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Long term reliability rankings... #323635 Nov 11, 3:02am Nov 11, 3:02am
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Long term reliability rankings...
Long term reliability rankings...

From http://www.JDPower.com

1. Chevrolet Malibu
2. Lexus RX 330
3. Lexus LX 470
4. Toyota 4Runner
5. Chevrolet Tahoe
6. Lexus GS Sedan
7. Honda S2000
8. GMC Sierra 2500HD/3500
9. Buick Century
10. Lexus LS 430
11. Toyota Avalon
12. Honda Odyssey
13. Honda CR-V
14. Ford Ranger
15. Ford Ranger extended cab
16. Lincoln Town Car
17. Mercury Grand Marquis
18. Ford F-150 Light Duty
19. Buick Regal
20. Toyota Highlander
21. Toyota Corolla
22. Ford E-Series
23. Honda Accord Coupe
24. Honda Accord Sedan
25. Ford F-150 Light Duty ext. cab
26. Ford F-150 Supercrew
27. Ford Crown Victoria
28. Chrysler Concorde
29. Nissan Altima
30. Acura RSX
31. Lexus ES 330
32. Mazda Miata
33. Porsche 911
34. Chevrolet Express
35. GMC Yukon
36. GMC Yukon XL
37. Chevrolet Suburban
38. Toyota Prius
39. Oldsmobile Silhouette
40. Buick Lesabre
41. Toyota Sienna
42. Chevrolet Corvette
43. Toyota Sequoia
44. Toyota RAV4
45. Cadillac DeVille
46. GMC Sonoma extended cab
47. GMC Sonoma
48. Buick Park Avenue
49. Dodge Caravan
50. Pontiac Montana
51. Toyota Tundra
52. Dodge Grand Caravan
53. Ford Excursion
54. Toyota Camry
55. Toyota Camry Solara
56. Chevrolet Impala
57. Mercury Sable
58. Chevrolet Silverado 1500/2500
59. Chevrolet Silverado 1500/2500 ext. cab
60. Acura RL
61. GMC Sierra 1500/2500
62. GMC Sierra 1500/2500 ext. cab
63. Chevrolet S-10 Pickup
64. Chevrolet S-10 Pickup extended cab
65. Acura TL
66. Mazda MPV
67. Dodge Intrepid
68. Chevrolet Tracker 2-door
69. Chevrolet Tracker 4-door
70. Porsche Boxster
71. Mercedes-Benz SLK-Class
72. Audi TT
73. Hyundai Sonata
74. Ford Mustang
75. Ford Mustang convertible
76. Pontiac Grand Am Coupe
77. Pontiac Grand Am Sedan
78. Dodge Stratus Coupe
79. Ford Explorer Sport Trac
80. Dodge Ram Pickup 2500/3500
81. Chevrolet Monte Carlo
82. Subaru Forester
83. Toyota Celica
84. Ford Escape
85. Chrysler Town & Country
86. Dodge Ram Pickup 1500
87. Dodge Ram Pickup 1500 4-door
88. Honda Civic Coupe
89. Honda Civic Sedan
90. Cadillac Seville
91. Pontiac Bonneville
92. Pontiac Sunfire 2-dr
93. Pontiac Sunfire 4-dr
94. Chevrolet Silverado 2500HD/3500
95. BMW 5 Series Sedan
96. BMW 7 Series
97. Jaguar XJ
98. BMW X5
99. Dodge Durango
100. Mercedes-Benz E-Class
101. Lincoln Navigator
102. Pontiac Grand Prix Coupe
103. Pontiac Grand Prix Sedan
104. Audi A4/S4
105. Lincoln LS
106. Toyota Tacoma
107. Mazda Tribute
108. Nissan Frontier
109. Nissan Frontier 4-door
110. Nissan Frontier extended cab
111. Lexus IS 300/IS 300 SportCross
112. Dodge Dakota 4-door
113. Dodge Dakota extended cab
114. Mercury Mountaineer
115. Ford Expedition
116. Chevrolet Venture
117. Acura MDX
118. Audi A6
119. Chrysler PT Cruiser
120. Jeep Wrangler
121. Saturn LW Wagon
122. Chevrolet Cavalier Coupe
123. Chevrolet Cavalier Sedan
124. Subaru Outback Sport
125. Chrysler 300M
126. Subaru Legacy
127. Subaru Outback
128. Ford Taurus
129. Chevrolet Blazer
130. Ford F-250/F-350
131. Nissan Sentra
132. Saturn LS Sedan
133. Nissan Maxima
134. BMW 3 Series Convertible
135. BMW 3 Series Coupe
136. BMW 3 Series Sport Wagon
137. BMW 3 Series Sedan
138. Nissan Quest
139. Mazda 6
140. Volkswagen Passat
141. Saab 9-5 Sedan/Wagon
142. Mercedes-Benz S-Class
143. Saab 9-3 Sedan
144. Saab 9-3 Cpe/Conv
145. Jeep Grand Cherokee
146. Chrysler Sebring Sedan
147. Dodge Stratus Sedan
148. Chrysler Sebring Convertible
149. Ford Explorer
150. Ford Explorer Sport
151. Suzuki Vitara/GrandVitara
152. Chrysler SebringCpe
153. Oldsmobile Bravada
154. Nissan Pathfinder
155. Mazda B-Series
156. Pontiac Aztek (4x2)
157. Pontiac Aztek (4x4)
158. Volkswagen Jetta
159. Volkswagen Beetle
160. Oldsmobile Alero 2-door
161. Oldsmobile Alero 4-door
162. Hyundai Santa Fe
163. Mercedes-Benz CLK-Class
164. Jaguar S-Type
165. Mercedes-Benz M-Class
166. Hyundai Accent Coupe
167. Hyundai Accent Sedan
168. Hyundai XG350
169. Mercedes-Benz C-Class
170. Hyundai Tiburon
171. Kia Sorento
172. Volvo S80
173. Mitsubishi Galant
174. Volvo V70
175. Volvo C70
176. Kia Optima
177. Suzuki XL-7
178. Hyundai Elantra
179. Volvo S60
180. Dodge Neon
181. Ford Focus 2-door
182. Ford Focus 4-door
183. Volvo S40
184. Volvo V40
185. Audi allroad quattro
186. Subaru Impreza
187. Nissan Xterra
188. Kia Rio
189. Chevrolet Astro
190. Volkswagen GTI
191. Mitsubishi Eclipse
192. Volkswagen Golf
193. Isuzu Rodeo


LONG-TERM DEPENDABILITY
The vehicles below have no long-term dependability data.
-. Cadillac Escalade EXT
-. Honda Element
-. Lexus SC 430
-. Ford Thunderbird
-. Chevrolet Colorado
-. Lexus GX 470
-. Cadillac Escalade/Escalade ESV
-. Cadillac XLR
-. Land Rover Range Rover
-. Nissan 350Z
-. Mercury Monterey
-. Chrysler Crossfire
-. Acura TSX
-. Volvo XC70
-. Audi A8
-. Chrysler Pacifica
-. Infiniti I35
-. Buick Rendezvous
-. Ford Freestar
-. Honda Pilot
-. Pontiac Vibe
-. MINI Cooper
-. Nissan Murano
-. Infiniti FX-Series
-. Nissan Pathfinder Armada
-. Saturn VUE
-. Cadillac CTS
-. Nissan Titan
-. Volvo XC90
-. Mitsubishi Outlander
-. Buick Rainier
-. Chevrolet Avalanche
-. Lincoln Aviator
-. Suzuki Verona
-. Scion xB
-. GMC Envoy
-. Saturn ION
-. Toyota Matrix
-. Chevrolet TrailBlazer
-. Mercury Marauder
-. Mazda 3
-. Infiniti G35
-. HUMMER H2
-. Mercedes-Benz SL-Class
-. Jeep Liberty
-. Dodge SRT-4
-. Jaguar X-Type
-. Mitsubishi Endeavor
-. Mazda RX-8
-. Scion xA
-. Kia Spectra
-. Kia Sedona
-. Chevrolet Equinox
-. Chrysler 300Series
-. Subaru Baja
-. GMC Savana
-. Pontiac GTO
-. BMW Z4
-. GMC Canyon
-. BMW 6 Series
-. Kia Amanti
-. Land Rover Freelander
-. Mitsubishi Lancer/LancerSportback
-. Isuzu Ascender
-. Chevrolet Aveo
-. Suzuki Aerio/AerioSX


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Re: Long term reliability rankings... [Re: isaac] #323636 Nov 11, 3:05am Nov 11, 3:05am
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woot celica is 83

Re: Long term reliability rankings... [Re: Virgilson] #323637 Nov 11, 3:13am Nov 11, 3:13am
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Originally Posted by Virgilson
woot celica is 83


go celica go!! thumbsup thumbsup

Re: Long term reliability rankings... [Re: PnOy2nv] #323638 Nov 11, 3:47am Nov 11, 3:47am
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Re: Long term reliability rankings... [Re: 10celica10] #323639 Nov 11, 7:00am Nov 11, 7:00am
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i dont know if i trust that 83 or not... those fuckers dont like celicas anyway rofl

Re: Long term reliability rankings... [Re: 2003cbgts] #323640 Nov 11, 7:09am Nov 11, 7:09am
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OK - Chevy Malibu = #1 ?? confused
Puzzling, since I see about 1 per month around here. Maybe the 'long-term reliability' as defined includes those vehicles that remain unsold on the dealers lots, thus not breaking down and affecting the averages...? spineyes


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Re: Long term reliability rankings... [Re: jonnyess] #323641 Nov 11, 7:21am Nov 11, 7:21am
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^^^ maybe...what it is based on as far as I am to understnad it is problems reported to the dealer per 100 new cars...that is how things are tallied

Re: Long term reliability rankings... [Re: AZZKIKR] #323642 Nov 11, 7:22am Nov 11, 7:22am
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JD power may have us at 83, but consumer reports testing has us under its best buy list for like 3 years now...including buying a used one

Re: Long term reliability rankings... [Re: AZZKIKR] #323643 Nov 11, 7:29am Nov 11, 7:29am
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^^^ yup, consumer reports has nothing but praise for the celica. it gets almost the highest grade in about every catagory. and they had a celi on the cover. piss on jd power, we know whats up thumbsup

Re: Long term reliability rankings... [Re: 2003cbgts] #323644 Nov 11, 7:47am Nov 11, 7:47am
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And you know what brought down the reliability rating of the Celica, right? Those people who misshifted the car then had their mistake fixed for free under warranty. angry I remember the 00 Celica had lower marks on engine/tranny than the 01s, yet they were the exact same parts, except the late 00s and the 01s had stiffer shifter springs. thumbsdown

Re: Long term reliability rankings... [Re: Blue_Bomber] #323645 Nov 11, 7:57am Nov 11, 7:57am
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w00t! 30. Acura RSX rofl

Re: Long term reliability rankings... [Re: tgts2000] #323646 Nov 11, 9:12am Nov 11, 9:12am
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Originally Posted by tgts2000
w00t! 30. Acura RSX rofl

Yeah, Acura and Honda were smart by not covering RSX-S and S2K misshifts under warranty like Toyota did.

Re: Long term reliability rankings... [Re: Blue_Bomber] #323647 Nov 11, 9:16am Nov 11, 9:16am
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Originally Posted by Blue_Bomber
Originally Posted by tgts2000
w00t! 30. Acura RSX rofl

Yeah, Acura and Honda were smart by not covering RSX-S and S2K misshifts under warranty like Toyota did.


that's probably why toyota said "mother-fucker...we're losing a lot of money just claiming all these mis-shifts for people who can't drive...this is what we get for building a high revving engine...next time we'll make a car that has a camry engine in it..."...LOL rofl


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Re: Long term reliability rankings... [Re: Blue_Bomber] #323648 Nov 11, 9:19am Nov 11, 9:19am
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I know Consumer Reoprts prides itself on being completely independent and unbiased from the product manufacturers, accepting no advertising $$ to stay afloat.

Does JD Power work off the same premise? confused

If so...then alrighty then. then.


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Re: Long term reliability rankings... [Re: Blue_Bomber] #323649 Nov 11, 9:30am Nov 11, 9:30am
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Originally Posted by Blue_Bomber
Originally Posted by tgts2000
w00t! 30. Acura RSX rofl

Yeah, Acura and Honda were smart by not covering RSX-S and S2K misshifts under warranty like Toyota did.


i believe they do cover mis shifts tongue


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Re: Long term reliability rankings... [Re: QuickChick03gt] #323650 Nov 11, 9:59am Nov 11, 9:59am
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who gives a shit...I love my car...and I builtit for long term reliability according to the way I drive...it will be fine (knocks on wood)...the only problem I've had with mine is the DAMN tranny...the celica tranny is the weak link in our cars...

Re: Long term reliability rankings... [Re: AZZKIKR] #323651 Nov 11, 10:32am Nov 11, 10:32am
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there is no way a grand am should be higher than a celica my wife has a 2004 grand am gt and that thing is a piece of crap


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Re: Long term reliability rankings... [Re: celicadragon] #323652 Nov 11, 10:54am Nov 11, 10:54am
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Re: Long term reliability rankings... [Re: celicadragon] #323653 Nov 11, 10:55am Nov 11, 10:55am
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Do you think that the reason why the celica is #83 is due to its problematic short throw shifter, and when people accidentally bang the shifter into the wrong gear slot because they're narrow?? I think that might be a source.


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Re: Long term reliability rankings... [Re: jyboygenius] #323654 Nov 11, 11:04am Nov 11, 11:04am
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I would tend to believe J. D. Power is less of a reliable source of information compared to Consumer Reports, as in:

Long Term Reliability Rankings

1. Consumer Reports
2. J. D. Power


Long-Term Dependability

1. Consumer Reports
2. J. D. Power


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Re: Long term reliability rankings... [Re: tgts2000] #323656 Nov 11, 4:21pm Nov 11, 4:21pm
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Originally Posted by tgts2000
w00t! 30. Acura RSX rofl
we will see about that Tim when I come next to you in a stop light. LOL

Re: Long term reliability rankings... [Re: QuickChick03gt] #323657 Nov 11, 6:31pm Nov 11, 6:31pm
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Originally Posted by QuickChick03gt
Originally Posted by Blue_Bomber
Originally Posted by tgts2000
w00t! 30. Acura RSX rofl

Yeah, Acura and Honda were smart by not covering RSX-S and S2K misshifts under warranty like Toyota did.


i believe they do cover mis shifts tongue
Yeah, but nowhere near as much as Toyota. Some guy is on his 5th GT engine under warranty. wtf And Honda/Acura didn't change the shifter springs, then change the shifter pattern, then lower the rev limiter, all in hopes of keeping people from misshifting again (didn't work, either rolleyes ).

Re: Long term reliability rankings... [Re: Blue_Bomber] #323658 Nov 11, 6:47pm Nov 11, 6:47pm
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bullshit 83 is


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