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@nitrous in a GTS@ #328674 Nov 17, 8:13am Nov 17, 8:13am
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i have a gts 2002 and since income tax is coming soon and i cant get the Hood i want, i am going to get nitrous-(i am leaning towards zex nitrous) keep in mind i am a beginner with nitrous so i want a simple nitrous system i am thinking of putting it inbetween my back seats but the only doubt i hav about that is cops and whether or not that will cause some bad attenion and if its illegal in pa i dont know-if you could give me a few ideas on where to put it and what a good system is that would be great i think im gonna want to keep it at a 50 shot to be somewhat safe thanks in advance

Re: @nitrous in a GTS@ [Re: celicadragon] #328675 Nov 17, 8:48am Nov 17, 8:48am
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zex wet system thumbsup trunk thumbsup

Re: @nitrous in a GTS@ [Re: sickcelica696] #328676 Nov 17, 10:03am Nov 17, 10:03am
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how much is a zex wet system? approx. how much would a wet install cost because i know i could prolly install a dry system but wet is a lot different


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Re: @nitrous in a GTS@ [Re: celicadragon] #328677 Nov 17, 10:27am Nov 17, 10:27am
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what is the difference really between wet and dry as far as hp is concerned?


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Re: @nitrous in a GTS@ [Re: celicadragon] #328678 Nov 17, 10:32am Nov 17, 10:32am
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well I know for a fact in minnesota having nitrous is not illegal, cause I got caught driving DAS and they searched my car and the cop found the nitrouse hooked up in the trunk but didnt give me a ticket or anything for it. The only thing he asked about it was if I used it to try to get away from him, I would of but unfortuanley I had all the switches for it disconnected for it at that time, but the bottle was full and Open.


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Re: @nitrous in a GTS@ [Re: celicadragon] #328679 Nov 17, 10:33am Nov 17, 10:33am
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Rumor is that we can only do a wet system on are cars?

Re: @nitrous in a GTS@ [Re: ACE_GTS] #328680 Nov 17, 10:35am Nov 17, 10:35am
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wow i didnt know dry was not an option


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Re: @nitrous in a GTS@ [Re: celicadragon] #328681 Nov 17, 10:37am Nov 17, 10:37am
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^^^I think you can use dry if you are going the direct injection way.


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Re: @nitrous in a GTS@ [Re: importcarbabe] #328682 Nov 17, 10:43am Nov 17, 10:43am
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i was under the impression that dry was tapped into the CAI


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Re: @nitrous in a GTS@ [Re: celicadragon] #328683 Nov 17, 10:48am Nov 17, 10:48am
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^^^Shit its been a while since I have dealt with nitrous, I am getting my self confused maybe dry does go into the Intake i dont remember. oh well


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Re: @nitrous in a GTS@ [Re: importcarbabe] #328684 Nov 17, 10:52am Nov 17, 10:52am
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thats cool i watched this show called horsepower tv that mostly deals with mucle cars but they did a civic onec and installed a dry zex system into the CAI so thats why i thought dr goes there


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Re: @nitrous in a GTS@ [Re: celicadragon] #328685 Nov 17, 10:53am Nov 17, 10:53am
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Re: @nitrous in a GTS@ [Re: celicadragon] #328686 Nov 17, 10:54am Nov 17, 10:54am
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saw the same episode, jsut hooked into the Intake. also seen propane used int he same way on a desel

Re: @nitrous in a GTS@ [Re: celicadragon] #328687 Nov 17, 10:54am Nov 17, 10:54am
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^^^which ever one it is I would recomend not getting direct Injection unless your engine is built up at least a little bit so it can handle the extra power.


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Re: @nitrous in a GTS@ [Re: hombredelassrtas] #328688 Nov 17, 10:56am Nov 17, 10:56am
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Originally Posted by hombredelassrtas
saw the same episode, jsut hooked into the intake. also seen propane used int he same way on a desel


WHOA Deisal cars use propane as a propellant I never heard of that, sound funny like their having a cook out for there engine. rofl rofl rofl

Re: @nitrous in a GTS@ [Re: importcarbabe] #328689 Nov 17, 11:03am Nov 17, 11:03am
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my dads propane company has done converstions for cars so that they run off propane. Normally trucks so you can have another gas tank in the bed. Burns clean jsut aliuttle pricy.

Re: @nitrous in a GTS@ [Re: hombredelassrtas] #328690 Nov 17, 11:08am Nov 17, 11:08am
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nitrous is illegal and only for off-road use...everywhere.


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yoru such a clown, i wish you lived in nyc, i would love to just give you the beating that youve probably never gotten in your life.
Re: @nitrous in a GTS@ [Re: importcarbabe] #328691 Nov 17, 11:22am Nov 17, 11:22am
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Originally Posted by importcarbabe
well I know for a fact in minnesota having nitrous is not illegal, cause I got caught driving DAS and they searched my car and the cop found the nitrouse hooked up in the trunk but didnt give me a ticket or anything for it. The only thing he asked about it was if I used it to try to get away from him, I would of but unfortuanley I had all the switches for it disconnected for it at that time, but the bottle was full and Open.
Originally Posted by ct
nitrous is illegal and only for off-road use...everywhere.
Apparently it isnt in Minnesota.

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Originally Posted by importcarbabe
Originally Posted by importcarbabe
well I know for a fact in minnesota having nitrous is not illegal, cause I got caught driving DAS and they searched my car and the cop found the nitrouse hooked up in the trunk but didnt give me a ticket or anything for it. The only thing he asked about it was if I used it to try to get away from him, I would of but unfortuanley I had all the switches for it disconnected for it at that time, but the bottle was full and Open.
Originally Posted by ct
nitrous is illegal and only for off-road use...everywhere.
Apparently it isnt in Minnesota.


really? any proof? this interesting...


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yoru such a clown, i wish you lived in nyc, i would love to just give you the beating that youve probably never gotten in your life.
Re: @nitrous in a GTS@ [Re: ct] #328693 Nov 17, 11:29am Nov 17, 11:29am
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Well I still have all 6 tickets from that night of over a year ago and it doesnt say anyting about nitrous.


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Re: @nitrous in a GTS@ [Re: importcarbabe] #328694 Nov 17, 11:30am Nov 17, 11:30am
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Originally Posted by importcarbabe
Well I still have all 6 tickets from that night of over a year ago and it doesnt say anyting about nitrous.


that doesn't mean that they are leagal. it just means the cop was nice or ignorrant...lol rofl


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yoru such a clown, i wish you lived in nyc, i would love to just give you the beating that youve probably never gotten in your life.
Re: @nitrous in a GTS@ [Re: ct] #328695 Nov 17, 11:32am Nov 17, 11:32am
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oh trust me he wanst a nice piggy he hit me with everything he could, that is why i got 6 tickets, he said He would of threw my ass in jail if he could of proved that i was runnin from him but he couldnt so ha.


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Re: @nitrous in a GTS@ [Re: ct] #328696 Nov 17, 11:33am Nov 17, 11:33am
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i think legal to have if on the way to a race track and is never legal tp use on public rd -but waht system should i get???????????


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Re: @nitrous in a GTS@ [Re: importcarbabe] #328697 Nov 17, 11:33am Nov 17, 11:33am
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then he was ignorant...surprise surprise...i got pulled over for a TRD exhaust which is 50-state legal. cops don't kow the indricacies of the law. just the general staements...


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yoru such a clown, i wish you lived in nyc, i would love to just give you the beating that youve probably never gotten in your life.
Re: @nitrous in a GTS@ [Re: celicadragon] #328698 Nov 17, 11:35am Nov 17, 11:35am
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I would go with NOS cause I am old school like that, but ZEX makes Awsome kits that are really advanced.


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Re: @nitrous in a GTS@ [Re: ct] #328699 Nov 17, 11:38am Nov 17, 11:38am
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Originally Posted by ct
then he was ignorant...surprise surprise...i got pulled over for a trd exhaust which is 50-state legal. cops don't kow the indricacies of the law. just the general staements...
Sure maybe but if Nitrous is so Blatenly illeagal like everyone says it is then I think he would of given me a ticket for it. I am not defending that it is leagal or not I am just saying in my own experience that I was never given a Citation for it. And I am not lying about my story. thumbsup

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Originally Posted by importcarbabe
Originally Posted by ct
then he was ignorant...surprise surprise...i got pulled over for a trd exhaust which is 50-state legal. cops don't kow the indricacies of the law. just the general staements...
Sure maybe but if Nitrous is so Blatenly illeagal like everyone says it is then I think he would of given me a ticket for it. I am not defending that it is leagal or not I am just saying in my own experience that I was never given a Citation for it. And I am not lying about my story. thumbsup


no, you were saying it was legal in your state. which i questioned...the validity of your story is of none of my interest


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yoru such a clown, i wish you lived in nyc, i would love to just give you the beating that youve probably never gotten in your life.
Re: @nitrous in a GTS@ [Re: ct] #328701 Nov 17, 11:47am Nov 17, 11:47am
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^^^I say it most likely leagal in minnesota becuase if my experience. Cause seriously if a cop could give a ticket for nitrouse i am sure he would of.


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Re: @nitrous in a GTS@ [Re: importcarbabe] #328702 Nov 17, 11:54am Nov 17, 11:54am
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Originally Posted by importcarbabe
^^^I say it most likely leagal in minnesota becuase if my experience. Cause seriously if a cop could give a ticket for nitrouse i am sure he would of.


so i should get that from this series of quotes???:

Originally posted by ct:
nitrous is illegal and only for off-road use...everywhere.

Originally posted by importcarbabe:
Apparently it isnt in Minnesota.


the cop will only give you a ticket for laws he knows or half-knows. if he doesn't even know about N20 how can he ticket you for that?


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yoru such a clown, i wish you lived in nyc, i would love to just give you the beating that youve probably never gotten in your life.
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Well he know what it was cause he asked me if i used it.


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Re: @nitrous in a GTS@ [Re: importcarbabe] #328704 Nov 17, 11:59am Nov 17, 11:59am
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Originally Posted by importcarbabe
Well he know what it was cause he asked me if i used it.


but does he know it's not legal? anyway, my point has come through, and unless you can come up with a guidline in minnesota air/ car modification law...this thread is moot. thumbsdown


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Re: @nitrous in a GTS@ [Re: importcarbabe] #328705 Nov 17, 12:35pm Nov 17, 12:35pm
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thank you importbabe for actually trying to answer my original question that turned into whether nitrous is legal but for everyone else i really would like to know what your opinions are of a good n2o kit for our cars specifically a gts


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Re: @nitrous in a GTS@ [Re: celicadragon] #328707 Nov 17, 12:39pm Nov 17, 12:39pm
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Originally Posted by celicadragon
thank you importbabe for actually trying to answer my original question that turned into whether nitrous is legal but for everyone else i really would like to know what your opinions are of a good n2o kit for our cars specifically a gts
Your welcome, i dont know what crawled up that other guys ass and died.

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Re: @nitrous in a GTS@ [Re: celicadragon] #328709 Nov 17, 2:02pm Nov 17, 2:02pm
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zex seems like the best option then i guess if no one has anything bad to say about it then thats my choice n20 here i come


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Re: @nitrous in a GTS@ [Re: importcarbabe] #328710 Nov 17, 2:02pm Nov 17, 2:02pm
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Originally Posted by importcarbabe
Originally Posted by celicadragon
thank you importbabe for actually trying to answer my original question that turned into whether nitrous is legal but for everyone else i really would like to know what your opinions are of a good n2o kit for our cars specifically a gts
Your welcome, i dont know what crawled up that other guys ass and died.


i can't question what other people say? i was just trying to find out what was what. please display facts and leave personal opinions out of it. if you want to take it to that level i will.


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yoru such a clown, i wish you lived in nyc, i would love to just give you the beating that youve probably never gotten in your life.
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Re: @nitrous in a GTS@ [Re: celicadragon] #328712 Nov 17, 2:27pm Nov 17, 2:27pm
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Originally Posted by celicadragon
now now


well i plainly only asked for facts and not assuptions. then when i questioned it she got salty...lol rofl


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oh well, what do you think a good n2o system is???


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Originally Posted by celicadragon
oh well, what do you think a good n2o system is???


my first advice is not to go nitrous to begin with. if you want power go with something conitious like s/c or turbo...i dunno about other places but it costs 20 bucks just to refill one bottle here in cali.

but in my opinion if it was nitrous any system would do (NOS, Zex, Venom, etc...). get a wet set up with WOT switch and not some switch on your steering wheel or console.


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yoru such a clown, i wish you lived in nyc, i would love to just give you the beating that youve probably never gotten in your life.
Re: @nitrous in a GTS@ [Re: ct] #328715 Nov 17, 2:40pm Nov 17, 2:40pm
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here is a dyno of a auto gts with i/e with 50/75 shot.

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Originally posted by SKOOF:
yoru such a clown, i wish you lived in nyc, i would love to just give you the beating that youve probably never gotten in your life.
Re: @nitrous in a GTS@ [Re: ct] #328716 Nov 17, 2:49pm Nov 17, 2:49pm
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the guy who dynoed had AEM CAI, Greddy EVO Exhaust, NX (0, 50,75 Shot) @ 212.9 whp 216.1 tq...with a turbo you can reach the same numbers @ 6psi and you don't have to fill up the bottle all the time. thumbsup


Originally posted by SKOOF:
yoru such a clown, i wish you lived in nyc, i would love to just give you the beating that youve probably never gotten in your life.
Re: @nitrous in a GTS@ [Re: ct] #328717 Nov 17, 3:22pm Nov 17, 3:22pm
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wet system injects it into the CAI right next the throttle body. Zex is very good because of its built in control box with constantly monitors the a/f to make sure everything is running sweet. you can expect a good 20second of use out of a 10lb bottle. You want purge because it looks cool and helps the system. Remote bottle opener so you don't have to goto the trunk. Gauges and crap adds up to around 800$, not bad for 50-75hp of fun.

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Originally Posted by ct
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thank you importbabe for actually trying to answer my original question that turned into whether nitrous is legal but for everyone else i really would like to know what your opinions are of a good n2o kit for our cars specifically a gts
Your welcome, i dont know what crawled up that other guys ass and died.


i can't question what other people say? i was just trying to find out what was what. please display facts and leave personal opinions out of it. if you want to take it to that level i will.


Unless you can also prove that it is illegal in MN to posses nitrous in car than you are also wrong. so as it stands right now nobody is right or wrong. I was just posting my experience which is not a opinion but is a fact that I did not get a ticket for possesing something you say is illegal.

Re: @nitrous in a GTS@ [Re: importcarbabe] #328719 Nov 17, 4:03pm Nov 17, 4:03pm
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Originally Posted by importcarbabe
Originally Posted by ct
Originally Posted by importcarbabe
Originally Posted by celicadragon
thank you importbabe for actually trying to answer my original question that turned into whether nitrous is legal but for everyone else i really would like to know what your opinions are of a good n2o kit for our cars specifically a gts
Your welcome, i dont know what crawled up that other guys ass and died.


i can't question what other people say? i was just trying to find out what was what. please display facts and leave personal opinions out of it. if you want to take it to that level i will.


Unless you can also prove that it is illegal in MN to posses nitrous in car than you are also wrong. so as it stands right now nobody is right or wrong. I was just posting my experience which is not a opinion but is a fact that I did not get a ticket for possesing something you say is illegal.


BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA...you're in minnesota. you're suppposed to know. am I supposed to do that research for you? there have been numerous articles that using nitrous oxide was only for off-road use, in magazine and even the liability section in some of the nitrous packages!

i was questioning you STATING that it was indeed legal in minnesota and not wether or not some cop gave you a ticket or not. that is irrelevant...would you want me to post your quote or can you find it yourself? rofl


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yoru such a clown, i wish you lived in nyc, i would love to just give you the beating that youve probably never gotten in your life.
Re: @nitrous in a GTS@ [Re: importcarbabe] #328720 Nov 17, 6:02pm Nov 17, 6:02pm
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Back to the question of which Kit you should get.

It depends on how much of the operation you want to do yourself and how safe you want it to be.

From research that I have done, a 50 shot is a very safe amount to run on any engine. Also, many peoplehave jumped up to 75 without any major safe guards like timing retard and stronger internals.

Wet systems are nice because they spit extra fuel in with the N2O to keep the Air-Fuel mixture at the proper and optimal levels.

If you have a lot of self control then I think a 50 shot NOS system should be fine as a begining stage. But, if you think you might want to hold that little button down for longer than recommended then get a system that controls the spray for you.

Many companies make systems that only allow the N2O to be released at certain RPM's and throttle positions. Also, if you ever get the hunger for more, you can get Timing retard units that alters the firing of the spark plugs to help eliminate detonation.

Really it is what kind of money and gains you are looking for. N2O is a very safe and effective way for increasing horsepower. Alot of people blow cars up because they don't research what they are about to attempt, they also get greedy and run bigger jets than what is safe from their setup. Just do some homework and see what is best for you. I would suggest a NOS 50 shot system either wet or if you want to run a dry system then do a small amount of retarding to your timing because you have a lot of compression as is. Just be smart and you should be fine.


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Re: @nitrous in a GTS@ [Re: Seanscn] #328721 Nov 17, 7:15pm Nov 17, 7:15pm
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An auto gts with an Intake and exhaust gets 154 horsepower? Is that to the wheels? Makes you question dynos and peak horspower numbers since the auto gt is WAY below that in horsepower and suppose to keep up or even beat the auto gts.


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Re: @nitrous in a GTS@ [Re: SLVCELI] #328722 Nov 17, 7:29pm Nov 17, 7:29pm
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Originally Posted by SLVCELI

An auto gts with an intake and exhaust gets 154 horsepower? Is that to the wheels? Makes you question dynos and peak horspower numbers since the auto gt is WAY below that in horsepower and suppose to keep up or even beat the auto gts.


OMG...tell me you're joking.
first of all the whole auto Gt and auto GTS myth has been debunked.there was a race held by CaliGTS and the auto GT lost...BAD. a auto GT stock can run 17.1, a stock auto gts has run 16.9 (check msn.com)
second-it's a 2ZZ engine. it would react the same way any 2zz would react.gearing is why the auto gts can supposedly lose to the auto gt.
third-don't listen to everything you hear. guys over at N.C. are pure performance guys and frown at anything auto...again this myth has already been debunked.


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yoru such a clown, i wish you lived in nyc, i would love to just give you the beating that youve probably never gotten in your life.
Re: @nitrous in a GTS@ [Re: ct] #328723 Nov 17, 7:38pm Nov 17, 7:38pm
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my cuzins superwhite celi kaminari kit carbon fiber Hood some other stuff and runs 50shot , recently hes bugging me to go race with him he probably filled it up his first time because its al ready and he just never filled it before... il prob get smoked

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