 17, 7:05pm
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why not just get an Enzo, you lucky bitch. Anyway, go for the evo but an STI would be sweeter.


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Re: Evo or Turbo? [Re: calidrifter] #329188 Nov 17, 8:11pm Nov 17, 8:11pm
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go for the evo thumbsup


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Re: Evo or Turbo? [Re: kmlgts] #329189 Nov 17, 8:19pm Nov 17, 8:19pm
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go for the saleen s7. its only liek 200 thousand something.

Re: Evo or Turbo? [Re: Jared] #329190 Nov 17, 8:31pm Nov 17, 8:31pm
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Originally Posted by Jared
Wow guys...give the kid a break...who are you guys to try and total out how much money he has in his bank account and say what he can and cannot afford. He came on here to ask a general question, and what he got was a bunch of bs saying "you can't afford an EVO" and crap like that. There are so many different scenerio's on how he could afford this car it's incredible, ie:inheritance, stuff along those lines...so who cares if he can afford the damn car or not, he's a big boy, he can make that decision on his own, or he'll learn the hard way and get into a car payment he actually can't afford. Either way just give an answer and be done...the thread doesn't say..."Who thinks I can afford an Evo, and do you think my parents bought my GTS"?


agreed. My one friend's grandfather owned some crazy amount of GE stock from i don't know...maybe the 30's or 40's. My friend is this guy's only grandson, and this guy only had one son himself (my friend's father)...and this stock was worth enough to put my friend through college and buy a new car...but his dad won't let him buy a brand new car. He was going to get an RX-8...

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Evo + Mod = voided warranty
I would suggest the STi


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Re: Evo or Turbo? [Re: GT4] #329192 Nov 18, 12:31am Nov 18, 12:31am
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Like RevMonster said, there is no way you had the money to pay for your celica unless you were living in cuba and "survaying" (spell check thumbsup) land. Also, this is assuming you don't pay taxes and your parents pay for everything of yours.


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Re: Evo or Turbo? [Re: PimpElantra] #329193 Nov 18, 12:39am Nov 18, 12:39am
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maybe his parents co-signed the loan with him.

If you can really afford it, go with the EVO or, like was suggested earlier, an STI. Just be careful enough to not take on more debt than you can handle. Its hard to get a good job when you're under 18 unless you work for family.

Re: Evo or Turbo? [Re: zynk] #329194 Nov 18, 12:59am Nov 18, 12:59am
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wow 3 months and only 1000 miles... I got my car July 9 and i have 6800 miles frown ...

(and I'm only 16)

Re: Evo or Turbo? [Re: 04silvergts] #329195 Nov 18, 1:07am Nov 18, 1:07am
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Originally Posted by 04silvergts
wow 3 months and only 1000 miles... I got my car July 9 and i have 6800 miles frown ...

(and I'm only 16)


Same as me. I have 24k in a little over a year. spineyes


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Re: Evo or Turbo? [Re: RevMonster] #329196 Nov 18, 1:11am Nov 18, 1:11am
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^ ouch

mom says shes gonna give me a "mileage allowance" (never happen)

along with the governor she thinks is on my car... rofl

Re: Evo or Turbo? [Re: 04silvergts] #329197 Nov 18, 1:26am Nov 18, 1:26am
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Id Get a 1995 MR-2 Turbo and mod the fuck out of it


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Re: Evo or Turbo? [Re: FastCelicaGT22] #329198 Nov 18, 2:14am Nov 18, 2:14am
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the monthly payments and the insurance for your age bracket, that's going to take a substantial amount of overtime just to have the car. not to mention maintenance, gas, and other expenses...


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Re: Evo or Turbo? [Re: KickScrew] #329199 Nov 18, 8:34am Nov 18, 8:34am
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Originally Posted by KickScrew
confused C2 makes a nice turbo


What's the HP boost of the C2?


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Re: Evo or Turbo? [Re: ExNihilo] #329200 Nov 18, 9:13am Nov 18, 9:13am
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Originally Posted by ExNihilo
Originally Posted by KickScrew
confused C2 makes a nice turbo


What's the HP boost of the C2?


I think it's around 80 whp, but it depends on what psi you run.


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Re: Evo or Turbo? [Re: Chaz] #329201 Nov 18, 9:59am Nov 18, 9:59am
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Originally Posted by Chaz
Originally Posted by ExNihilo
Originally Posted by KickScrew
confused C2 makes a nice turbo


What's the HP boost of the C2?


I think it's around 80 whp, but it depends on what psi you run.


OK, I'm not particularly knowledgable about turbos, but it was my understanding that a turbo is a difficult thing to do on a high compression engine like the 2ZZ, and the HP boost isn't typically worth the effort. What's the downside of soemthing like the C2? Reduced engine life?


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Re: Evo or Turbo? [Re: ExNihilo] #329202 Nov 18, 10:06am Nov 18, 10:06am
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I am only 18 and I have a GTS. Its a 2000 which I got for 15 in Feb. I am paying for that with my own money. My parents do insurance which helps a lot but I have to do good in college. Since I am going to college I have little money to spend but its enough to pay my GTS thumbsup I didn't have a car at 16(I got mine when I was 17) but hey if he can get it who cares how he goes about it. smile thumbsup

Re: Evo or Turbo? [Re: sbocaj55] #329203 Nov 18, 10:07am Nov 18, 10:07am
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you will end up crashing either...

you need driving experiece.

Re: Evo or Turbo? [Re: spaztikid] #329204 Nov 18, 11:13am Nov 18, 11:13am
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^^As well as some financial experience. Buddy, money is hard to come by. Working that 8 dollar job should say something. As a bartender, I make a shitload more than you, but i have college to worry about as well as saving up for other things too. My car was paid for by my parents, but I didn't have one until I was 17.


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Re: Evo or Turbo? [Re: jyboygenius] #329205 Nov 18, 1:10pm Nov 18, 1:10pm
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for your celica, they will give you around $19000-21000. the new evos are like $34000, but i would do a evo regardless. just watch the tranny, their 10yr 100000mile warranty doesn't cover it. mitsuibishi have crappy tanny as we all know...

Re: Evo or Turbo? [Re: ragingpaseo] #329206 Nov 18, 1:34pm Nov 18, 1:34pm
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I got a lot of money from inheritance and family members dying and leaving me some money. I dont make payments on cars either, I pay in full. Why do you guys care if I have the money or not, I diddent want financial advice, I wanted advice on cars.

Re: Evo or Turbo? [Re: KickScrew] #329207 Nov 18, 1:51pm Nov 18, 1:51pm
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If U can do it, then why not?

Re: Evo or Turbo? [Re: DSGB4LYF23] #329208 Nov 18, 2:03pm Nov 18, 2:03pm
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Thats what I'm asking advice for! What I should do! Did you even read the subject?

Re: Evo or Turbo? [Re: KickScrew] #329209 Nov 18, 2:10pm Nov 18, 2:10pm
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you're going to be paying like 700 a month for it or more
plus, with what spaztikid said, you will need to know how to drive a car much better than you probably can now..i was reading all about the STi and how the FIRST thing people say is learn how to drive it or forget it, it's not like any other car.
and i still don't believe you can afford it otherwise, you will be dumping more money out of the bank just to have it...
so would you rather have more money that you have to pay back...or use money you have to buy something that will be equally just as good.

i do not think it is a decision for US to make, this is yours...it's your money, your car, your life..why would we tell you what to do? both cars will be substantially different, it's either you like one or the other.


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Re: Evo or Turbo? [Re: VSGTS14] #329210 Nov 18, 2:19pm Nov 18, 2:19pm
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Originally Posted by VSGTS14
you're going to be paying like 700 a month for it or more
plus, with what spaztikid said, you will need to know how to drive a car much better than you probably can now..i was reading all about the STi and how the FIRST thing people say is learn how to drive it or forget it, it's not like any other car.
and i still don't believe you can afford it otherwise, you will be dumping more money out of the bank just to have it...
so would you rather have more money that you have to pay back...or use money you have to buy something that will be equally just as good.

i do not think it is a decision for US to make, this is yours...it's your money, your car, your life..why would we tell you what to do? both cars will be substantially different, it's either you like one or the other.


wtf

OK, he already said he's putting out cash and not making payments. And before anyone goes off judging that because a person is young, that he is therefore an inexperienced driver, and therefore shouldn't be driving something like, say, an Evo, remember you can screw up/have an accident/total a car at any age.

I'm still trying to understand the benefits of a turbo on a GTS; I had understood most were still "under development", and what is the downside of putting on a turbo. My bias would be to stick with the Celica, and turbo if possible - I'm not a big Evo fan.


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